People keep bringing up Camby, but I don't see it. Camby is a freak of nature athlete with his quickness and hops in that 6' 11" body. Frye doesn't seem to have that kind of spring, though he may have some more offensive skills.

I hate to say it, the name is near heresy on this board, but the guy who pops to my mind when I see Frye play, even his manner when being interviewed ... is Charles Smith.

There. Lightening hasn't struck. I'm still typing.

Actually, if Frye ends up having a Charles Smith-like career, minus a half dozen missed putbacks that I shouldn't even mention, I think he'll have done well. I'm not yet convinced that Frye is going to be an NBA starter.

no question about it. Charles Smith is the best comparison. I would've rather gambled on Gerald Green or Bynum

Why can't he be his own player? He doesn't remind me of anyone. I remember when Camby was traded here and his first shot was in garbage time and it hit the side of the backboard everyone was bashing him and talking about how we gave up Oak for him.

Guns, maybe we can give up his rights and go find Splitter.

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Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Why can't he be his own player? He doesn't remind me of anyone. I remember when Camby was traded here and his first shot was in garbage time and it hit the side of the backboard everyone was bashing him and talking about how we gave up Oak for him.

Guns, maybe we can give up his rights and go find Splitter.

give up Frye and go find Splitter? Sign me up!

LOL We'd be in trouble.

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Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Why can't he be his own player? He doesn't remind me of anyone. I remember when Camby was traded here and his first shot was in garbage time and it hit the side of the backboard everyone was bashing him and talking about how we gave up Oak for him.

Guns, maybe we can give up his rights and go find Splitter.

give up Frye and go find Splitter? Sign me up!

LOL We'd be in trouble.

not really considering he'll be 21 next year and a bigger part of the championship calibur team he played great for in the playoffs and most likely a lottery pick in next year's draft!

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Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Why can't he be his own player? He doesn't remind me of anyone. I remember when Camby was traded here and his first shot was in garbage time and it hit the side of the backboard everyone was bashing him and talking about how we gave up Oak for him.

Guns, maybe we can give up his rights and go find Splitter.

give up Frye and go find Splitter? Sign me up!

LOL We'd be in trouble.

not really considering he'll be 21 next year and a bigger part of the championship calibur team he played great for in the playoffs and most likely a lottery pick in next year's draft!

But these players still have to all do the same thing. Prove themselves in the NBA. It's always easy to put a player down before he plays one pro NBA game. Just like it's easy to make an average player seem phenomenal before he has played one pro NBA game.

It's like the people who were screaming Lampe when they'd never seen him play. They heard comparisons to Dirk and that was all she wrote!

Again, why bash a player b4 they get to play in this league...and at the same time why pump up a player that hasn't play. And most importantly, why pump up a player that we've never really even seen play let alone in the NBA?

Posted by gunsnewing:

Frye has bigger arms than Camby but he is soft. Camby is not soft at all, he's fierce! you can get by with Camby as your Center because of it. have Frye at Center with Sweetney next to him and you won't win more than 39games

I wanted to draft Bynum, but it's too early to call Frye soft.

Aren't you comparing him to the current version of Camby, not Camby as a rookie?

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Posted by gunsnewing:

Frye has bigger arms than Camby but he is soft. Camby is not soft at all, he's fierce! you can get by with Camby as your Center because of it. have Frye at Center with Sweetney next to him and you won't win more than 39games

I wanted to draft Bynum, but it's too early to call Frye soft.

Aren't you comparing him to the current version of Camby, not Camby as a rookie?

Camby as a rookie averaged 15pts, 6rebs & over 2 blocks! no way Frye averages those kind of numbers. Maybe 10pts, 6rebs & 1 block at best

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Posted by gunsnewing:

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Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

Why can't he be his own player? He doesn't remind me of anyone. I remember when Camby was traded here and his first shot was in garbage time and it hit the side of the backboard everyone was bashing him and talking about how we gave up Oak for him.

Guns, maybe we can give up his rights and go find Splitter.

give up Frye and go find Splitter? Sign me up!

LOL We'd be in trouble.

not really considering he'll be 21 next year and a bigger part of the championship calibur team he played great for in the playoffs and most likely a lottery pick in next year's draft!

But these players still have to all do the same thing. Prove themselves in the NBA. It's always easy to put a player down before he plays one pro NBA game. Just like it's easy to make an average player seem phenomenal before he has played one pro NBA game.

It's like the people who were screaming Lampe when they'd never seen him play. They heard comparisons to Dirk and that was all she wrote!

Again, why bash a player b4 they get to play in this league...and at the same time why pump up a player that hasn't play. And most importantly, why pump up a player that we've never really even seen play let alone in the NBA?

why draf Tony Battie as high as 5? Jason Collins, Dampier & Foyle over mcgrady, amare, pierce, artest, kobe and jermaine?

McGrady wasn't heralded as a great player. Isiah saw a diamond in the ruff and unlike MOST OTHER TIMES WITH THESE YOUNG GUYS he was right. Amare was living in a crackhouse and had many gaps in his game as reported. Artest didn't do any one thing particularly well. Kobe was said to be good but could have gone either way....hence the Hornets trade him for Vlade. Jermaine O'Neal sat for years on the bench and hardly saw the light of day. It's a crap shoot. And more often then not these guys are busts. It's a very very very small choosen few who actually are special in this league.

You see, it is easy to valuate talent after it is said and done. Would you have said these things about J. O'Neal the 2nd or 3rd year that he was rotting away in Portland? On the flip side, I could name 10 times the ammount of players that had all the gifts to be special and never ever ever ever panned out. Hell, some aren't even in the league anymore. You're speaking AFTER the fact. If Bynum turned out to be Oliver Miller people will shy away from ever saying that he was going to be great. We can sit here all night long and talk about players that had the hops, the length, the shot (or whatever else) to be special but are living in obscurity now.

Posted by gunsnewing:

rasheed was extremely athletic and has always been a hell of a post defender. Sorry but Frye is neither

Rasheed was NEVER classified as extremely athletic, most of his game was exactly like Frye's. He depended on his length and wasn't very explosive. Rasheed never was any more or less athletic than Frye. Rasheed's post defense wasn't even talked about until 2 years before he was traded to Detroit. In Washington he was labled as a bust and in Portland he had major attitude problems. Say what you want about their physical attributes (which I don't think are very different), their style of playt is VERY similiar.

I hope you're right. If Frye could play D like Rasheed, we've found something. I don't care about his range. I don't want him out past 15 to 20. We've got enough guys who like to shoot 3's.