New York Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
8.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.6 minutes

Maurice Taylor
6-9 PF from Michigan
7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes

Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes

Incoming

Keith Van Horn
6-10 SF from Utah
12.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.6 minutes

Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes

Tariq Abdul-Wahad
6-6 from San Jose State
No games yet played in 2004/05
Change in team outlook: -16.4 ppg, +1.3 rpg, and -8.2 apg.


Dallas Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Keith Van Horn
6-10 SF from Utah
12.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.6 minutes

Erick Dampier
6-11 C from Mississippi State
9.2 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 27.3 minutes

Tariq Abdul-Wahad
6-6 from San Jose State
No games yet played in 2004/05

Incoming

Malik Rose
6-7 PF from Drexel
8.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.6 minutes

Maurice Taylor
6-9 PF from Michigan
7.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.8 minutes

Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +16.4 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and +8.2 apg.



Successful Scenario
Due to New York and Dallas being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. New York and Dallas had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


We get Dampier's huge contract but he can play defense and is a legit 7'0, while we get KVH who can rebound and shoot and in his last year of his contract ( same as Abdul-Wahad ) !! No more PF glut !!

C = Dampier / JJ
PF = Frye / Sweets / Lee
SF = Ariza / KVH / Lee
SG = Q / Crawford
PG = Crawford / Nate

Now come on we can move 3 huge contract for 1 huge contract and 2 tradable assets ! Yes Dallas would do it to get Marbs on point and Rose for defense & Mo T for offense ( Cuban would love it ) !!!

Starbury for Feet Van Corn? NO.

...and Dallas can keep Damp. He's nowhere near woth that long azz contract, and I would doubt Isiah and Larry would take on that cutthroat contract. Hell no.

So you think Damp + KVH's expiring contract is not worth Marbs, Rose & Mo T ??

Killa it passed on realgm dawg !

wow this might be the worst trade proposal ive ever seen

Posted by OngBok:

Killa it passed on realgm dawg !

WoW. I guess thats why Ultimateknicks is my favorite site, and I only check realgm when I get bored over here.

Still you should know better than to trade Steph + filler, for Dampier and expiring contracts. You should have known better.

ok i get it

You have to be joking.

Only works if you consider it a salary dump.

BUt a salary "DAMP"?

Damp at center will not carry us to the promise land, and 3 years he will be sheet!.

Sorry, I would rather we wait until we know Marbs rejects greatness, and there will be other opportunities to dump salary.

While I'm not averse to trading Marbury in the right deal, This trade makes absoulutley no sense. Marbs is still a very good player and what, 29 YO? There are a couple of scenarios where trading him makes sense:

1) Straight up for another star/near star player (preferably a big)

2) a deal similar to what we gave up for him. If we're gonna take expiring contracts as the bulk of the money coming back, we need to get some combo of picks/prospects back as well. While it's doubtful we would get as much as we gave up * (2 1st rounders/2 prospects (1 of which is probably never gonna play in the NBA) We have to get something. As a lot of people are fond of pointing out, the best players are never traded for JUST expiring contracts. At this point, I think one prospect/1 pick would be the best we could do, considering Steph's (somewhat unfairly) tarnished rep around the league. Also, I agree we should try to attach Rose to any Marbury deal if we can, the way we were stuck taking Penny, if the goal is clearing cap room for 2007. Not sure it'll work though. In most cases, Steph's deal alone is too much for most teams to take on.

A couple of other things on Scenario 2 - If we go that route, it means letting TT/Penny this year, and H20/MoT/JYD next year all expire and not trading their contracts. Also should investigate movig Crawford for a shorter contract as well. And just having the cap space is no guarantee we'll land LeBron, Yao, or Amare.

Nothing I've seen from Isiah so far suggests he wants to go this direction. We'll see what happens with LB aboard now, but this trade dosen't work for us. Dampier? We already have Jerome James!

Posted by s3231:

Please, don't post anymore trade ideas

im not as nice as bigpimpin.