We all know Brown won't be around for more than a few years. And it seems he has genuine affection for Herb and will take him under his wing, so Herb can be heir apparent while learning from perhaps the best coach in the game.

If the Knicks didn't get LB, Herb would be, at best, a lame duck coach who would be gone by mid season if the team wasn't pushing toward the playoffs. And IT may have found someone else for this season anyway ... someone who doesn't give a s**t about Herb. This way, Herb only builds on his rep as a loyal, team-first guy. He'll get his shot with the Knicks, and hopefully by then he'll be ready.

exactly...Herb will benefit from Larry being our head coach....He may even help the Knicks win the big dance if Larry retires early.

Posted by bernard:

We all know Brown won't be around for more than a few years. And it seems he has genuine affection for Herb and will take him under his wing, so Herb can be heir apparent while learning from perhaps the best coach in the game.

If the Knicks didn't get LB, Herb would be, at best, a lame duck coach who would be gone by mid season if the team wasn't pushing toward the playoffs. And IT may have found someone else for this season anyway ... someone who doesn't give a s**t about Herb. This way, Herb only builds on his rep as a loyal, team-first guy. He'll get his shot with the Knicks, and hopefully by then he'll be ready.

I couldn't agree more. I hope Herb feels the same way, or this situation could get really ugly.

If you look at alot of the coaches in the NBA many of them are "disciples" of their mentor from when they first began as assistants. JVG coached under both Pat Riley and Don Nelson. Larry Brown, Roy Williams and about a million other coaches all learned their game from Dean Smith. It's time for Larry Brown to become the teacher and this would be the best thing for Herb, I know Herb is probably going to feel a bit walked over in this situation but it would greatly benefit him to be the top assistant under Larry and learn everything he can from him. It will put himself and the Knicks in a much better position when Larry leaves.

Posted by rojasmas:

Spare me the bs about Larry worrying about Herb. Larry worries about Larry. Larry also worries about putting a good spin on a situation that could make him look like the bad guy. He already knows he looked bad during the playoffs talking to Cleveland when he had a contract. Dumars and Davidson fired him for his behind the scenes antics. The guy is a carpetbagger me-first control freak who happens to be a good coach. I am not so sure about what kind of person he is. Good coach and good guy don't always go hand in hand.

Either way Herb is going to learn a significant amount from being a top assistant to Larry. Whether or not thats a PR move by Brown, who knows, but Herb will learn from Larry without a doubt.

Herb is irrelevant.

back in jan. larry sez his dream is to coach the knicks. weeks after larry sez he'll retire with pistons. now larry is released from pistons and flip saunders signs. now larry dont want to jump in any knicks agreement too fast without raising questions on his coaching intentions back in detroit. imo this leaves anything that larry says about herb irrelevant.

dumars handed larry a made team and all he had to do was to win back to back championships....so much for greatness

larry says he has health issues. and dont forget lenny had to retire because of health issues.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by Rich:

Herb is irrelevant.

Herb is far from irrelevant. Herb can be like a draft pick for coaches. Larry Brown develops him and as Larry steps down Herb is in a great position to lead the team. He's only irrelevant if you are shor-sighted.

No, he's only relevant if you're myopic. He has not demonstrated that he would be a good coach. To the contrary, the team didn't play hard for him, and he showed how selfish he is by foolishly playing vets down the stretch, thereby hurting the Knicks' draft position.

When Brown leaves the Knicks should hire the best coach available, not Herb.

Posted by Rich:

No, he's only relevant if you're myopic. He has not demonstrated that he would be a good coach. To the contrary, the team didn't play hard for him, and he showed how selfish he is by foolishly playing vets down the stretch, thereby hurting the Knicks' draft position.

When Brown leaves the Knicks should hire the best coach available, not Herb.

We now know that not playing the youn players was because Isiah wanted to give minutes only to the players that had been working hard to get them. Yeah, it was a shot at Sweets, Ariza, and even at Butler, but thats the way it was. I would've rather played the young players and develope them but thats in the past now. I do believe that Herb's coaching was veeery suspicious, but I don't think he is irrelevant. He should learn from Brown and then, when he gets a chance to be a real headcoach,we'll see how valuable he is as a coach...

Originally posted by Bobby:

dumars handed larry a made team and all he had to do was to win back to back championships....so much for greatness




"All he had to do" ???

Winning TITLES isn't EASY!
Detroit was a huge underdog the first time around, and if Sheed hadn't left Rob Horry wide open for that game clincher, the PISTONS might have won back-to-back.

You have to be crazy or sarcastic to write what you wrote. I hope you were being sarcastic.

The Pistons were fortunate to get to the Finals this year. If Wade didn't get hurt the Heat would have beaten the Pistons. So they were closer to being eliminated in the Conference Finals than to winning a back to back championship in my opinion. Brown didn't do such a great job this year. And Carlisle was the one who got the Pistons rolling, they only become championship caliber when Rasheed was added thanks to dumb Danny Ainge making a team in his own conference even better.