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oohah
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8/26/2005  10:28 AM
Steve Blake is an unathletic, below average point guard who quite frankly I am surprised has stuck in the league so far. I want no part of him on the knicks! Why are they even mentioning his name? There is no place for him here!

Gerald Wallace does not seem to be on our radar. Why not? It is almost like there is a Tim Thomas thing going on with him because he at times looks like the next big thing, but nobody seem to want him like they 'should'.

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[Edited by - oohah on 08-26-2005 10:33 AM]
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8/26/2005  10:38 AM
Consider the source of this rumor...Berman...end of story!
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8/26/2005  10:56 AM
Gerald Wallace is 10x better as a defender as TT.
He just turned 23.
He's athletic.
He plays hard.
TT won't be here next yr (i hope).
Like the idea of having two long atheletic defenders in Wallace and Ariza.
He's cheap.

Isiah needs to sign him.
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8/26/2005  11:11 AM
Gerald Wallace for the LLE! I would love that!
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8/26/2005  11:19 AM
Posted by OAK:

Gerald Wallace is 10x better as a defender as TT.
He just turned 23.
He's athletic.
He plays hard.
TT won't be here next yr (i hope).
Like the idea of having two long atheletic defenders in Wallace and Ariza.
He's cheap.

Isiah needs to sign him.
I'm sure he's a RFA (restricted free agent) - bobcats want him to get a low offer so they can match. That's why he's not locked up. Denver should sign him for their 4.5 million exception.
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8/26/2005  11:37 AM
actually blake is not a bad player, pretty quick, can shoot the three, and defend pretty well. I think he is ok..

gerald wallce and ariza are redundant.... but that is just me..
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8/26/2005  11:52 AM
I am not sure why Isiah gave JJ the full mid-level and didn't save any of that money I wish there was some way to get Gerald I think he is a nice young player that could be a very good defensive stopper, and he needs to work on is his jump shot

Charlotte will end up matching the offer, its too bad though, I would move someone to get him
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8/26/2005  12:14 PM
Posted by MS:

I am not sure why Isiah gave JJ the full mid-level and didn't save any of that money I wish there was some way to get Gerald I think he is a nice young player that could be a very good defensive stopper, and he needs to work on is his jump shot

Charlotte will end up matching the offer, its too bad though, I would move someone to get him

sounds like ariza... just needs to work on his jump shot. plus Q can slide to the 3... We also have Lee who can play 3 and TT.
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8/26/2005  12:18 PM
i think wallace is the kind of player you bring in when you want to give a young guy a bigger role and hope he becomes a stud. we're more in the market for a young guy to develop over the next season or two and then see if they're ready to take over after TT/ houston/ penny/ mo/ rose whoever down the road.

we can't offer a guy like wallace a starting role like i'm pretty sure he wants, we're really in the market for bench players with potential to be somehting more if they work out

[Edited by - Masterplan on 08-26-2005 12:20 PM]
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8/26/2005  12:45 PM
I'm suprised somebody hasn't tried to sign him yet....he would look good on a contender.

I don't care how many people the Knicks have at the 3 Gerald Wallace is a huge talent. He does alot of things well except shoot. He plays great defense too. All the good teams can go 3 deep so why not the Knicks?
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8/26/2005  12:59 PM
Posted by MS:

I am not sure why Isiah gave JJ the full mid-level and didn't save any of that money I wish there was some way to get Gerald I think he is a nice young player that could be a very good defensive stopper, and he needs to work on is his jump shot

Charlotte will end up matching the offer, its too bad though, I would move someone to get him
He'd have to have given JJ around $3 mil per in order for it to really make a difference because otherwise, the LLE would be larger than the amount left over from the MLE. The team already has 15 players. I wouldn't be surprised if no one is added anyway.


[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-26-2005 1:00 PM]
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8/26/2005  1:02 PM
we have no shot at Gerald Wallace because Isiah wasted the MLE on JJ...stop begging for players that we have no shot at...we're now looking at players like Steve Blake since the only thing we have left is the LLE.
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8/26/2005  1:13 PM
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8/26/2005  2:53 PM
actually blake is not a bad player, pretty quick, can shoot the three, and defend pretty well. I think he is ok..

For a fourth string guard he is okay.
we can't offer a guy like wallace a starting role like i'm pretty sure he wants, we're really in the market for bench players with potential to be somehting more if they work out

sounds like ariza... just needs to work on his jump shot. plus Q can slide to the 3... We also have Lee who can play 3 and TT.

