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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
![]() A glorified Trevor Ariza!
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
![]() smackeddog wrote:A glorified Trevor Ariza!That is who draftnet compared him to. NBA Comparison: Trevor Ariza/Danny Granger http://www.nbadraft.net/players/paul-george I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
![]() ChuckBuck wrote:Yeah but Stephenson is 4 years younger then Andy. Maybe he could have been moved in the Melo trade if the Knicks drafted him. Then all past sins of his would be forgotten and he would be memorialized forever as a symbol of building the right way.CrushAlot wrote:Forgot the Pacers got Stephenson in that draft. Makes me wonder where Andy Rautins is playing. Its pretty hard to come out of a draft with a guy that is old and sucks. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27405 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
![]() CrushAlot wrote:Forgot the Pacers got Stephenson in that draft. Makes me wonder where Andy Rautins is playing. Its pretty hard to come out of a draft with a guy that is old and sucks. Am I the only one that believed in Rautins? He reminds me a lot of Marco Bellinelli, whose game I liked a lot through the years. If Rautins was healthy and given the opportunity, I think he would've shocked a lot of people. |
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
![]() NardDogNation wrote:I hated the pick. Rautins was a reach for even a second round pick. No upside and old. I think at the time Walsh was trying to bring in guys with four years experience that were high character guys because of who his coach was. The fact that Rautins could hit the three also made it appear to me at the time that he was picked for the coach. Leo and D'Antoni were playing professionally in Italy at the same time and I always wondered if that connection had something to do with his being drafted by the Knicks. I always felt the Knicks could have invited Rautins to training camp and not used a pick on him if they really saw something there.CrushAlot wrote:Forgot the Pacers got Stephenson in that draft. Makes me wonder where Andy Rautins is playing. Its pretty hard to come out of a draft with a guy that is old and sucks. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
![]() CrushAlot wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I hated the pick. Rautins was a reach for even a second round pick. No upside and old. I think at the time Walsh was trying to bring in guys with four years experience that were high character guys because of who his coach was. The fact that Rautins could hit the three also made it appear to me at the time that he was picked for the coach. Leo and D'Antoni were playing professionally in Italy at the same time and I always wondered if that connection had something to do with his being drafted by the Knicks. I always felt the Knicks could have invited Rautins to training camp and not used a pick on him if they really saw something there.CrushAlot wrote:Forgot the Pacers got Stephenson in that draft. Makes me wonder where Andy Rautins is playing. Its pretty hard to come out of a draft with a guy that is old and sucks. Stephenson killed us in the playoffs- take him out of the series, and we might even have won it. Would he have become the player he is today if we'd drafted him? I'm really not sure- he had a really rough start on and off the court (remember when he pushed his girlfriend down the stairs and people were saying how glad they were we didn't draft him?). Would love to have him on the team, but I doubt we would have had the patience to develop him. |
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
![]() smackeddog wrote:I think his incident with his girlfriend was before his first training camp. He had the talent but didn't seem like he fit the mold of guys that would be successful with D'Antoni/Walsh.CrushAlot wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I hated the pick. Rautins was a reach for even a second round pick. No upside and old. I think at the time Walsh was trying to bring in guys with four years experience that were high character guys because of who his coach was. The fact that Rautins could hit the three also made it appear to me at the time that he was picked for the coach. Leo and D'Antoni were playing professionally in Italy at the same time and I always wondered if that connection had something to do with his being drafted by the Knicks. I always felt the Knicks could have invited Rautins to training camp and not used a pick on him if they really saw something there.CrushAlot wrote:Forgot the Pacers got Stephenson in that draft. Makes me wonder where Andy Rautins is playing. Its pretty hard to come out of a draft with a guy that is old and sucks. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Papabear
Posts: 24373 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 3/31/2007 Member: #1414 |
![]() Papabear Says
Paul George a $90 million dollar contract?? He should have showed his worth when they played Miami and he was missing in action. Three time alstar?? But I say to Paul George get all you can because you are just one injury away from being cut. Grab that money. Oh by the way his assist is only 3.7 and field goal pct went to his lowest 419 since he's been in the league. You know some haters come up with crazy numbers thinking no one is gonna check Papabear
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() Papabear wrote:Papabear Says
Sans Danny Granger, who was once considered to be their best player, the Indiana Pacers are on the verge of advancing past the New York Knicks and into the Eastern Conference Finals. And while they depended upon the underrated talents of George Hill, the leadership of David West and the inconsistent stylings of Roy Hibbert, it's George who they have ridden into prominence.
