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Who is the better prospect...Gallo or Shump....


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holfresh
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Wow...These are tow of the better rooks we have had over the last 5 years...Throw Will the Thrill in there for a little love...But who are we more excited about...Gallo I think still has a huge upside...This is a big year for him...It's said you know what a player is going to be in their 4th year...It's still early for Shump but it looks like he could be a solid all around player...A very poor man's Wade if you will...

11 votes
23.91%
D. Gallinari
23 votes
50%
I. Shumpert
1 votes
2.17%
W. Chandler
2 votes
4.35%
Too touchy a topic still
9 votes
19.57%
Too early to call


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gunsnewing
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1/10/2012  6:35 PM
Shump better all around. Well ahead of Gallo as a rookie
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1/10/2012  6:38 PM
It's tough to say which is the better prospect, but for this team I would rather have a poor man's Wade than a poor man's Nowitzki. So shump it is.
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knicks1248
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1/10/2012  6:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2012  6:52 PM
Both are good quality players, depending on your need, i would take either, no preference..

If we stood the draft develope player course, our team would look something like


Timmy
Lee
Gallo
shrump
Nate (who's a better pg the Douglas)

Chandler
douglas
hill
And fill in any super star/vey good player.. with the cap space we would have had.

Thats talent, flexible cap space and some very good young players( With the exception of nate), good character guys as well.

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1/10/2012  6:52 PM
too early.
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1/10/2012  6:55 PM

In his first 3 seasons Gallo's field goal percentage actually dropped.

In his first 2 starts, Shumpert has made the guys around him better. Both were wins. A good sign.

Danilo was a fan favorite for his long range and good looks.

Shump is a fan favorite because he is not Toney Douglas and looks for the alley oop.

Gallinari has played 181 NBA games

Shumpert has played a grand total of 6 (with no Summer League, a quickie training camp and 2 pre season scrimmages with the Nets)

you do the math

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ChuckBuck
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1/10/2012  6:57 PM
Shumpert, Gallo doesn't play a lick of D.
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1/10/2012  7:00 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Both are good quality players, depending on your need, i would take either, no preference..

If we stood the draft develope player course, our team would look something like


Timmy
Lee
Gallo
shrump
Nate (who's a better pg the Douglas)

Chandler
douglas
hill
And fill in any super star/vey good player.. with the cap space we would have had.

Thats talent, flexible cap space and some very good young players( With the exception of nate), good character guys as well.


That roster would probably never make the playoffs. Gallo is a more unique player than shump but gallo has not taken his game to the next level. Shump currently has more upside.
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1/10/2012  7:03 PM
I'll take shump..better two way player
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1/10/2012  7:17 PM
crzymdups wrote:too early.

This

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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1/10/2012  7:21 PM
I like both players. Gallo is a VERY good player. He's getting more confident and comfortable with the NBA game and lifestyle. I think he played with more passion in NY. He was still naive to the realities of the NBA. Now after being traded, he looks all business out there. He knows now that it's just a business.

Shump has that rah, rah spirit that Gallo used to have. He's all fired up for the team the city. I think both have a high upside. Both are in great situations for their talents. Gallo fits in Denver and Shump fits in NY. Shump has very high physical talent and Gallo has great talent for a guy his size. It's a toss up really, but I'm happy with Shump cuz we needed what he brings. We've need a guard that can get to the basket and finish for a long time now. We really needed a defensive guard desperately. Both players have/had a positive impact on the teams ability to win games.

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1/10/2012  7:26 PM
Seriously?

A 6.10 guy who at different points in time could be league top 5 in 3 pts with a broken back, then in free throwed attempted the year after that and is now ranked 6 in dunks attempted and is a foul magnet?

A guy that is unselfish, can dribble, pass and has a high bball IQ?

A guy that all other team commentators can't stop raving about since he's been traded from the knicks?

And you're comparing him to a rookie that has 5 games under his belt against mediocre teams while playing hidden behind 3 stars?

WOW.

And thinking I had seen everything about overhyping...

LOL.

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1/10/2012  8:44 PM
raven wrote:Seriously?

A 6.10 guy who at different points in time could be league top 5 in 3 pts with a broken back, then in free throwed attempted the year after that and is now ranked 6 in dunks attempted and is a foul magnet?

A guy that is unselfish, can dribble, pass and has a high bball IQ?

A guy that all other team commentators can't stop raving about since he's been traded from the knicks?

And you're comparing him to a rookie that has 5 games under his belt against mediocre teams while playing hidden behind 3 stars?

WOW.

And thinking I had seen everything about overhyping...

LOL.

Yep..you can. Nothing wrong with it. Gallo was too inconsistent for my taste and missed so many open shots it's crazy people call him a knock down shooter. He led league in 3pts taken if I'm not mistaken. It wasn't for accuracy.

I don't see a difference in Gallo's time here in his shot selection vs. Shumperts.

Shump Can Dribble, Pass and also has a high bball IQ from what I've seen and Plays defense 10x better then Gallo..although Gallo's defense was underrated.

And it's easy to hide behind 3 stars but is that what Shump is really doing? It shows how talented he is that he can stand out amongst 3 stars.

It's okay to pick Gallo but no need to make it seem it's a stretch for someone to pick Shumpert after 5 games. Is Shumpert all of a sudden gonna stink at Defense or being aggressive?

