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lovespree
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8/17/2005  11:56 AM
Can someone post the article on ESPN In about Sprewell looking for a deal.
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8/17/2005  11:57 AM
he should just go live on that boat of his... bring his hungry kids with him
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8/17/2005  11:57 AM
Tellem I got a 30 bag wit his name on it for the low low price of 20 bucks...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/17/2005  12:31 PM
Spree needs to go somewhere. He has one of the most popular car custom business in the country. He has a few other things going on. Retire.

You can't root for a guy like him. When he was on the Knicks he was on his best behavior but he's definately showed his ass again.....

With what he wastes in a month can feed my kids for an entire year maybe 2!!! He really needs to go to hell.

[Edited by - enyspree on 08-17-2005 12:31 PM]
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8/17/2005  12:53 PM
Tellem I got a 30 bag wit his name on it for the low low price of 20 bucks...


What's Defense?
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8/17/2005  12:55 PM
I'd take spree over snow in a new york minute. Hindsight being 20/20, we kept the wrong SG. IMFHO.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-17-2005 12:55 PM]
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8/17/2005  1:12 PM
The article wasn't on Latrell, just highlighted him.

So much for the "Allan Houston rule."

Several new names came on the free-agent market Monday as a result of the new collective bargaining agreement's tax-amnesty provision. Surprisingly, Knicks guard Allan Houston wasn't one of them. Maybe we'll call it the Vin Baker rule instead, based on the titillating prospect of Baker's getting waived by two different teams on the same day (ultimately, only the Celtics waived Baker's contract).

The Knicks cut loose forward Jerome Williams instead of Houston, while other notables such as Dallas' Michael Finley and Orlando's Doug Christie also were on the chopping block. Those new free agents join an unusually large pool of players who have persisted on the free-agent market into late summer. As a result, several quality players remain on the market.

Let's break down the five best players left at each position and where they might be headed. For each, I've included last season's per-40-minute stats and PER -- Player Efficiency Rating, my rating of a player's per-minute statistical production (as explained here, the average player has a 15.0 PER):

POINT GUARDS

1. Earl Watson (13.6 pts, 7.9 ast, 13.04 PER)
Watson's PER isn't as good as the other point guards', but he's the best defender by a mile -- arguably the best defensive point guard in basketball, in fact. That's created plenty of demand, but he's driven off suitors by seeking a team's full mid-level exception.

2. Brevin Knight (13.7 pts, 12.2 ast, 18.06 PER)
Knight played out of his mind last season and has almost no chance of repeating it, but it's still surprising to see such tepid demand for him. With few bites from contenders, chances are he'll return to Charlotte and help groom Raymond Felton.

3. Damon Jones (14.8 pts, 5.4 ast, 15.57 PER)
Jones had a career year but is having trouble getting Cleveland and Miami to raise their bids above the $3.5 million area. At some point he'll have to choose which team will underpay him. Regardless, he'll be starting for a contender and getting lots of open 3s.

4. Gary Payton (13.7 pts, 7.4 ast, 15.18 PER)
Though still a productive offensive player, The Glove's defense is more like "Smell the Glove" these days. He won't be returning to Boston but has several options, including a return to the Lakers.

5. Dan Dickau (17.0 pts, 6.6 ast, 14.85 PER)
Dickau resurrected his career in New Orleans but won't be back after the Hornets drafted Chris Paul. Dickau has had a few nibbles but probably will have to wait for Jones and Watson to go off the market before he gets any serious offers.

SHOOTING GUARDS

1. Michael Finley (17.0 pts, 4.4 reb, 14.34 PER)
A star for most of the past decade, Finley declined sharply last year and Dallas dropped him using the amnesty rule. It remains to be seen whether he'll bounce back, but for the price of a mid-level exception several teams would happily take the risk. ESPN.com's Marc Stein has already broken down the four leading contenders for his services.

2. DerMarr Johnson (16.3 pts, 4.9 reb, 13.97 PER)
Here's the other reason demand for Finley is sky-high: Look at the rest of the shooting guard crop. Going from Finley to Johnson is a drop of Himalayan proportions. Johnson's length makes him a defensive asset and he can hit the 3, but the search for an off-the-dribble game continues. The Nuggets and Spurs both have shown interest in Johnson if they lose the Finley sweepstakes.

3. Greg Buckner (11.4 pts, 5.5 reb, 13.67 PER)
The good-field, no-hit Buckner is useful only as a role player. Buckner had perhaps his best season a year ago but still underwhelmed with his scoring. While his defense will get him a contract somewhere, his inability to find the basket is dampening demand.

