[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

How excited about Raymond Felton?


Author Poll
Cosmic
Posts: 6570
Joined: 3/17/2006
Member: #1115
USA
So...how excited are you with Raymond Felton?
11 votes
25%
Perfect Fit. He will break out Granger style.
24 votes
54.55%
He's going to be good.
3 votes
6.82%
Not perfect but acceptable.
3 votes
6.82%
*shrug*
0 votes
0%
Didn't like it.
0 votes
0%
Stupid ass signing.
3 votes
6.82%
Give me Chris Paul+Okafor and let's go to war!


Author Thread
nixluva
Posts: 56258
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/5/2004
Member: #758
USA
7/23/2010  1:57 AM
I think after having to live thru Duhon for 2 years, i'm very excited about Felton. Felton is stronger, faster, more consistent, better Court Vision and he fits our push the ball style of play. We desperately needed to sure up the PG situation and there wasn't anyone better we could've gotten. He's just below the top tier of PG's and has a great pedigree and talent. What's not to like about his being here?
AUTOADVERT
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34062
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127

7/23/2010  2:00 AM
Felton plays best when he's in fifth or sixth gear... he's going to be more than adequate here. That said, I'm not necessarily expecting All Star berths
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
ramtour420
Posts: 26290
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 3/19/2007
Member: #1388
Russian Federation
7/23/2010  4:24 AM
He will trump all expectations, I think. The system here and the supporting cast will bring out his best, imho. Don't be surprised to see a 20/10 PG.
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
jazz74
Posts: 22318
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 12/24/2002
Member: #371
7/23/2010  10:09 AM
ramtour420 wrote:He will trump all expectations, I think. The system here and the supporting cast will bring out his best, imho. Don't be surprised to see a 20/10 PG.

i WILL be surprised to see those numbers. his assists will go up do doubt but scoring is still iffy at best.

nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
7/23/2010  10:15 AM
i actually think he's a perfect fit after watching him play in the uptempo style system at unc.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
Sangfroid
Posts: 24681
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/7/2009
Member: #2784

7/23/2010  10:27 AM
nixluva wrote:I think after having to live thru Duhon for 2 years, i'm very excited about Felton. Felton is stronger, faster, more consistent, better Court Vision and he fits our push the ball style of play. We desperately needed to sure up the PG situation and there wasn't anyone better we could've gotten. He's just below the top tier of PG's and has a great pedigree and talent. What's not to like about his being here?

Yeah, that.

"We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
iSergio
Posts: 21499
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/13/2010
Member: #3043
USA
7/23/2010  10:35 AM
I'll be happy with 15/7 and good D.
Vmart
Posts: 31800
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 5/23/2002
Member: #247
USA
7/23/2010  10:52 AM
I think he gives you Duhon numbers with better defense.
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
7/23/2010  11:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2010  11:06 AM
SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
7/23/2010  11:17 AM
iSergio wrote:I'll be happy with 15/7 and good D.

Duhon avg 8ast in his first 2 month as a knick

ES
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
7/23/2010  11:20 AM
He's going to be very good here. 16ppg 8-9apg, solid leadership and defense.
¿ △ ?
Markji
Posts: 22753
Alba Posts: -4
Joined: 9/14/2007
Member: #1673
USA
7/23/2010  11:27 AM
AnubisADL wrote:SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

Not quite. I like Jennings. He is very young but has matured a lot in his 1 year in Europe; worked on his game; and is a very good young player. But Felton, last year turned the ball over less and had a better Assist /TO ratio.

Felton
2009 - 2010 had 2.1 turnovers/game and 5.6 assists; assist/turnover ratio of 2.65 ranked 17th in the NBA last year.
career 2.6turnovers/game and 6.5 assists; asst/TO = 2.5

Jennings
2009 - 2010 had 2.4 turnovers and 5.6 assists asst/TO = 2.35 and he ranked 34th last year.