FoeDiddy
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1/10/2012  8:52 PM
Gallo has shot 42.5% from the field in his career..37% from 3 in his career. This from a "Sharp Shooter"? 4.5 Rebounds from a 6'11 guy. 1.6 assist.

So you don't think Shump can equal this or even easily surpass any of those stats?

Panos
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1/10/2012  8:57 PM
Well we know that Gallo has stiff legs, so...
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1/10/2012  8:59 PM
I was a huge Gallo supporter, really pulled for him and thought he showed killer instinct at times and flashes of top notch play. He is capable of leading the league in 3PT shooting for sure. He responds to a challenge and plays hard. However sometimes he took halves or nights off, or simply camped at the 3-pt line for stretches. We haven't seen that from Shump yet but it's a long season. It would surprise me somewhat given his nonstop motor and hungry approach to games so far. I really like Shumpert and think he'll be the better NBA player, barring big injuries, etc.

Shump is already an elite defender (on ball and help), good enough to take another team's lead guard out of his game and help shut down the opponent's offensive flow. He has shown uncanny timing and confidence guarding guys. He is way more athletic than Gallo and operates at a much higher speed and elevation. He can get other guys going better than Gallo, though Gallo is a decent passer and moves the ball. Shump is already more polished in a lot of ways where Gallo still in year three had a slightly clumsy/spastic streak that would occasionally surface.

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1/10/2012  9:01 PM
raven wrote:Seriously?

A 6.10 guy who at different points in time could be league top 5 in 3 pts with a broken back, then in free throwed attempted the year after that and is now ranked 6 in dunks attempted and is a foul magnet?

A guy that is unselfish, can dribble, pass and has a high bball IQ?

A guy that all other team commentators can't stop raving about since he's been traded from the knicks?

And you're comparing him to a rookie that has 5 games under his belt against mediocre teams while playing hidden behind 3 stars?

WOW.

And thinking I had seen everything about overhyping...

LOL.

We've seen enough in Gallo's 3 years plus to know his career arc...Andrea Bargnani. I'd rather have a 2 way player with off the charts potential than the next Andrea Bargnani. As a comparison, Dirk Nowitzki when he in his 4th season, averaged 24 pts / 10 rebounds / 85% ft / 40% 3pt. and elected to the first of 10 straight All Star Games. I think it's safe to say that neither Gallo nor Bargnani will be the next "Dirk".

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1/10/2012  9:04 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
raven wrote:Seriously?

A 6.10 guy who at different points in time could be league top 5 in 3 pts with a broken back, then in free throwed attempted the year after that and is now ranked 6 in dunks attempted and is a foul magnet?

A guy that is unselfish, can dribble, pass and has a high bball IQ?

A guy that all other team commentators can't stop raving about since he's been traded from the knicks?

And you're comparing him to a rookie that has 5 games under his belt against mediocre teams while playing hidden behind 3 stars?

WOW.

And thinking I had seen everything about overhyping...

LOL.

We've seen enough in Gallo's 3 years plus to know his career arc...Andrea Bargnani. I'd rather have a 2 way player with off the charts potential than the next Andrea Bargnani. As a comparison, Dirk Nowitzki when he in his 4th season, averaged 24 pts / 10 rebounds / 85% ft / 40% 3pt. and elected to the first of 10 straight All Star Games. I think it's safe to say that neither Gallo nor Bargnani will be the next "Dirk".

This is a insult to Bargs actually...Gallo is not in Bargs league. Gallo is a poor man's Bargs.

By the Way I liked Gallo as a player but don't see him touching Shumperts Talent.

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1/10/2012  9:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2012  9:14 PM
FoeDiddy wrote:Gallo has shot 42.5% from the field in his career..37% from 3 in his career. This from a "Sharp Shooter"? 4.5 Rebounds from a 6'11 guy. 1.6 assist.

So you don't think Shump can equal this or even easily surpass any of those stats?


Agreed. Gallo is no way near the sharpshooter most make/made him out to be.

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1/10/2012  9:22 PM
Was Allan Houston a sharp shooter? He had plenty of years where he shot around 42%. You should be looking at true shooting percentage anyway. Gallo is in the upper .500s, which is where the best in the league typically are. All that said, I still voted for Shumpert. I just think people are not appreciating here how efficient a scorer Gallo is. Because he makes so many threes and hits a high percentage of his free throws, basic FG% underestimates his offensive efficiency.
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1/11/2012  12:28 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Was Allan Houston a sharp shooter? He had plenty of years where he shot around 42%. You should be looking at true shooting percentage anyway. Gallo is in the upper .500s, which is where the best in the league typically are. All that said, I still voted for Shumpert. I just think people are not appreciating here how efficient a scorer Gallo is. Because he makes so many threes and hits a high percentage of his free throws, basic FG% underestimates his offensive efficiency.

It's understandable why people aren't thinking Gallo was efficient. There was a time, not long ago, when over half of his shots taken were 3s. All he did was settle. At some point in the middle of last season, before he was traded, all of this stopped and he added much more to his game.

The guy is going to be much more than a 42% shooter. It's just frustrating that the guy hasn't added a mid range game to his arsenal.

Which is why I will choose Shumpert. The guy plays better D', can get to the rim when he wants and seems to be utilizing a nice mid range game. This isn't a package that is frequently found in the NBA. Plus his passing seems to be pretty good. Shumpert has better upside. I say that, and I love Gallo.

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Who is the better prospect...Gallo or Shump....

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