They improved the past 2yrs while/////

Mark Jackson was fighting past love affairs, coaches, and mgmt

And they won 50+gms last year

Replace Jackson with Kerr and THE TRIANGLE

Olympic experience of both Curry and Klay

Owner passionate about winning a chip

West possibly wide open, maybe they feel 7-12gm improvement from last year and a 1-2seed finish heading into playoffs

VDesai wrote:Jackson disciples on their own haven't been that succesful as head coaches (Cleamons and Rambis are perfect examples), but some Jackson disciples with the real thing lurking in the background gives me a lot more confidence.

fishmike wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Not sure but Dub fans probably feel incredibly optimistic

They improved the past 2yrs while/////

Mark Jackson was fighting past love affairs, coaches, and mgmt

And they won 50+gms last year

Replace Jackson with Kerr and THE TRIANGLE

Olympic experience of both Curry and Klay

Owner passionate about winning a chip

West possibly wide open, maybe they feel 7-12gm improvement from last year and a 1-2seed finish heading into playoffs

So GS adds the triangle and they improve 7-12 games. Knicks do the same and you have them losing 5 more games than the year before.

I guess if we had more guys going to the Olympics we would be better?

Okay let me post in Reality

I think the Warriors win about 48gms not sure where they'll seed at

Maybe you caught the drift

While we may like our coaching staff better, might give us slight edge adding Cleamons

At the end of the day do we see a markedly improved Warriors team

I'd like to think this Warriors team will be better if not as good

As the Warrior team who pushed the Spurs to 6gms in the Semis 2yrs ago right?

Isn't this how it works

Triangle factor and then compare 2yrs ago

Also, people shouldn't assume Kerr wants to run the triangle. I will assume that not trading klay/lee for love/martin was dumb.

VDesai wrote:Jackson disciples on their own haven't been that succesful as head coaches (Cleamons and Rambis are perfect examples), but some Jackson disciples with the real thing lurking in the background gives me a lot more confidence.

They might not have what it takes to be successful head coaches but they can still be good consiglieri to a head coach. Phil being in the background means that Fisher has a great support system down the line. Fisher doesn't have to be looking over his shoulder, he knows that these guys have his back which should make it easier for him to do his job.

Doesn't necessarily mean Fisher will be a good coach, but having assts he trusts and Phil there to guide him gives Fisher a better chance of succeeding.

I think Cleamons and Rambis would be NY bound regardless of who got the job.

I like GSW's roster better than ours for now. I'd be curious how they solve rim defense and spacing between DLee and Bogut (that joint) on the offense.

nixluva wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

nixluva wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Not sure but Dub fans probably feel incredibly optimistic

They improved the past 2yrs while/////

Mark Jackson was fighting past love affairs, coaches, and mgmt

And they won 50+gms last year

Replace Jackson with Kerr and THE TRIANGLE

Olympic experience of both Curry and Klay

Owner passionate about winning a chip

West possibly wide open, maybe they feel 7-12gm improvement from last year and a 1-2seed finish heading into playoffs

How is the West "wide open"? You think the Warriors can finish 1 or 2 in the West?

Who is clearly better than the Warriors if you factor in the Triangle?

Keep in mind only 8gms separated them from being a 2 seed

Adding Livingston and Rush along with Barnes having a breakout season why not?

Does the Triangle affect only work on the East team and not the West

The West isn't wide open as you stated. It's freakin tough and congested with good teams. They had 7 50 win teams and Dallas won 49!!! GS was a 6 seed and it was a really close fight but let's not make stuff up about it being wide open. If they struggle even a little bit to adjust to this new style of play that could be huge and keep them from being a 1 or 2 seed as you seem to think they have a chance to do. You're talking about a 60 win team. You can't have a slow start so better hope Kerr gets this right.

Why are you high on the impact of the Triangle with the Warriors and not the Knicks? The Warriors are a very good team. It's hard to know how much the Triangle will impact their roster. Kerr isn't going to run a strict Triangle Offense. He's doing a kind of hybrid thing. He's using other sets like "Horns". It will be very interesting to see how he does things. His team is slanted towards the PG spot and he's gonna have to have an offense where his PG can have the ball in his hands, which is counter to the Triangle's normal focus.

The Knicks situation is different. This team underachieved and has a lot of room to improve having NOTHING to do with the Triangle!!! If they simply played up to their abilities like they did to close out the year they would've won a ton more games. They showed that by going 16-7 to finish the year with no Triangle involved. This is part of what we've been trying to tell you. The Knicks have a huge upside compared to what we saw last year. Better leadership, players, coaching and system are a lot of areas of improvement. GS was closer to their max than the Knicks where. The impact of changes may not be as great since they already were playing well. Still it's possible that GS could improve a lot and everything goes perfectly. Just remember that they play in the West and not the East. Even with the East getting a little better they're not as good as the teams in the West.

Thats the same thing as being wide open, when damn near the entire 8 playoffs teams have a legit shot. If 7 of the 8 teams have 50 wins, that's wide open.

On the other hand, i haven't seen a tight eastern conference race since the 99 lockout, when the difference between 1st and 8th seed was 5 games.

I tell you what, this is the first time i have ever seen a Pres assemble an entire coaching staff.
It's always been, Prez gets GM, GM gets coach, and Coach gets his assistants. I could be wrong, maybe Pat riley might be the exception, but certainly a first for this franchise.

