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boomann
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10/20/2005  4:14 PM
PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME GP MPG PTS FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT%
1 Charlie Villanueva 2 31.0 16.0 6.0-13.0 .462 1.0-2.5 .400 3.0-5.5 .545
2 Hakim Warrick , MEM 3 27.3 14.0 5.0-10.0 .500 .0-.0 .000 4.0-5.7 .706
3 Danny Granger , IND 3 30.7 13.3 4.3-10.7 .406 .7-2.0 .333 4.0-5.7 .706
4 Rashad McCants , MIN 4 23.2 12.5 4.5-11.0 .409 1.5-3.0 .500 2.0-2.2 .889
5 Channing Frye , NYK 3 19.3 12.0 5.0-9.7 .517 .0-.0 .000 2.0-2.7 .750
5 Sergei Monia , POR 1 24.0 12.0 5.0-9.0 .556 2.0-4.0 .500 .0-2.0 .000
7 Nate Robinson , NYK 3 22.3 11.7 3.3-8.3 .400 .0-.7 .000 5.0-6.3 .789
8 David Lee , NYK 3 24.3 11.3 4.0-9.0 .444 .0-.0 .000 3.3-7.0 .476
9 Luther Head , HOU 4 23.0 11.0 3.8-8.0 .469 2.0-4.0 .500 1.5-1.8 .857
10 Raymond Felton , 4 21.8 10.5 3.8-7.5 .500 2.0-4.2 .471 1.0-1.5 .667


All three of our rooks made it into the top ten through the first games of the preseason. I know it's just training camp but this has to be a good thing for their confidence going into the season. I think we'll see them get better and better as the season progresses And who said Charlie V was going to be a bust.
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10/20/2005  4:17 PM
Not sure anyone said that CV would be a bust, only that he was picked WAY to high
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10/20/2005  4:22 PM
CV is definitely top 10 talent but everyone thought he'd be a bust since he showed traces of TT in college but he was great in pre-draft workouts and continues to be
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10/20/2005  4:23 PM
you notice the top 3 players all avg'd alot more min's than our roks?
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10/20/2005  4:45 PM
When was the last time Calhoun had a bust?
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10/20/2005  4:51 PM
khalid el amin?
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10/20/2005  4:54 PM
How many block shots has CV been getting? As he gets into better and better shape and gets stronger, he can become a force on the help side defense. Between him and Bosh, no one will get a clear path to the hole. His man to man d needs work i'm sure. Who has a higher ceiling - CV or FRYE?
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10/20/2005  5:18 PM
El-Amin was never a pro caliber player. He was drafted based on his championship run and not talent. That was the scouts fault. CT fans had little expectations for the guy. He was too fat.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 10-20-2005 5:19 PM]
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Posted by SkyWalker:

How many block shots has CV been getting? As he gets into better and better shape and gets stronger, he can become a force on the help side defense. Between him and Bosh, no one will get a clear path to the hole. His man to man d needs work i'm sure. Who has a higher ceiling - CV or FRYE?

Don't forget Warrick

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10/20/2005  5:21 PM
Things look even better if you adjust for minutes played. Here's the ppg for the rooks listed above, per 40 minutes:

1. Frye 24.8
2. McCants 21.6
3. Robinson 21.0
4. Villanueva 20.6
5. Warrick 20.5
6. Monia 20.0
7. Felton 19.3
8. Head 19.1
9. Lee 18.6
10. Granger 17.3
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10/20/2005  5:25 PM
Frye will be the better player but Charlie V will have the better highlights because he's good with the rock. I'm looking for all three of them to be on one of the two all rookie teams.
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10/20/2005  7:11 PM
I never said it, but I thought CV would be a bust. And I like him (mainly because he has Alopecia -- the no hair thing -- like my nephew). Clearly very talented, just didn't seem tough enough or competitive enough to me. So I thought he was going to flop. He may still, but I'm rooting for him.
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10/20/2005  7:12 PM
And pretty cool to see Frye leading the rooks in PPM. Thanks for posting that TVerve. Where's Bogut, btw?
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10/20/2005  7:22 PM
Read today that Bogut will likely come off the bench and that Gadzuric will start...
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10/20/2005  7:26 PM
Frye could someday in the future average something close to that because it looks like he can score so easily. The best thing is that he actually is also good on defense and has been effective rebounding compared to his minutes. He has to work on boxing out, though...
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10/20/2005  7:51 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

CV is definitely top 10 talent but everyone thought he'd be a bust since he showed traces of TT in college but he was great in pre-draft workouts and continues to be


They need to do a DNA screen to see if he has any genetic "Gazy" coding!
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10/20/2005  7:54 PM
Posted by tomverve:

Things look even better if you adjust for minutes played. Here's the ppg for the rooks listed above, per 40 minutes:

1. Frye 24.8
2. McCants 21.6
3. Robinson 21.0
4. Villanueva 20.6
5. Warrick 20.5
6. Monia 20.0
7. Felton 19.3
8. Head 19.1
9. Lee 18.6
10. Granger 17.3


that's pretty cool. I'll take my chances with Frye.
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10/20/2005  8:07 PM
Brooklyn!!!

I told you Charlie V was the man!!!!
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10/20/2005  10:53 PM
Our rooks look good on those lists, now they've got to keep their production up to earn PT from LB. Look for all of them to continue to put effort on D and rebounds (the Larry Brown formula for players to earn minutes).

That draft is looking to pay off nicely for us if this pace keeps up.
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10/21/2005  12:04 PM
where's Bogut on that list?
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