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Nalod
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Don't have t justify anything. Just simple question:

10 minutes to go before trading deadline. Denver has agreed to take either Gallo or Wilson.

Money is not an issue here. Pretend there are no contract considerations. If you can't, vote as such.

7 votes
15.56%
Keep Wilson
38 votes
84.44%
Keep Gallo
0 votes
0%
Money and trade consideratoins are too important so I can't decide. Logic would dictate my preferace (Providing you have some).


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jrodmc
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1/28/2011  2:02 PM
I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.
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1/28/2011  2:08 PM
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ, collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.

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1/28/2011  2:29 PM
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

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1/28/2011  2:33 PM
He's got a stronger will to win, better stroke, more range, great defense (like Wil), 6'11", toughness, finishing ability...everything we need. He's still developing. I think Wilson is near his ceiling.
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1/28/2011  2:34 PM
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

I don't usually say anything about another mans post but...are you serious?

Gallo averages 6-7 FTs a game.
Aside from his rookie year when Tractor Trailor mauled him, when exactly did he show he was fragile?
He is a forward not a PG and if you pay attention to his game you will understand why great passer/facilitator is used when describing Gallo.

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1/28/2011  2:36 PM
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

Chandler is in his 5th year as a pro Gallo is just in his second

Gallo is a better shooter with out any doubt's!!
Better FT shooter!!
Better Passer
Taller!!
Longer!
Dunks are a wash betweeen both!!

D is also a wash!!

Gallo is not scared of the moment Chandler most times looks soft!!

Gallo is CLUTCH Wilson is more consistent but also gets way more touches!!

Gallo is the keeper here!!

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1/28/2011  2:42 PM
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

Nobody says they dislike Wil or his game. In fact most would prefer not gutting the team for Melo.

Most really do like Wil.

Both are as consistant or inconsistant as the other.

Team needs to make changes and one or that other will be traded.

Melo at the right price would be great. SOme of us just feel Gallo would be a better fit.

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1/28/2011  2:51 PM
Moonangie wrote:He's got a stronger will to win, better stroke, more range, great defense (like Wil), 6'11", toughness, finishing ability...everything we need. He's still developing. I think Wilson is near his ceiling.

A stronger will to win? How exactly do you measure that? Facial gestures? Finishing ability??? Is that like finishing potential? As opposed to Wils finishing, period? Toughness? how long did that wrist take to get in synch, again? And Gallo's just getting his teeth knocked out every other day, right? Gallo would have been right back in the game next day, right? Cmon.

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1/28/2011  6:49 PM
I love both Chandler and Gallo. Both have progressed into fine players and play hard.

If we are trading for Melo though, the player most like Melo is Chandler. Melo will replace Chandler in the lineup and position so Chandler is the one to trade. Gallo has other skills which complement Melo or Chandler. (Everything that is said in everyone's previous posts.)

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1/28/2011  8:10 PM
umynot wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

Chandler is in his 5th year as a pro Gallo is just in his second

Gallo is a better shooter with out any doubt's!!
Better FT shooter!!
Better Passer
Taller!!
Longer!
Dunks are a wash betweeen both!!

D is also a wash!!

Gallo is not scared of the moment Chandler most times looks soft!!

Gallo is CLUTCH Wilson is more consistent but also gets way more touches!!

Gallo is the keeper here!!

/thread

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1/28/2011  8:53 PM
here's a simple answer... Melo is 5 times better than either one of these guys so it really doesn't matter to me which one you give up to get him here.
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1/28/2011  10:27 PM
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

1) gallo can drive better than wil, can go either direction, draws more fouls which is better than just scoring, and can shoot the three ball.
2) he's only been in the league for two plus seasons and missed one of them so to plurleyes season is just not accurate.
3) because he's not a point guard but a better passer than wil is a fact.

seems like your not just partial to wil but that you dislike gallo altogether imo.

Let the Linsanity ensue!!!!!!
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1/28/2011  10:33 PM
umynot wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

Chandler is in his 5th year as a pro Gallo is just in his second

Gallo is a better shooter with out any doubt's!!
Better FT shooter!!
Better Passer
Taller!!
Longer!
Dunks are a wash betweeen both!!

D is also a wash!!

Gallo is not scared of the moment Chandler most times looks soft!!

Gallo is CLUTCH Wilson is more consistent but also gets way more touches!!

Gallo

i like wilson as well but this^ pretty much sums it up, if he keeps progressing by his 5th year, he will potentially have allstar numbers and have more of an impact on games. Neither are #1 options imo but gallo is my pick for a #2 or #3 over gallo for his ability to impact the game when he is in a shooting slump.

Let the Linsanity ensue!!!!!!
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1/28/2011  10:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2011  10:42 PM
umynot wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
martin wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I don't understand the Gallo fascination here. He's more fragile, streakier and less multi-dimensional than Wils.

It's always so stupid to argue with the owner. I should know better. I should stop with that thought, but then:

He's a smarter player, has higher bball IQ , collects fouls more, more clutch, better passer/facilitator.


Sure sign of a weak argument: saying the same thing twice.

1) Collecting fouls - Gallo's a spot up jump shooter. Wil slashes and finishes clean. Let's think lower of Wil because he actually has moves beyond a stupid H20 jab step to get open looks.
2) More clutch - not as useful when you miss full seasons or parts of seasons at a time -- see more fragile.
3) If he's such asset at dimes production, why are we all crying for a backup PG?

