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7/23/2005  4:45 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2115025

NEW YORK -- Larry Brown's children were running around their house wearing Knicks gear sent by Isiah Thomas while their 64-year-old unemployed father was preparing to take another look at the pros-and-cons list he and his wife had assembled the night before.

Brown was spending the weekend contemplating whether to become the head coach of the New York Knicks, and in a lengthy phone interview Saturday with The Associated Press he left a strong impression that he was leaning toward taking the job.

"How many opportunities like this present themselves? My family is here, my older kids have family here, I have an opportunity to work with someone in Isiah who's a special friend and a super person. There's a lot of real positive things," Brown said.

The next step could come as soon as Monday when Brown meets with interim Knicks coach Herb Williams, who has spent the spring and summer waiting to learn whether it will be himself, Brown or Phil Jackson coaching the Knicks when training camp opens.

A formal job offer would likely come after Brown met with owner James Dolan and Madison Square Garden president Steve Mills, and his entire job-switching process could be completed in a matter of nine to 10 days.

First, though, Brown wants to be completely at peace with his decision.

And that will not come until he speaks further with his wife, Shelly, to make sure she fully concurs with a career choice that would thrust her husband back into the coaching grind that his doctors have warned him might not mesh with his health problems.

"I've got to get Shelly and the kids onboard and see what's in everybody's best interest," Brown said. "Isiah being there is such a plus, and Shelly has always said it would be great to bring up the kids in the East. But I don't know. The last 2½ weeks have been so tough."

Brown spent Saturday morning playing golf in a country-club match play tournament, advancing to the semifinals after using a birdie-par-par finish to get through his 19-hole quarterfinal the previous day.

He has been sailing in the waters off Long Island and spending quality time with his two young children, T.J. and Madison, while trying to get past the feelings of rejection and betrayal that accompanied his acrimonious departure from the Detroit Pistons earlier in the week.

Brown sounded as miffed about the circumstances of his own departure as he was with the dismissal of his secretary, video coordinator and assistant coaches, but he also finds himself realizing that the hurt will have long since worn off six months from now.

"I really did have two fabulous years, and whatever happened afterward happened. I'm OK that way, it's just that you don't like to feel like you're a failure and you don't like your kids to hear you were 'let go,"' Brown said. "Moving kids across the country is tough, and I want to make sure we don't ever have to do that again."

Brown said his children were feeling especially comfortable in their summer home in East Hampton, N.Y., experiencing a sense of relief with the knowledge they'll be living in that home for the rest of the calendar year.

Brown also chatted about the particulars of living in suburban Westchester County, where the Knicks have their practice facility and where he'd purchase a home if he decided to take the job. He also sounded eager to speak to many of the players he'd be coaching.

One of them, Stephon Marbury, left a phone message for Brown early Saturday after giving an interview on a local sports radio station Friday and endorsing the possible hiring of the 64-year-old coach he clashed with at last summer's Olympics.

"Larry brings something totally different to the table because of his experience, and everyone knows experience rules. So for him to be the coach, it'd be great," Marbury said.

One of his wife's concerns was her belief that Brown might not get the extended period of rest his doctors want him to have. His wife was worried, Brown said, that if he accepts the job by the end of July he'd spend August and September badgering Thomas with ideas on how to improve the Knicks.

When that concern was raised with Thomas during a 4-hour summit meeting between the two men Friday night, Thomas told Brown that the natural NBA downtime in August and September should provide more than enough time to relax and rejuvenate. Brown also told his wife if he turns down the Knicks, it'll only be a matter of days before another NBA team or college program comes knocking at his door with the next big job opportunity.

"I didn't have a Plan B. Everything has changed so quickly. These last couple of weeks have been kind of difficult to sort everything out and look ahead," Brown said. "I love to coach, and that's what I'd like to do. But still it's a huge decision."

So while Brown ponders his future, Knicks fans around the New York area are hanging on his every word. When they run into him on the street, they all ask if he's coming.

Brown has even found himself a target of the paparazzi.

"I was taking my garbage out last night, and there was a guy sitting in a car across the street taking my picture," Brown said.