Does someone on the Knicks have Wallace's position locked up? I like Ariza alot, but he is a YOUNG second-year player, and screw it, put him at SG if you have to. We can find Wallace minutes if he plays here.
Charlotte will end up matching the offer, its too bad though, I would move someone to get him

I don't think we'll get him either.
i think wallace is the kind of player you bring in when you want to give a young guy a bigger role and hope he becomes a stud. we're more in the market for a young guy to develop over the next season or two and then see if they're ready to take over after TT/ houston/ penny/ mo/ rose whoever down the road.

I am not sure what the difference is between developing a guy to become a stud or developing a guy to take over for TT/ houston/ penny/ mo/. In any case, developing players seems to be exactly what we are doing.
we have no shot at Gerald Wallace because Isiah wasted the MLE on JJ...stop begging for players that we have no shot at...

Who should we be begging for?
we're now looking at players like Steve Blake since the only thing we have left is the LLE.

UGH! I would have rather spent the money on Diop.

oohah

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8/26/2005  3:05 PM
Posted by TMS:

we have no shot at Gerald Wallace because Isiah wasted the MLE on JJ...stop begging for players that we have no shot at...we're now looking at players like Steve Blake since the only thing we have left is the LLE.
What teams got clearly better players with the MLE?
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8/26/2005  3:11 PM
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i think wallace is the kind of player you bring in when you want to give a young guy a bigger role and hope he becomes a stud. we're more in the market for a young guy to develop over the next season or two and then see if they're ready to take over after TT/ houston/ penny/ mo/ rose whoever down the road.
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I am not sure what the difference is between developing a guy to become a stud or developing a guy to take over for TT/ houston/ penny/ mo/. In any case, developing players seems to be exactly what we are doing.

it's the difference between signing vlad radmanovic and james jones. vlad wants to start, and has shown he can play. you sign him and rely on him to produce. you're not developing him, you're giving him a central role. james jones could be a starter down the road. until then, you're signing a young guy to a bench role and hoping he gives you something more with time. gerald wallace is closer to vlad than that JJ.
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8/26/2005  7:39 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by TMS:

we have no shot at Gerald Wallace because Isiah wasted the MLE on JJ...stop begging for players that we have no shot at...we're now looking at players like Steve Blake since the only thing we have left is the LLE.
What teams got clearly better players with the MLE?

Mike Finley is looking to sign a MLE type deal w/MIA according to the latest reports...then there's guys like Stromile Swift, Brevin Knight, Derek Anderson, Donyell Marshall, Eddie Griffin, Chris Duhon, Kareem Rush, Sarunas Jasikevicius, Zeljko Rebraca, Raja Bell, Antonio Daniels & others that signed for less than or equal to the MLE in terms of annual dollars this offseason...some signed for significantly less in fact...who got the better value on the dollar? those teams or the Knicks?

spare me your reasoning to explain away this one...Isiah overpaid bigtime for Jerome James & everyone knows it...let me guess, now you're gonna try & reason your way out of this by giving me the shpiel about none of these guys being "clearly" better than Jerome James that would make Isiah's decision to use the full MLE to sign him as a "clearly" bad decision...let me just tell you right now, there's nothing you can say to me that will justify giving a career 5 & 3 player who's 29 years old w/a career long reputation for being lazy & an underachiever a 5 year $30 million dollar contract...i said it the day the news broke & i'll say it now...Jerome James is another in the LONG list of overpaid, marginally talented players that has been brought in here since the days of Dave Checketts & Ernie Grunfeld.


[Edited by - TMS on 08-26-2005 7:42 PM]
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8/26/2005  9:10 PM
how about ALL the players i listed are better than Jerome James...if you don't have a response or defense, don't waste my time & ask me the question to begin with...you're telling me Donyell Marshall, Eddie Griffin or Zeljko Rebraca wouldn't have been better fits for the Knicks than Jerome James at 5 years & $30 million?

as for your snit, how about you gimme some pointers on the finer art of picking up women, Bonn?



[Edited by - TMS on 08-26-2005 9:11 PM]
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8/26/2005  10:07 PM
Posted by TMS:

how about ALL the players i listed are better than Jerome James...if you don't have a response or defense, don't waste my time & ask me the question to begin with...you're telling me Donyell Marshall, Eddie Griffin or Zeljko Rebraca wouldn't have been better fits for the Knicks than Jerome James at 5 years & $30 million?

as for your snit, how about you gimme some pointers on the finer art of picking up women, Bonn?



[Edited by - TMS on 08-26-2005 9:11 PM]
and how many of those players that signed are centers? and who was supposed to play center for the knicks this season since KT got traded?

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8/26/2005  10:13 PM
steve blake aka INCASESH T

in case some sh t goes down, that's why steve blake's being mentioned.

bringing in steve blake, if this is legit, means there's something brewing...
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