4. Doug and Jackie Christie (Doug: 9.0 pts, 5.6 ast, 9.92 PER; Jackie: 0.0 pts, 0.0 ast, 0.00 PER)
A package deal, the Christies suffered through a rough campaign last year thanks to Doug's foot problems and a swarm of reality TV producers. They were waived by Orlando via the amnesty rule but already have an agreement in place to join Dallas; presuming they clear waivers this week.

5. Derek Anderson (14.0 pts, 4.6 ast, 11.68 PER)
An amnesty-rule casualty who was waived by the Blazers, Anderson ventured into free agency with heady talk of getting a team's full mid-level exception but seems to have shifted into a more reality-based view of the marketplace. Several teams have shown interest at a more reasonable price, hoping that his once-potent jumper can return from a two-year siesta.

SMALL FORWARDS

1. Gerald Wallace (14.5 pts, 7.2 reb, 14.07 PER)
The lack of interest in Wallace has been one of the summer's more mystifying events. He's an outstanding defender, he scores enough to keep defenses honest, and he's very young (just 23). Nevertheless, he might have to take the Bobcats' one-year tender due to the absence of other suitors.

2. Devin Brown (16.4 pts, 5.2 reb, 14.57 PER)
A versatile performer who has been stuck in a deep Spurs rotation, Brown can shoot, defend and create shots. A late-season back problem has stifled interest, however. Utah is the only team to recruit him heavily, so Brown may stay in the Alamo City -- his hometown -- for another year.

3. Glenn Robinson (22.9 pts, 6.1 reb, 17.10 PER)
Big Dog played only 157 minutes last year, but his numbers should have gotten some people's attention. No strong offers have been reported yet, but considering Robinson's solid showing in San Antonio, a team looking for scoring punch off the bench should be dialing his agent soon.

4. Damien Wilkins (14.1 pts, 5.1 reb, 13.36 PER)
The son of Gerald and nephew of Dominique, this Wilkins held his own in limited minutes with the Sonics last season. He's a restricted free agent but is being seriously courted by Minnesota.

5. Latrell Sprewell (16.7 pts, 4.1 reb, 12.10 PER)
For the sake of his starving kids, let's hope somebody gives Spree a contract. He made a colossal blunder in turning down the Wolves' three-year, $21-million extension offer last fall. He'll be lucky to earn a tenth of that this season.

POWER FORWARDS

1. Darius Songaila (14.6 pts, 8.3 reb, 14.93 PER)
Teams were reluctant to chase Songaila because of his restricted-free-agent status, but the gloves are off now that Sacramento signed Shareef Abdur-Rahim to play Songaila's position. Songaila doesn't defend or rebound enough to make him worth the full mid-level exception, but many teams could use his offensive punch off the pine.

2. Vladimir Radmanovic (16.0 pts, 6.2 reb, 13.68 PER)
Despite his agent's wild contract demands, Radmanovic is a very ordinary player and has been his whole career. Seattle has an offer of six years, $40 million on the table. Vlad should quickly sign it before the Sonics come to their senses and realize they get a better player for half as much by signing Songaila.

3. Eddie Griffin (14.1 pts, 12.1 reb, 15.96 PER)
Griffin has the most talent of any free-agent forward, with great shot-blocking instincts, good rebounding skills and 3-point range. But his inability to stay out of trouble had most teams backing away, as Griffin spent two weeks of his summer in the can. He looks set to stay in Minnesota on a two-year deal.

4. Reggie Evans (8.2 pts, 15.6 reb, 12.96 PER)
Evans was the best per-minute rebounder in basketball last season, but his inability to score and propensity for turnovers mean he's still a mediocre player overall. He's also a restricted free agent, so few other clubs have been anxious to get in on the bidding. Fortunately for the Sonics, there is a glut of free-agent power forwards -- Christian Laettner, Mikki Moore and Scott Padgett are three others who didn't quite make the list -- which should drive Evans' price down considerably.

5. Jerome Williams (11.9 pts, 9.3 reb, 13.20 PER)
Surprisingly, the Junkyard Dog was dumped by the Knicks and should generate some interest with his ability to defend and rebound. While he saw little action in New York last season, Williams played fairly effectively when he was on the court and has thrived in the past as an energizer-type off the bench.

CENTERS

1. Tyson Chandler (11.7 pts, 14.2 reb, 16.50 PER)
Chandler had one of the best rebound rates in basketball last season and was a major force at the defensive end, but his restricted-free-agent status has kept suitors at bay. Chandler and the Bulls are rumored to be close to agreement on a deal for Samuel Dalembert-type dollars, of which Chandler is much more deserving than Dalembert.

