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Bonn1997
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10/23/2005  10:25 PM
Now that we've seen all of them play a little against NBA PF/Cs, compare these players.

Andrew Bogut
Channing Frye
Charlie Villanueva
Hakim Warrick
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Frye and Villanueva have had great preseasons IMO. Villanueva's gotten more PT and been outstanding in all aspects of the game other than rebounding. Warrick's had some great moments and looked decent overall. Bogut's looked okay but unimpressive. It's obviously early but not too early to be excited about Frye and Villanueva.
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Bonn1997
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10/23/2005  11:02 PM
Who would you have drafted first: Villanueva or Frye?
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10/23/2005  11:11 PM
it'll be a lot easier to decide once we see them play in the regular season. I still would've taken Bogut. He is going to be very good once the season starts
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10/23/2005  11:21 PM
who has more potential, i would think villanueva, but hey, he can easily be a tim thomas. Im actually happy with frye
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10/24/2005  12:04 AM
Posted by mintyfreshness33:

who has more potential, i would think villanueva, but hey, he can easily be a tim thomas. Im actually happy with frye
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Charlie was a bigger gamble (i.e., higher upside and higher downside). I'm quite happy with Frye but I'd be happy with Charlie too. Man, it would have been nice to have both of them!
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10/24/2005  12:05 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

it'll be a lot easier to decide once we see them play in the regular season. I still would've taken Bogut. He is going to be very good once the season starts
He's getting a lot of PT in the preseason. The Bucks will need huge improvement from him if they don't want this year to be a repeat of last year. I think he has the right build to be a much better rebounder than he's been so far in the preseason.
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10/24/2005  7:24 AM
I wouldnt call Warrick a bigman
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10/24/2005  7:36 AM
Frye is the one Zeke picked, so I will stay with him...
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10/24/2005  7:41 AM
if anyone has a link for all rookie preseason stats could you please post it?
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10/24/2005  12:39 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Who would you have drafted first: Villanueva or Frye?

Bogut.
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10/24/2005  12:43 PM
Posted by fishmike:

I wouldnt call Warrick a bigman


You still see him as a small foward Shawn Marion type who can switch to power foward on some occasions?
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10/24/2005  12:50 PM
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Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by fishmike:

I wouldnt call Warrick a bigman


You still see him as a small foward Shawn Marion type who can switch to power foward on some occasions?


That's what I see Warrick as. I think he can play PF next to the right center. I don't know if Pau Gasol is that center.

Honestly, right now, other than Bogut, I would have taken Frye. I think he's going to be very good. I don't think it's a stretch to say that Frye is actually ahead of Bogut at this point either.

Worth noting that Diogu is not only pretty seriously injured, but when he was healthy the GSW coach was complaining that he couldn't follow any plays. Diogu himself said he'd never run plays in college and admitted to being lost. Sometimes getting a player who is used to learning a system is a good thing and Frye definitely had that experience with Lute Olsen.

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10/24/2005  12:55 PM
right now I would've taken Frye over anyone and maybe even over Bogut! Man, Isiah is the man!!
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10/24/2005  12:55 PM
If Butler was in the draft he woulda got drafted before Bogut.
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10/24/2005  1:03 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Worth noting that Diogu is not only pretty seriously injured, but when he was healthy the GSW coach was complaining that he couldn't follow any plays. Diogu himself said he'd never run plays in college and admitted to being lost. Sometimes getting a player who is used to learning a system is a good thing and Frye definitely had that experience with Lute Olsen.

i totally missed that. what the heck happened to ike?
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10/24/2005  1:04 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

right now I would've taken Frye over anyone and maybe even over Bogut! Man, Isiah is the man!!

i'm thrilled with frye too but i still think bogut's going to turn inito a great center. i don't think a slow initial adjustment changes that.
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10/24/2005  1:13 PM
Frye will be the best out of that group..
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10/24/2005  1:17 PM
I could see Bogut putting up solid numbers like 15/9/2 for a center but I think Frye is more polished offensively and more athletic and can average 19pts, 8rebs & 1.7blks one day. Considering Frye was the 8th pick and Bogut 1st thats pretty damn good! heck even if Bogut puts up 18/10/2 I'll still be happy!
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10/24/2005  1:19 PM
guns i'm getting a kick out of your reaction to frye now considering what you put yourself through over him all summer
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