The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense. Tom Clancy - author
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
7/23/2010  11:35 AM
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

Not quite. I like Jennings. He is very young but has matured a lot in his 1 year in Europe; worked on his game; and is a very good young player. But Felton, last year turned the ball over less and had a better Assist /TO ratio.

Felton
2009 - 2010 had 2.1 turnovers/game and 5.6 assists; assist/turnover ratio of 2.65 ranked 17th in the NBA last year.
career 2.6turnovers/game and 6.5 assists; asst/TO = 2.5

Jennings
2009 - 2010 had 2.4 turnovers and 5.6 assists asst/TO = 2.35 and he ranked 34th last year.

haha. nice work.

¿ △ ?
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
7/23/2010  11:36 AM
also, i'll add that d'antoni point guards usually have a high turnover rate because of the increased pace. i believe nash usually averages 3-4 turnovers per year. it's just something that's going to happen in a high-paced system.
¿ △ ?
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
7/23/2010  11:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2010  11:42 AM
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

Not quite. I like Jennings. He is very young but has matured a lot in his 1 year in Europe; worked on his game; and is a very good young player. But Felton, last year turned the ball over less and had a better Assist /TO ratio.

Felton
2009 - 2010 had 2.1 turnovers/game and 5.6 assists; assist/turnover ratio of 2.65 ranked 17th in the NBA last year.
career 2.6turnovers/game and 6.5 assists; asst/TO = 2.5

Jennings
2009 - 2010 had 2.4 turnovers and 5.6 assists asst/TO = 2.35 and he ranked 34th last year.

Yea because Larry Brown kept the pace down. I like how you ignore his previous 4 yrs in the league. If you looks at his stats when he is jacking alot of shots his percentages dont look that good. My fear is he will revert to his Pre-Larry Brown stats under D'Antoni.

I think Felton will be solid for us if he stays under control. I dont want him forcing the issue next year. All he needs to do is penetrate and run the offense. If he puts up a solid 15 and 7 I will be thrilled. This talk of 20 and 10 is comical though. Teams already know he likes to drive because he has no jumper.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
Markji
Posts: 22753
Alba Posts: -4
Joined: 9/14/2007
Member: #1673
USA
7/23/2010  11:52 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

Not quite. I like Jennings. He is very young but has matured a lot in his 1 year in Europe; worked on his game; and is a very good young player. But Felton, last year turned the ball over less and had a better Assist /TO ratio.

Felton
2009 - 2010 had 2.1 turnovers/game and 5.6 assists; assist/turnover ratio of 2.65 ranked 17th in the NBA last year.
career 2.6turnovers/game and 6.5 assists; asst/TO = 2.5

Jennings
2009 - 2010 had 2.4 turnovers and 5.6 assists asst/TO = 2.35 and he ranked 34th last year.

Yea because Larry Brown kept the pace down. I like how you ignore his previous 4 yrs in the league. If you looks at his stats when he is jacking alot of shots his percentages dont look that good. My fear is he will revert to his Pre-Larry Brown stats under D'Antoni.

I think Felton will be solid for us if he stays under control. I dont want him forcing the issue next year. All he needs to do is penetrate and run the offense. If he puts up a solid 15 and 7 I will be thrilled. This talk of 20 and 10 is comical though. Teams already know he likes to drive because he has no jumper.

I think 15 and 8 assts is realistic.
he has no jumper
I disagree on the "no". He has an inconsistant jump shot but has worked on it. Last year he hit 38.5% from downtown but only had 2 attempts/game. Larry Brown reigned him in. With the team we have we don't want Felton to be the main shooter. He needs to set up the other players and keep the defense honest with his shot. If he shoots 38.5% from 3 pt range, that is a bonus.
The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense. Tom Clancy - author
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
7/23/2010  12:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/23/2010  12:08 PM
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

Not quite. I like Jennings. He is very young but has matured a lot in his 1 year in Europe; worked on his game; and is a very good young player. But Felton, last year turned the ball over less and had a better Assist /TO ratio.