2. Eddy Curry (22.3 pts, 7.4 reb, 16.22 PER)
Curry might as well be radioactive right now. Nobody wants to touch him for two reasons. First, he's a restricted free agent, and second, teams can't get his contract insured because of a heart problem. The most likely option seems to be his taking the Bulls' one-year tender, but little is settled at the moment.

3. Dale Davis (8.7 pts, 11.5 reb, 13.32 PER)
Davis is a veteran tough guy whose shooting range doesn't extend past the end of this sentence, but several teams have expressed interest in securing Davis' physical play off the bench via a one- or two-year deal. A return to Indiana seems the most likely route unless another club coughs up a chunk of its mid-level exception.

4. Vitaly Potapenko (14.0 pts, 9.3 reb, 14.45 PER)
Potapenko played well in limited minutes last year and appears likely to return to Seattle to take over the starting center spot. It shouldn't be hard for him to improve the Sonics, as he'll be hard-pressed to be any worse than Jerome James.

5. Robert Traylor (12.3 pts, 10.0 reb, 11.96 PER)
Cleveland declined Traylor's option to pile up more cap space, but an off year from the Tractor also played an important role. Obviously, conditioning is an issue, but if he's in reasonable shape his scoring numbers should recover from last year's surprising drop.
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8/17/2005  1:14 PM

"Sine you pity on the runny kine!"
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8/17/2005  1:49 PM
as explained here, the average player has a 15.0 PER:
Michael Finley (17.0 pts, 4.4 reb, 14.34 PER)
Does that make Michael Finely a slightly below average player?
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8/17/2005  2:10 PM
That list is good enough to start up a whole new franchise. Pretty impressive bunch of guys.
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8/17/2005  2:17 PM
Posted by Nalod:


"Sine you pity on the runny kine!"

As much as I want to say that Pootie Tang pic doesn't remind me of Spree, I just can't.

Spree will be okay. I think he'll stay out west, though.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Allan retires and the Knicks get Spree back! The front page of the NY Post can show Spree and Dolan hugging like LB and Isiah did.


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8/17/2005  3:14 PM
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Really? Could be 1st cousins!

Spree has a cool hostile mistique about him. He attacts admiration for kicking back at the system that pays him millions of dollars to play basketball. He is quiet, yet his rage is loud (on the court).

Do a google image on him and you see how the press, and the pulicity photos of him are portrayed. I often thought the press did him no good, but those publicity shots also show him with the scowl, the mouth open, the primal "DUNK" he has perfected.

He takes crap from no one, is quiet, and cool at the same time. That right there is kinda pootie itself!

His biggest crime was not with PJ, nor his rotwieller biting his daughters ear, not the "boating" accident, but his mouting off in the garden at Dolan! Not that it was dolan, but it was a public tirade in the fans face! The words and action he chose was just awful. The team we had that did not shut him up was pathetic and Isiah should have kicked them out of the garden right there!

Funny, Spree felt betrayed by Allans critique of his actions that nite. Then, Spree became a clown in my eyes, and thus deseves my depiction of him as a cartoon charactor.



[Edited by - nalod on 08-17-2005 4:22 PM]
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8/17/2005  9:08 PM
Sprewell's agent says the Rockets and the Pistons both want him. We shall see. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3313968
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8/18/2005  12:28 AM
I love the the guy, and is still one of my top 5 players in this league, the ones who I like all around, from personality to game to energy. But I strongly agree with NALOD on this one.
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8/18/2005  12:50 AM
if flip is having any say in detroit i could see pistons getting spree. and the same is probably true about jvg.

wonder if jvg has spree off the bench or maybe play some point time
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8/18/2005  1:03 AM
Nalod - don't be stapin' the cappy chow!

dibby on my fanny !

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8/18/2005  2:18 AM
He'll be a Houston Rocket
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8/18/2005  2:44 AM
"Sine you pity on the runny kine!"

The movie was so stupid but his little rambles have you rolling on the floor.

This is definately a movie you put on after you smoked a Blunt!!!! I miss Weed man......too bad they check my piss at work!
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8/18/2005  1:52 PM
Did that article really say that DeMarr Johnson was an asset defensively????? WTF?
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8/18/2005  2:10 PM
Spree needs a home? -- tellem he can crash at my place......only he can't bring his kids wittem - I don't make enough dough to feed the Lil' Sprees.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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