The photo, complete with a clearly distinguishable look of surprise on Brown's face, ran Saturday in the New York Post under the headline "Leisure Larry."

But that period of leisure will have a very brief shelf life.

Come Monday, the process moves forward.

Brown wants to make his decision sooner rather than later, and nearly everything he said Saturday left the clear impression that "Brown's Town" might just be the headline of choice across the back pages of the tabloids before the coming week is over.

''We don't have the luxury to take anybody lightly,'' New York's Quentin Richardson said. ''We're not that good.''
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7/23/2005  4:51 PM
Larry Brown should have the ability to bring in his own assistants. I think forcing certain assistants on Lenny and taking away his guys was a mistake. Brown shouldn't be forced to keep Herb, Aguirre, Glymph, Malone etc. if he has other guys he has in mind for the job.
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7/23/2005  4:52 PM
Why is everyone delaying the inevitable! Can he please just sign the damn contract and get it over with already
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7/23/2005  4:52 PM
well herb and agguire can stay...i could careless about the other two...its good to see players on da knicks actually vouch for brown to coach them..i wonder if they did da same with herb lol
''We don't have the luxury to take anybody lightly,'' New York's Quentin Richardson said. ''We're not that good.''
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7/23/2005  5:10 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Larry Brown should have the ability to bring in his own assistants. I think forcing certain assistants on Lenny and taking away his guys was a mistake. Brown shouldn't be forced to keep Herb, Aguirre, Glymph, Malone etc. if he has other guys he has in mind for the job.
Obviously Brown has the kind of juice to bring whoever he wants. It would be a huge mistake to get rid of Glymph, Malone and especially Aguirre now because they've worked with the new kids for so long now. With the kinda loot the Knicks throw around hiring all of these guys shouldn't be a problem at all. It's like combining the Indiana and Detroit coaching staffs to run the Knicks. You couldn't ask for a better situation.

Last but not least Brown is home. For Christsake, the guys mom lives here (forget about added benefit of his older kids and grandchildren). It's a done deal...we're just going through protocol.

[Edited by - Junkmein on 07/23/2005 17:14:30]
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7/23/2005  5:11 PM
Sorry, double post

[Edited by - Junkmein on 07/23/2005 17:13:53]
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7/23/2005  5:17 PM
The old adage is that you shouldn't have too many chefs in the kitchen. I think Larry should bring in whoever's on the same page with him and that's it. I know Aguirre, Glymph etc. have been working with the young players, but how much of that is PR put out by the Knicks? Sweetney has yet to show all the post moves he had in college, Nazr learned a couple of moves, but didn't improve that much. No one has learned to play D or improved their level of D under these guys...in some ways they might've regressed. (Nazr was known to be a pretty decent post defender in Atlanta). DOn't get me wrong I like the idea of having teachers work closely with the young players, but if Brown has a different idea of getting it done, I say Aguirre, Glymph etc. are expendable.
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7/23/2005  5:22 PM
valid points...well i just hope borwn is our coach and his assistants are top flight and not any posers
''We don't have the luxury to take anybody lightly,'' New York's Quentin Richardson said. ''We're not that good.''
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7/23/2005  5:24 PM
Larry will never allow Zeke to tell him who to have as assistants...This is Larry Brown we are talking about people. I like Agwire, but Zeke may have to create another position for him.
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7/23/2005  5:27 PM
Posted by VDesai:

The old adage is that you shouldn't have too many chefs in the kitchen. I think Larry should bring in whoever's on the same page with him and that's it. I know Aguirre, Glymph etc. have been working with the young players, but how much of that is PR put out by the Knicks? Sweetney has yet to show all the post moves he had in college, Nazr learned a couple of moves, but didn't improve that much. No one has learned to play D or improved their level of D under these guys...in some ways they might've regressed. (Nazr was known to be a pretty decent post defender in Atlanta). DOn't get me wrong I like the idea of having teachers work closely with the young players, but if Brown has a different idea of getting it done, I say Aguirre, Glymph etc. are expendable.

Too many chefs in the kitchen. Uhh, this is Larry Brown we're talking about. Not Flip what's his name or Lenny (who I respect btw) . When the Knicks bring in LB they'll be in good hands...no question.

