I kind of looked at it because it gave a view of what he could possibly do with more minutes compared to the 16.5 he had averaged over the year--and basically his career.

6 games

min 22.7 8.3 pts 4.5 reb 1.5 blocks 0 assists 4.5 fouls

season
80 games
min 16.6 5.0 pts 3.0 reb 1.4 block 3.5 fouls

with the added 6 minutes, almost all stats held to form, there was no material change. The scoring his up slightly, but the SB falls back. Rebounding is neutral--but really all numbers remain quite consistent. And if you have watched him play, you can see where he could score 8.5 pts per 24 minutes, but the form has held firm on his rebounding and foul problems. For him to pull down 7 rebounds on a consistent basis, he will need to play 30 minutes, and statistically he would consistently foul out well before that time. On top of it, he has been asked, for the most part, to play 16-20 minutes. He has been hurt a few times which has turned into multiple DNP's, so with an increased workload comes increased injury risk, something he has fallen prey to.

If someone wants to be fair, and look at the numbers and realize that statitically, he is likely to average 8.5 pts 4.5 reb 1.5 blocks and 5 fouls in 24 minutes---I think those are the numbers and increased time you are looking at.

Im not focusing on 4 games he played against Sac because everything reads aberration.

And the fact that their frontline sucked w/o a healthy Miller and no Webber.

Waste of money, cap space, roster space. We were much better off just riding on Frye and Sweetney, but this just cuts their time. And his shotblocking is overrated b/c of his foul woes. The point of having a good shotblocker is to change an opposing teams game plan so that they stay out of the paint. Teams are going to GO AFTER James, knowing full well he's gonna more likely get a foul then a shot block. Of course he's gonna get one every now and then if he's gonna be attacked that much.

you guys are jerks. He's in a new system now and is playing Marbury and Crawford (like Seattle didnt have good playmakers). Also he said with this new big contract he would have a bigger role. We saw how well that worked with Houston

well thats true, but I meant in terms of on the court. He was pretty much what he was when he got that deal, and when he did people suddenly expected him to be Kobe or TMac.

Guys this is really not worth arguing. People who like to tell themsevles JJ will average 12 8 and 2 are not ratinal. You can reason with them all you want, but the best you'll get out of them is to call you a hater lol.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Waste of money, cap space, roster space. We were much better off just riding on Frye and Sweetney, but this just cuts their time. And his shotblocking is overrated b/c of his foul woes. The point of having a good shotblocker is to change an opposing teams game plan so that they stay out of the paint. Teams are going to GO AFTER James, knowing full well he's gonna more likely get a foul then a shot block. Of course he's gonna get one every now and then if he's gonna be attacked that much.

I'd argue that having JJ is going to help Frye and Sweetney develop.

To measure what the worth of JJ is to the team, I think your going to have to look at intangibles like- did JJ prevent easy reach over rebounds, did he 'take up space', did he block his man out- if he does those things, doesn't himself grab the board, but allows sweet or frye or whoever to grab the board, then he's more than worth his money.

Its $5 million a year- I'm happy to pay that kind of money for either a starting center or back up center.

At the very least, Jerome James should be more productive than the Nets' Jason Collins... of course, even at my height (5'7") I might be able to match Collins' numbers given the minutes.

However... these big guys add a lot of intangibles. They may not necessarily block shots, but by virtue of their height/length, they alter a ton of shots and set killer picks--- running into a 7'1" 280lb man is very much like running into a brick wall.

Although you wonder how is it that guys like Sundov are so ineffective when they're so friggin' big. I'd imagine it comes down to poor balance and core strength.

How about focus on games where he is involved in the offensive scheme? Maybe include college? Can you do that?

Posted by rvhoss:

How about focus on games where he is involved in the offensive scheme? Maybe include college? Can you do that?

Sure... why not look at Felton Spencer's college stats because those are relevent. I'm sure if we scour the Earth somewhere somehow we can find evidence that Jerome James can actually play basketball

I thought this was funny, and I'm a homer.

Check out the NBA's offseason moves
Unlike last year, this year's transactions need explanation
By JONATHAN FEIGEN


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/3321306

Isiah Thomas — Thomas' Knicks are still a horribly put-together team. Quentin Richardson brings nothing Larry Brown couldn't have gotten out of Jamal Crawford, Stephon Marbury and, if healthy, Houston. But Thomas had a good draft night (getting Nate Robinson in the Suns deal was a steal), and he did bring Brown to New York. Brown, however, should be in Thomas' office demanding Jerome James be dealt before Thanksgiving.

Fish, where are those stats I asked for?

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-23-2005 10:13 AM]