At only 23 and now with an All-Star selection to his name, George was considered a rising star. And rightfully so. He had become just the 10th player in NBA history to average at least 16 points, seven rebounds, four assists and 1.5 steals per game before his 24th birthday. It was a feat that put him in the company of Larry Bird, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James and Magic Johnson, among others. It was special. And he was rewarded for it. George was named the NBA's Most Improved Player, much to the surprise of any Jrue Holiday supporters, but generally applauded all the same. That, along with his All-Star credentials, should have been enough. We should have been sold. But not everyone was. Although his accomplishments gave him star status, there was still something (unjustly) separating himself from the rest of the league's superstars—postseason success. Not in the sense that he had to win a championship (see Carmelo Anthony), but that he had to prove he was worth building around. Could the Pacers contend in the postseason with him as their primary identity? Could he lead his team to some measure of postseason success? Was he worthy of a max contract, or was he perhaps a prolific facade?
This side of the lockout, it's become common practice to scrutinize the potential of any players entering the last legs of their rookie contracts. The Denver Nuggets (Ty Lawson), Golden State Warriors (Stephen Curry) and Philadelphia 76ers (Jrue Holiday) all exercised extreme caution when it came to assessing the market value of their prized prospects. No such trepidation is needed when it comes to George, though. He's not on the cusp of stardom; he's there. What he's actually on the precipice of is being compensated like one. Anyone who watched George knows he wasn't feigning stardom or was some flash in the pan that would disappear overnight, or even next season. George was for real. Playoff success now in hand, arguments to the contrary are less than feeble. Once again, we find George pitting himself next to Hall of Famers like Magic, Bird, Scottie Pippen and Clyde Drexler, as well as future Hall of Famers like LeBron and Garnett. It's not just his individual numbers either, but what he has meant to the Pacers all year, especially now.
Anthony is averaging 26 points per game in the series, but is shooting just 40.9 percent of the field. And he's fared even worse when George is defending him. Per ESPN Stats & Information (via Brian Windhorst of ESPN.com), 'Melo is shooting just 32 percent from the floor when being defended by George, a number that has aided in the debilitation of the Knicks offense. 'Melo's shooting woes attest to George's superior length and overall defensive capabilities. Few players in the league can legitimately be considered two-way stars, yet he's one of them, which shouldn't be a surprise. USA TODAY Sports "He's got length and good feet and he's never really out of position even when he gets beat he's in the rear view contesting the shot," West said of his teammate (via Windhorst). "Melo is the best 1-on-1 player in the league, he can get shots from anywhere and he can make shots from anywhere. And PG embraces that challenge." He's always embraced "that challenge." But because he doesn't play in Miami, New York or Los Angeles, he hasn't garnered the same praise as some of peers. And it's left many surprised at how complete a player he really is. Is Paul George worthy of a max contract? Any who have believed otherwise have missed out. Those who disagree are still missing out and depriving themselves the opportunity to embrace the NBA's next max superstar. That's what George is, after all, a superstar—a warranted status his next contract is destined to reflect.
George battled Lebron James down to the very end in a very close series, defending one of the most physically talented, skilled, and versatile, players in the history of the entire NBA, and delivered often hitting clutch shots when needed on him as well He did what was best for his team, not what was best for his STATS, he does NOT play with a MEMEMEME attitude, and he continues to work on ALL PARTS OF HIS GAME, and that is what separates him from CA, both physically, all round skills, and mentally Oh, he is also much younger and makes much less, while George is only going to get better... |
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
![]() Papabear wrote:Papabear Says He had 4.1 assists, which is pretty good. Shooting percentage is his biggest weakness though. |