Nazr's not here anymore and Nate, Lee and Frye are. They are the new players I was discussing and doggone it they looked like they made major progress from the first time we saw them in SL to now. If that's a Knicks PR job then you haven't provided any evidence to confirm that. I can only go by what I see on the court.

As far as Sweetney, we haven't seen since May. He'll sink or swim this coming year. I'm guessing that the man is working out like an animal as we speak as he totally remakes his body. I've let it be known that I think Sweetney will be a border line Allstar this year.
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7/23/2005  5:52 PM
I have the impression that Larry may add Herb to his staff because he appreciates him a lot. Maybe he just wants to make sure that if Larry gets the coaching job, Herb and him will be on the same page, no hard feelings for taking his job. But again maybe not. I don't know, but Larry is not like any coach. He will do whatever he wants to do with his staff. Im sure Isiah can create many positions for his guys...
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7/23/2005  5:54 PM
I hope Herb is willing to work under Larry.
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7/23/2005  5:56 PM
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2115025

NEW YORK -- Larry Brown's children were running around their house wearing Knicks gear sent by Isiah Thomas while their 64-year-old unemployed father was preparing to take another look at the pros-and-cons list he and his wife had assembled the night before.

Lol, damn Isiah is good. He is brainwashing the kids with Knicks gear.


[Edited by - s3231 on 07/23/2005 17:56:40]
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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7/23/2005  6:06 PM
Posted by PhilinLA:

I hope Herb is willing to work under Larry.

Why whouldn't he? He can learn volumes while under LB's wing.
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7/23/2005  6:07 PM
Posted by s3231:
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2115025

NEW YORK -- Larry Brown's children were running around their house wearing Knicks gear sent by Isiah Thomas while their 64-year-old unemployed father was preparing to take another look at the pros-and-cons list he and his wife had assembled the night before.

Lol, damn Isiah is good. He is brainwashing the kids with Knicks gear.

Hey man, kids like kool-aid too.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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7/23/2005  6:11 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
Posted by s3231:
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2115025

NEW YORK -- Larry Brown's children were running around their house wearing Knicks gear sent by Isiah Thomas while their 64-year-old unemployed father was preparing to take another look at the pros-and-cons list he and his wife had assembled the night before.

Lol, damn Isiah is good. He is brainwashing the kids with Knicks gear.

Hey man, kids like kool-aid too.

Im sure thats their favorite drink now. And lets not forget that if those things don't work, Isiah can always give them popcorn
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7/23/2005  6:14 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
Posted by s3231:
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2115025

NEW YORK -- Larry Brown's children were running around their house wearing Knicks gear sent by Isiah Thomas while their 64-year-old unemployed father was preparing to take another look at the pros-and-cons list he and his wife had assembled the night before.

Lol, damn Isiah is good. He is brainwashing the kids with Knicks gear.

Hey man, kids like kool-aid too.

Im sure thats their favorite drink now. And lets not forget that if those things don't work, Isiah can always give them popcorn

Haha, Isiah is waiting to pull out the popcorn.
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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7/23/2005  6:30 PM
Bet dollars to donuts that the talk on Monday will be

LB "Herb-how would you feel about being assistent head coach and fill in and run the team if I have to take a week or so off?"

HW "Larry-it would be an honor"

LB "Great- let me call Isaiah and Jim"

Case closed-new coach-new outlook-winning team
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7/23/2005  6:34 PM
Exactly. read this article below.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/23/sports/basketball/23rhoden.html

Posted by TheSage:

Bet dollars to donuts that the talk on Monday will be

LB "Herb-how would you feel about being assistent head coach and fill in and run the team if I have to take a week or so off?"

HW "Larry-it would be an honor"

LB "Great- let me call Isaiah and Jim"

Case closed-new coach-new outlook-winning team
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7/23/2005  6:34 PM
Posted by TheSage:

Bet dollars to donuts that the talk on Monday will be

LB "Herb-how would you feel about being assistent head coach and fill in and run the team if I have to take a week or so off?"

HW "Larry-it would be an honor"

LB "Great- let me call Isaiah and Jim"

Case closed-new coach-new outlook-winning team

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Brown to talk with Herb Williams On Monday

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