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BRIGGS
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8/3/2005  9:36 PM
Marbury to Atlanta-Joe Johnson to NY-move Crawford to point guard, backed up by Nate.
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8/3/2005  9:38 PM
Ughhh.

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/3/2005  9:40 PM
I wouldn't do it.

Marbury is a monster when he's right. And I'm counting on LB to make him more right than any coach he's ever had.

Briggs I rememebr last year you and I saying the same thing - that Marbury played at MVP level for a stretch of games right before the infamous ""I'm the best" comment and subsequent 30-game (sic) losing streak.

Marbury at his best is way better than Joe Johnson at his best.

I wanna see what's gonna happen.
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8/3/2005  9:42 PM
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[Edited by - BOBS3304 on 08/03/2005 21:42:41]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/3/2005  9:55 PM
I can't remember what JJ's D was like, but if it was near lockdown, I would do it.
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BRIGGS
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8/3/2005  9:59 PM
Posted by Marv:

I wouldn't do it.

Marbury is a monster when he's right. And I'm counting on LB to make him more right than any coach he's ever had.

Briggs I rememebr last year you and I saying the same thing - that Marbury played at MVP level for a stretch of games right before the infamous ""I'm the best" comment and subsequent 30-game (sic) losing streak.

Marbury at his best is way better than Joe Johnson at his best.

I wanna see what's gonna happen.


The only allegiance I have is to the Knicks. Id rather have a Crawford Joe Johnson backcourt. If they are stalling this thing because they might think Johnson is an expenive redundancy, cool. Marbury is more of a brand name for them, maybe something they need. Id rather have the bigger, younger, more athletic backcourt.
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8/3/2005  10:03 PM
It's not even Marbury vs. JJ Briggs.


It's how every Knick fan looks for another player every week.


Oh, how about Kwame Brown. How about Pau Gasol. How about KG. How about Artest. And now how about JJ - when he's already been traded (officially btw).


It's just getting ridiculous.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/3/2005  10:24 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

It's not even Marbury vs. JJ Briggs.


It's how every Knick fan looks for another player every week.


Oh, how about Kwame Brown. How about Pau Gasol. How about KG. How about Artest. And now how about JJ - when he's already been traded (officially btw).


It's just getting ridiculous.
that's knicks fans.

plus our team SUCKS.

we want the team improved.

any way possible.

we have a flawed backcourt and logjam with redundant non-star backcourt ballers and scrub front court ballers.

Marbury is a star that never has really kicked @$$ and alienates teammates and gets grumpy because he has only played with scrubs.

imagine you were a superstar-stud (or thought you were) at whatever your job is and you had to work with idiots every day on a project - and then got labelled a scrub yourself when you got frustrated at them not knowing how to use Microsoft Excel or how to make a powerpoint presentation - and you showed them how to do it wonderfully just yesterday. And the day before. And before that. Welcome to Marbury's world. Pietro Maximoff Syndrome - aka Quicksilver syndrome - where you have your game tight but everyone else moves so slow...

Marbury is almost the point guard version of kobe attitude-wise.

This is Ewing part two - we have a stud on the team but arent putting the players around him. Please - busted Penny? Fat-@$$ sweets? Butler? KT? We have NO low post studs. We all know TT is GAZY.
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8/3/2005  10:33 PM
Not doubting any of that.


But the fickleness is just getting out of hand.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/3/2005  10:52 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Not doubting any of that.


But the fickleness is just getting out of hand.
it's the off-season. no real games are played now - it's all speculation. that's what this board is about until there are games to be discussed.
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8/3/2005  10:54 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Not doubting any of that.


But the fickleness is just getting out of hand.

For once, I agree with you. Look how people turned on Soriano, for not having a SPECTACULAR postseason. I'm not knocking the fact we have A-Rod, just saying how quick we are to turn on players who don't quote unquote meet the standard. Marbury is a stud. I expect him to have they same numbers if not better. You have a PG shoooting 46% from the field and you want to switch him with someone who shoots a lower %, turns the ball over more, and won't get the assist #'s. Fickleness is not even the word to describe some Knick fans.
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8/3/2005  11:01 PM
Posted by tapseer:
Posted by bobs3304:

Not doubting any of that.