Chandler is in his 5th year as a pro Gallo is just in his second

Gallo is a better shooter with out any doubt's!!
Better FT shooter!!
Better Passer
Taller!!
Longer!
Dunks are a wash betweeen both!!

D is also a wash!!

Gallo is not scared of the moment Chandler most times looks soft!!

Gallo is CLUTCH Wilson is more consistent but also gets way more touches!!

Gallo is the keeper here!!


Chandler is in his fourth year in the nba and Gallinari is in his third. They are only one year a part in age and nba experience. Chandler scores more, rebounds more, blocks more shots can play three positions and start or come off the bench. Chandler doesn't ever look soft in my opinion, he is just not as demonstrative on the court as Gallo. Being demonstrative doesn't make you a star and it doesn't mean that it means more to you. I think you have to look at both of these guys games and make a decision. These guys are both very good players. I generally would vote for Chandler but there are nights where Gallo is so impressive that I think Chandler should go.
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1/28/2011  10:48 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Chandler is in his fourth year in the nba and Gallinari is in his third. They are only one year a part in age and nba experience. Chandler scores more, rebounds more, blocks more shots can play three positions and start or come off the bench. Chandler doesn't ever look soft in my opinion, he is just not as demonstrative on the court as Gallo. Being demonstrative doesn't make you a star and it doesn't mean that it means more to you. I think you have to look at both of these guys games and make a decision. These guys are both very good players. I generally would vote for Chandler but there are nights where Gallo is so impressive that I think Chandler should go.

good post... i agree w/everything u said here... i like both these guys & they both do some things better than the other guy & vice versa, & both obviously have limitations in their games as well... Gallo's more demonstrative after he makes a big shot so i think guys get the impression that somehow he cares more than Wilson does, who rarely shows any emotion at all... but anyone who watches Wilson when he's on his game knows he plays with just as much passion & intensity as anyone else... u don't need to pump ur chest or yell & scream to the crowd after made dunks & blocked shots to show you're emotionally into a game.

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1/31/2011  9:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2011  9:44 AM
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Chandler is in his fourth year in the nba and Gallinari is in his third. They are only one year a part in age and nba experience. Chandler scores more, rebounds more, blocks more shots can play three positions and start or come off the bench. Chandler doesn't ever look soft in my opinion, he is just not as demonstrative on the court as Gallo. Being demonstrative doesn't make you a star and it doesn't mean that it means more to you. I think you have to look at both of these guys games and make a decision. These guys are both very good players. I generally would vote for Chandler but there are nights where Gallo is so impressive that I think Chandler should go.

good post... i agree w/everything u said here... i like both these guys & they both do some things better than the other guy & vice versa, & both obviously have limitations in their games as well... Gallo's more demonstrative after he makes a big shot so i think guys get the impression that somehow he cares more than Wilson does, who rarely shows any emotion at all... but anyone who watches Wilson when he's on his game knows he plays with just as much passion & intensity as anyone else... u don't need to pump ur chest or yell & scream to the crowd after made dunks & blocked shots to show you're emotionally into a game.

2 excellent posts. To me, Gallo is a taller, more injury prone version of H2O. I'm partial to Wil's game because of his durability, the flat line game face (as opposed to the aforementioned demonstrativity of Gallo) and his versatility, and actual toughness. I don't understand how Gallo drives better than Wil, but maybe I'm not watching the same game clips as other people, and maybe Gallo's just not as injury prone as he seems to be to me.

Plus, Wil provided DLee with a gaping hack wound, and that just garners way too many points for Gallo to deal with in my book.

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1/31/2011  9:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2011  9:41 AM
People calling Gallo fragile and Chandler durable are fools.

This is the first year Chandler came to camp healthy, he has had ankle and leg problems every year over his entire career. He played 65 games last year.

Providing Dlee with a 'gaping hack wound', that's a positive for you? That's a mental disorder, wishing and supporting physical harm on human beings. You should be in jail.

Notice how you're only hating on Gallinari, David Lee, who else, Mozgov? Your motives are clear.

Gallinari >> Chandler.

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1/31/2011  9:45 AM
It's obvious there are factors not even related to basketball for why some prefer Danilo Gallinari. I wish I knew what they were.
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1/31/2011  9:52 AM
iSergio wrote:It's obvious there are factors not even related to basketball for why some prefer hate Danilo Gallinari. I wish I knew what they were.

Fixed. And I know what the reason is.

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1/31/2011  9:54 AM
orangeblobman wrote:People calling Gallo fragile and Chandler durable are fools.

This is the first year Chandler came to camp healthy, he has had ankle and leg problems every year over his entire career. He played 65 games last year.

Providing Dlee with a 'gaping hack wound', that's a positive for you? That's a mental disorder, wishing and supporting physical harm on human beings. You should be in jail.

Notice how you're only hating on Gallinari, David Lee, who else, Mozgov? Your motives are clear.

Gallinari >> Chandler.

Did you see the smiley face, mo? You should be in a Hooked on Phonics class. Plus the gaping hack wound in question was an accident, not intentional harm.

And as for your racist conspiracy theory, I happen to be as white as rice. I like Mozgov, I like Pringles. I hate on DLee because he played the type of D that had Debusschere spinning in his grave, and because his life's goals were double/double and no posters at all costs. I also post alot of hate for H20. So what are my motives again? You should also enroll in a PC sensitivity rehab somewhere.

This is an opinion forum, which suffers fools who think missing an entire season and mugging after every 3 and dunk makes you both durable and valuable.

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