F500ONE wrote:

nixluva wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

nixluva wrote:

F500ONE wrote:Not sure but Dub fans probably feel incredibly optimistic

They improved the past 2yrs while/////

Mark Jackson was fighting past love affairs, coaches, and mgmt

And they won 50+gms last year

Replace Jackson with Kerr and THE TRIANGLE

Olympic experience of both Curry and Klay

Owner passionate about winning a chip

West possibly wide open, maybe they feel 7-12gm improvement from last year and a 1-2seed finish heading into playoffs

How is the West "wide open"? You think the Warriors can finish 1 or 2 in the West?

Who is clearly better than the Warriors if you factor in the Triangle?

Keep in mind only 8gms separated them from being a 2 seed

Adding Livingston and Rush along with Barnes having a breakout season why not?

Does the Triangle affect only work on the East team and not the West

The West isn't wide open as you stated. It's freakin tough and congested with good teams. They had 7 50 win teams and Dallas won 49!!! GS was a 6 seed and it was a really close fight but let's not make stuff up about it being wide open. If they struggle even a little bit to adjust to this new style of play that could be huge and keep them from being a 1 or 2 seed as you seem to think they have a chance to do. You're talking about a 60 win team. You can't have a slow start so better hope Kerr gets this right.

Why are you high on the impact of the Triangle with the Warriors and not the Knicks? The Warriors are a very good team. It's hard to know how much the Triangle will impact their roster. Kerr isn't going to run a strict Triangle Offense. He's doing a kind of hybrid thing. He's using other sets like "Horns". It will be very interesting to see how he does things. His team is slanted towards the PG spot and he's gonna have to have an offense where his PG can have the ball in his hands, which is counter to the Triangle's normal focus.

The Knicks situation is different. This team underachieved and has a lot of room to improve having NOTHING to do with the Triangle!!! If they simply played up to their abilities like they did to close out the year they would've won a ton more games. They showed that by going 16-7 to finish the year with no Triangle involved. This is part of what we've been trying to tell you. The Knicks have a huge upside compared to what we saw last year. Better leadership, players, coaching and system are a lot of areas of improvement. GS was closer to their max than the Knicks where. The impact of changes may not be as great since they already were playing well. Still it's possible that GS could improve a lot and everything goes perfectly. Just remember that they play in the West and not the East. Even with the East getting a little better they're not as good as the teams in the West.

If you go look back at our previous seasons, the back half

You'll see some similar trends

You're now allowing the finish to shape your overall perspective of the team

I'm not, you are what your record says you are

If the West is what you say it is, in terms of competitive balance

Well we play 32 of our games against many of those juggernauts

Hence if Warriors will struggle out that way

No room for slippage even more so for us

That leaves the East

Let me guess you feel we'll run through our Conference with ease

Okay so when I showed how we did last year in splits across conferences

Asking to place victories where you feel so confidently in improvements/////

Why not say who we'll season best against

We'll surely have to win several season series in the East, you realize this correct?

The West being "wide open" IMO means any team after the Spurs has a legit shot

If things break right, there wasn't great separation between 2-8

You realize the Dallas team you laud Jose playing on

Taking the Spurs to 7gms, was an 8th seed right

I see what you guys are saying. Perhaps in my mind I just didn't quite understand the term wide open properly. For some reason for me I was taking it to be a very tough conference where you really can't have any hiccups and expect to have a chance to be a 1 or 2 seed. You pretty much have to be on point to get that high cuz the level of competition is stiff. I do get the point that all the teams are good and much closer in talent level and thus you could say any team is capable of moving up. Yes if things break right any team could move up. I do believe tho that there's no margin for error. A team like GS trying all this new stuff with a new coach won't have the luxury of stumbling out the gate of they'll drop real fast and may not be able to catch up.

GS has to be careful not to be caught from behind as well. It's not a static situation. So while they are hoping to make advances they have other good teams that aren't that far off from them. Not much separation from GS, Mem, Dal and Phx. Like I said they can't stumble for any serious period of time.

Western 	W 	L 	PCT 	GB 	CONF 	DIV 	HOME 	ROAD 	L 10 	STREAK
San Antonio 	62 	20 	0.756 	0.0 	38-14 	12-4 	32-9 	30-11 	6-4 	L 2
Oklahoma City 	59 	23 	0.720 	3.0 	36-16 	11-5 	34-7 	25-16 	6-4 	W 1
L.A. Clippers 	57 	25 	0.695 	5.0 	36-16 	12-4 	34-7 	23-18 	7-3 	L 1
Houston 	54 	28 	0.659 	8.0 	31-21 	11-5 	33-8 	21-20 	5-5 	L 1
Portland        54 	28 	0.659 	8.0 	31-21 	13-3 	31-10 	23-18 	9-1 	W 5
Golden State    51 	31 	0.622 	11.0 	31-21 	11-5 	27-14 	24-17 	6-4 	W 2
Memphis 	50 	32 	0.610 	12.0 	29-23 	4-12 	27-14 	23-18 	7-3 	W 5
Dallas 	        49 	33 	0.598 	13.0 	29-23 	9-7 	26-15 	23-18 	6-4 	L 1
Phoenix 	48 	34 	0.585 	14.0 	28-24 	8-8 	26-15 	22-19 	5-5 	W 1