Felton
2009 - 2010 had 2.1 turnovers/game and 5.6 assists; assist/turnover ratio of 2.65 ranked 17th in the NBA last year.
career 2.6turnovers/game and 6.5 assists; asst/TO = 2.5

Jennings
2009 - 2010 had 2.4 turnovers and 5.6 assists asst/TO = 2.35 and he ranked 34th last year.

Yea because Larry Brown kept the pace down. I like how you ignore his previous 4 yrs in the league. If you looks at his stats when he is jacking alot of shots his percentages dont look that good. My fear is he will revert to his Pre-Larry Brown stats under D'Antoni.

I think Felton will be solid for us if he stays under control. I dont want him forcing the issue next year. All he needs to do is penetrate and run the offense. If he puts up a solid 15 and 7 I will be thrilled. This talk of 20 and 10 is comical though. Teams already know he likes to drive because he has no jumper.

I think 15 and 8 assts is realistic.
he has no jumper
I disagree on the "no". He has an inconsistant jump shot but has worked on it. Last year he hit 38.5% from downtown but only had 2 attempts/game. Larry Brown reigned him in. With the team we have we don't want Felton to be the main shooter. He needs to set up the other players and keep the defense honest with his shot. If he shoots 38.5% from 3 pt range, that is a bonus.

I think you essentially agree with me. I dont want Felton jacking 3's because he isn't good at it. If I can get a Chris Duhon who doesnt miss layups, can pentrate, and defends I will be satisfied.

Felton is going to lose assists to guys like Gallo and Randolph who can also make plays.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
7/23/2010  12:18 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Markji wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:SMH at people really trying to hype Raymond Felton. Doesnt matter who the coach is/was. If Felton was as good as some of you claim he would have had better stats the last 4 yrs. LOL at Larry Brown holding him back.

The man makes more TO's than BRANDON JENNINGS who most here HATED.

Not quite. I like Jennings. He is very young but has matured a lot in his 1 year in Europe; worked on his game; and is a very good young player. But Felton, last year turned the ball over less and had a better Assist /TO ratio.

Felton
2009 - 2010 had 2.1 turnovers/game and 5.6 assists; assist/turnover ratio of 2.65 ranked 17th in the NBA last year.
career 2.6turnovers/game and 6.5 assists; asst/TO = 2.5

Jennings
2009 - 2010 had 2.4 turnovers and 5.6 assists asst/TO = 2.35 and he ranked 34th last year.

Yea because Larry Brown kept the pace down. I like how you ignore his previous 4 yrs in the league. If you looks at his stats when he is jacking alot of shots his percentages dont look that good. My fear is he will revert to his Pre-Larry Brown stats under D'Antoni.

I think Felton will be solid for us if he stays under control. I dont want him forcing the issue next year. All he needs to do is penetrate and run the offense. If he puts up a solid 15 and 7 I will be thrilled. This talk of 20 and 10 is comical though. Teams already know he likes to drive because he has no jumper.

I think 15 and 8 assts is realistic.
he has no jumper
I disagree on the "no". He has an inconsistant jump shot but has worked on it. Last year he hit 38.5% from downtown but only had 2 attempts/game. Larry Brown reigned him in. With the team we have we don't want Felton to be the main shooter. He needs to set up the other players and keep the defense honest with his shot. If he shoots 38.5% from 3 pt range, that is a bonus.

I think you essentially agree with me. I dont want Felton jacking 3's because he isn't good at it. If I can get a Chris Duhon who doesnt miss layups, can pentrate, and defends I will be satisfied.

Felton is going to lose assists to guys like Gallo and Randolph who can also make plays.

To say you don't want him jacking up 3's in MDA'S system, is as far fetch as it comes..thats what he wants, thats what he tells he's players to do, 1st avaailable shot, lock, load, and launch.

ES
How excited about Raymond Felton?

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy