Posted by Marv:

I for one like hearing what Charles has to say. I think the majority of times he's right.

As a Knick fan I'm thrilled with LB being here.

At the same time i understand and agree that he has created a terrible image for himself. He gave any detractors all the ammunition they want about hm re: the Detroit issue. I think it's his usual MO but this time he had someone just as egomaniacal and self-deluded as himself in Davidson who was more than willing to escalate the issue rather than the usual caving in to LB.

Again I repeat I love LB and am totally thrilled that he's here, but that doesn't make me deny the reality of the situaion with him, as I see it anyway. And apparently as Barkley does as well.

Posted by simrud:

Eh Barkley has a strong opinion on everthyting and anything, you gotta take what people like him say with a grain of salt.

I personally like the fact that he states the obvous once in a while, because sometimes it needs to be stated when the other 3 clowns he usually works with on TV just wount say somethign because it is not "politically correct".

Barkely does come across as someon who is not too bright, but at least he speaks his mind on the air, unlike most others who keep regurgitating the company line and don't dare to even touch on the real issues behind something.

I'll take the bad with good from Barkley, at least he doesnt just stick to one single agenda when he talks like some others on that show do.

[Edited by - simrud on 08/13/2005 14:37:19]

Posted by NYKBocker:

His hatred for the Knicks stems from Charles Oakley. Oakley bitch slapped that fat fool and is still running away from Oak when he is around.

Posted by nixluva:

Barkley is given too much credit. I don't know why people are so into what he has to say. Just because he's controversial. He's horrible on TV, so disrespectful of the other hosts and he steps on their lines all the time. Its painful trying to watch Ernie do his part and have Charles just interrupt every single time.

AS far as the Knicks comments. I think LB is what he is. I don't see how that has any bearing on the job he'll do for the Knicks. He WINS and that's the bottom line.

Steph is always in the conversation of best PG in the league and if he feels he's the best more power to him. Why shouldn't he feel that way. Did Ali not express the same thing all the time. Most players may feel the same way but just haven't said it to a reporter. Mind you he's been egged on by the media to say that Kidd is better for years now and he finally got fed up with it. Face it the Media just hates Steph and anyone can see it, including Steph. He's only human and eventually a man gets tired of all the crap.

Posted by nixluva:

To me its not the point of whether he is technically the BEST PG, but whether he has the right to think he is. Certainly every year he's up there. Nash just now finally got to his level, cuz for many years before this he hasn't been as good as Steph. Its mainly been between Kidd and Steph. Kidd to me has the right to be considered that so far, but Nash had a great season last year but its only one year, not many years like Kidd and Steph.

The whole thing is tough cuz like a QB its all about wins and loses, but the PG is only one part of the equation and too often Steph's teams haven't been all that good. Just compare who he's played with to Nash in Dallas and PHX. Even Kidd has had better teams for more of his career than Steph. None of Steph teams have ever been considered Conf. Finals material at the start of the season or at anytime during a season. Who you play with does matter. Tho people don't want to bring that into it.