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Most people say we can't win in all without an SUPERSTAR!


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playa2
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Is stephon Marbury a "SUPERSTAR"
4 votes
33.33%
No, he's a ball hog who will rock the crowd but that's it
8 votes
66.67%
yes ,and will take us to the finals


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playa2
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1/5/2004  5:58 PM
Most of you guys say we won't win a title without a superstar, well home boy is here and if he doesn't make everybody better who ya gonna blame KVH? HOUSTON? LOL I hope we win it all with him.
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playa2
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1/5/2004  7:11 PM
If Starbury thought he got blamed in jersey, if he flops in NY HE WILL BE KNOWN AS A FRANCHISE KILLER (with talent).
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/5/2004  7:20 PM
i can't honestly say were a finals team now, but were a team that's very strong in the east FINALLY. also with 1 or 2 minor moves we can be there. just hope we don't give up the rest of our picks to get there.
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1/5/2004  8:12 PM
ball hog and gonna argue w/ all. just watch
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1/5/2004  8:17 PM
Posted by daddynel:

i can't honestly say were a finals team now, but were a team that's very strong in the east FINALLY. also with 1 or 2 minor moves we can be there. just hope we don't give up the rest of our picks to get there.
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playa2
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1/5/2004  8:29 PM
I suppose one could argue that the Knicks have the best backcourt in the East now. Marbury, Houston, Williams and Penny are very talented. But will they all mesh together ????
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1/5/2004  8:38 PM
not the best backcourt in the east but very good. on D and O
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1/5/2004  8:51 PM
Posted by hDavis:

not the best backcourt in the east but very good. on D and O

Name ONE TEAM in the East with a better backcourt than the Knicks?!?!?!?

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/5/2004  11:10 PM
Why people call Steph a franchise player is beyond me. But if that's the way it works out, that's fine with me. Nevertheless, the end result has to be to the promise land.

"Like they always say, New York is the Mecca of basketball,"I read that in Michael Jordan books my whole life and I played here in the Big East tournament, so it's always fun to play in the Mecca of basketball."---Rip Hamilton
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1/6/2004  6:53 AM
I'm STARTING TO WONDER what will happen when WE play teams and Marbury has bad games, what will these forums excuses be? Because from what many say on here he can't do any wrong at all. I will be waiting to see what they say.
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1/6/2004  8:38 AM
Fire Chaney!
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1/6/2004  9:24 AM
Posted by playa2:

I'm STARTING TO WONDER what will happen when WE play teams and Marbury has bad games, what will these forums excuses be? Because from what many say on here he can't do any wrong at all. I will be waiting to see what they say.

Wow playa, you are starting to sound like a hater on here...I mean you couldn't possibly think this trade was any worse then what Layden pulled off in his tenure could you? I think you are just pissed because you placed all your faith in this team AS IS when the season started and it just wasnt a good squad. Now that major changes have come you dont have the chance to say "told you so" to all the guys on this board who called Layden, Dolan, and Chaney out as well as the garbage that was on the court every night. Most of the scrubs are gone now, there is still room for improvement - but this team is better today then it was 2 days ago, and you just sound bitter.
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1/6/2004  10:01 AM
Oasis you dead wrong man, what I saw was team play with Frank Williams at the point. HE HAS A GROIN PULL, and all of a sudden we don't have a point guard? We all know that marbury is better than Frank, but will marbury make his teammates better? He is known as a bog hog and argumentative as caseloads says too. That's all Im concerned with. CHEMISTRY!

[Edited by - PLAYA2 on 01/06/2004 10:04:23]
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1/6/2004  10:37 AM
No one has even seen this team play together yet, and already Playa is starting with the punk moves. LOL Oasis, you are right on point with your assessmernt of Playa after this trade. It seems like a complete 180 degree turn, from hating on others for not accepting the tired mess LayDown put out there, to hating on the Knicks for being BETTER now that the right changes were made. That whole Pro-LayDown faction is moonwalkin' llike Michael Jackson while postas like Oasis, GoNY, TKF and myself sit back laughin' our asses off watching cats like Playa asphyxiate themselves off the CROW they are being force fed right now. Go get a 40oz of that HATERADE to wash it down, ladies. It's friggin' HILARIOUS.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/6/2004  11:03 AM
Playa,

Don't worry about whom gonna get blame for whom. This trade may ELECTRIFY the current roster as Starbury adds a demension we have not seen in 27 years.

If KVH is not getting traded (I don't think his value has increased that much), then Isiah has to convince Steph that KVH is his friend. KVH can run and get out on the break. He can also post up most SF's, and that opens many many things up for Marbury to cut to the hoop, or allan to get some nice looks. If the D lapses, Mutumbo gets easy dunk.

KT becomes a slow liabilty with him and Mutumbo in the same lineup. Stro Swift would look better. How bout KT and anderson for stro and Battier? Lets get real, penny not reliable over the long term.

Chill out playa, Frank only looked good cuz the other two sucked so bad. We can trade Frank. I hate trading guys we rooted for and wished well on, but Isiah's gonna wheel and deal. We may be in a bigger mess in 3-4 years, but Dolan is telling you "don't worry, be happy". So bring your american express card.

If it don't work, then just sit back and kill yourself if PHX goes big in the lottery with our pick. Laydog benched his career on his dice trade, now Isiah is banking on this to work.

Steph has Isiah to teach him not just how to play, but can teach him to be a LEADER. Very few of the greatones were not that much better talent wise, but they had the PRESENCE and CHARACTER to lead, take blame, and help those around them. Starbury has the talent, has the stats, now he must focus not on the trappings of wealth, not on all the hangers on and family, but on the buisness of being the man in all areas.

Then, with a ring on his finger, he can own the city.

Interesting note: Starbury and Sam Cassell both were affiliated with the Bucks, Suns, Nets, and Timberwolves. Both have about the funniest looking heads in the game.

I think that head comes from playing in the polluted swamp out at the meadowlands!
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1/6/2004  11:11 AM
Steph has Isiah to teach him not just how to play, but can teach him to be a LEADER. Very few of the greatones were not that much better talent wise, but they had the PRESENCE and CHARACTER to lead, take blame, and help those around them. Starbury has the talent, has the stats, now he must focus not on the trappings of wealth, not on all the hangers on and family, but on the buisness of being the man in all areas.

Very well put, Nalod. Good point. Isaiah can take Starbury under his wing and show him how to be an even better star. That could help Steph become more of a player that makes his teammates better.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/6/2004  12:23 PM
How many games before he will show all of what you just said 5 -10. How about thursday when JVG comes to town. That would be a great start!!!!
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/6/2004  5:10 PM
Posted by OasisBU:


Wow playa, you are starting to sound like a hater on here...I mean you couldn't possibly think this trade was any worse then what Layden pulled off in his tenure could you? I think you are just pissed because you placed all your faith in this team AS IS when the season started and it just wasnt a good squad. Now that major changes have come you dont have the chance to say "told you so" to all the guys on this board who called Layden, Dolan, and Chaney out as well as the garbage that was on the court every night. Most of the scrubs are gone now, there is still room for improvement - but this team is better today then it was 2 days ago, and you just sound bitter.

you hit dawg....
playa2
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1/6/2004  6:03 PM
He better make our team better and I will be a happy camper.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/6/2004  8:04 PM
Most people say we can't win in all without an SUPERSTAR!

That may be a correct statement, we will have to wait and see.

"Like they always say, New York is the Mecca of basketball,"I read that in Michael Jordan books my whole life and I played here in the Big East tournament, so it's always fun to play in the Mecca of basketball."---Rip Hamilton
Most people say we can't win in all without an SUPERSTAR!

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