But the fickleness is just getting out of hand.

For once, I agree with you. Look how people turned on Soriano, for not having a SPECTACULAR postseason. I'm not knocking the fact we have A-Rod, just saying how quick we are to turn on players who don't quote unquote meet the standard. Marbury is a stud. I expect him to have they same numbers if not better. You have a PG shoooting 46% from the field and you want to switch him with someone who shoots a lower %, turns the ball over more, and won't get the assist #'s. Fickleness is not even the word to describe some Knick fans.

thats rediculous. if you feel you can improve the team, you do it. personally i think you improve the team doing this. I like Crawford at PG and Joe Johnson gives us a legit sized 2 G who is bordering on superstardom. That would put our backcourt at 6-5 + 6-7. I would love to put a backcourt together like that, that's my vote.
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8/3/2005  11:06 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

it's the off-season. no real games are played now - it's all speculation. that's what this board is about until there are games to be discussed.

That's the type of answer you give if you're trying to insult no one. I'm not worried about offending anyone. Here's the painful truth:


No matter who's on this team (realistically), some of you guys will always find something to complain about. On the other hand, some guys think that no matter how the team is doing, there's always potential.

I don't understand how this board is significantly "better" than Knicks4Life or RealGM. Granted, I LOVE THIS SITE. But I'm finding that there are just as many Homers and Self-Haters here than any other site. The problem with some of you is that your point of view is scewed. Either you could care less who we trade as long as we bring in friggin Lebron, or you're not open to trading anyone b/c there's loads of "potential."

Let's be fair. We have some nice pieces in place, with the "potential" for them to improve under Brown. And of course, guys like Timmy, Mo Taylor, Penny, and Houston, which are useless. But can't we all agree that if the right trade came along (a realistic, rational one), that we'd be willing to give up even some of those "nice pieces". And that, on the other hand, there's no need to get rid of just anyone b/c you're frustrated with the team's peformance so far. You gotta take it in strides.

I'm personally guilty for wanting Crawford gone. I still agree with most of the points I made, but I think in a perfect world Jamal should atleast be given half a year to prove himself.

And last but not least, unfortunately, we all have to be able to distinguish b/w SHOULD and WILL. What should happen is not always what will happen with Isiah and Dolan in charge. So far, I trust Isiah enough to not question his every move until proven otherwise. In fact, the only deal I question so far is the Mo Taylor one. That still hurts.

Enough preaching. Back to the Daily Show mother****ers...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/3/2005  11:07 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by tapseer:
Posted by bobs3304:

Not doubting any of that.


But the fickleness is just getting out of hand.

For once, I agree with you. Look how people turned on Soriano, for not having a SPECTACULAR postseason. I'm not knocking the fact we have A-Rod, just saying how quick we are to turn on players who don't quote unquote meet the standard. Marbury is a stud. I expect him to have they same numbers if not better. You have a PG shoooting 46% from the field and you want to switch him with someone who shoots a lower %, turns the ball over more, and won't get the assist #'s. Fickleness is not even the word to describe some Knick fans.

thats rediculous. if you feel you can improve the team, you do it. personally i think you improve the team doing this. I like Crawford at PG and Joe Johnson gives us a legit sized 2 G who is bordering on superstardom. That would put our backcourt at 6-5 + 6-7. I would love to put a backcourt together like that, that's my vote.
only if Johnson comes to nyk with a phantom of the opera style mask - with one side present. his Left side i think is busted from breaking his orbital
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8/3/2005  11:35 PM
what about
marbs
sweets
fut #1

for
j smith
j johnson

if the cap thing dosent work throw in some fillers
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8/3/2005  11:46 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by Caseloads:

it's the off-season. no real games are played now - it's all speculation. that's what this board is about until there are games to be discussed.

That's the type of answer you give if you're trying to insult no one. I'm not worried about offending anyone. Here's the painful truth:


No matter who's on this team (realistically), some of you guys will always find something to complain about. On the other hand, some guys think that no matter how the team is doing, there's always potential.

I don't understand how this board is significantly "better" than Knicks4Life or RealGM. Granted, I LOVE THIS SITE. But I'm finding that there are just as many Homers and Self-Haters here than any other site. The problem with some of you is that your point of view is scewed. Either you could care less who we trade as long as we bring in friggin Lebron, or you're not open to trading anyone b/c there's loads of "potential."

Let's be fair. We have some nice pieces in place, with the "potential" for them to improve under Brown. And of course, guys like Timmy, Mo Taylor, Penny, and Houston, which are useless. But can't we all agree that if the right trade came along (a realistic, rational one), that we'd be willing to give up even some of those "nice pieces". And that, on the other hand, there's no need to get rid of just anyone b/c you're frustrated with the team's peformance so far. You gotta take it in strides.

I'm personally guilty for wanting Crawford gone. I still agree with most of the points I made, but I think in a perfect world Jamal should atleast be given half a year to prove himself.

And last but not least, unfortunately, we all have to be able to distinguish b/w SHOULD and WILL. What should happen is not always what will happen with Isiah and Dolan in charge. So far, I trust Isiah enough to not question his every move until proven otherwise. In fact, the only deal I question so far is the Mo Taylor one. That still hurts.

Enough preaching. Back to the Daily Show mother****ers...

Dude,

If you don't like the channel, then change it. Not all posts are gonna be good. The proposed changes are more like fantasy teams then the cold reality of massive player movements.

Im not saying I am satisfied with anything, but if these dudes want to whine, cry, snit, beyotch, Post pics of hot chicks, preach, rant ballyhoo, bicker, brew-ha ha, bolderdash, circle jerk, and suggest otherwise, its their gig!

If you don't dig a subject, or the way its going, or you think you hav e read the same thing 100 times over and over again, then just go on to the next one, or start one that interests you!

We all roll our eyes at one time or another, but you gotta just let some things go. Its better that way, trust me!

Or , just check out for a few days and chill.
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8/3/2005  11:55 PM
So you're agreeing or disagreeing? Caz you didn't actually "respond" to what I said...in fact, if I take anything from your post, it's that I shouldn't care one way or the other if you all agree we should trade Penny and Crawford for Jermaine O'neal and Artest. I'm a diehard Knick fan, and if I go out of my way to call a fellow Knick fan out on some unrealistic, fantasy trade, then so be it. It may not be the best thing to do everytime, but I'd like to think it's better to infuse this site with some knowledge everytime than not at all...


and yes - me telling Killa that Ron Artest is going nowhere is def. me infusing knowledge. that he or anyone else refuses to come to terms with that is their problem, not mine.


[Edited by - BOBS3304 on 08/03/2005 23:56:39]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/4/2005  12:06 AM
I would do the original trade but wtf...........didn't Isiah kill the noise on that issue already?


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8/4/2005  12:23 AM
Marbury thinks so:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/04/sports/basketball/04knicks.html
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Posted by bobs3304:

So you're agreeing or disagreeing? Caz you didn't actually "respond" to what I said...in fact, if I take anything from your post, it's that I shouldn't care one way or the other if you all agree we should trade Penny and Crawford for Jermaine O'neal and Artest. I'm a diehard Knick fan, and if I go out of my way to call a fellow Knick fan out on some unrealistic, fantasy trade, then so be it. It may not be the best thing to do everytime, but I'd like to think it's better to infuse this site with some knowledge everytime than not at all...


and yes - me telling Killa that Ron Artest is going nowhere is def. me infusing knowledge. that he or anyone else refuses to come to terms with that is their problem, not mine.


why do you insist on lunging at every post with a callous disregard for other posters here? You are obviously someone who has posted here before, who? I dont give a flying fudge, but this incessant, antagonistic candor is boring. You seek attention, my advice, buy a gerbal.
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