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What are your reasons for supporting or not supporting the legalization of Marijuana? I see this becoming an even bigger issue in the coming years as states become more and more dire financial situations do they continue to raise people's property taxes and such or should they start thinking of more inventive ways to raise capital for their states?
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Should the government legalize, then regulate and tax?
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Or should they continue with the current drug laws?


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4/19/2009  1:10 PM
Legalize it. Not because I use marijuana or like marijuana, but because one could make a lot more money off of the idiots that do use it.
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Posted by orangeblobman:

Legalize it. Not because I use marijuana or like marijuana, but because one could make a lot more money off of the idiots that do use it.

Cancer patients who use to lessen the symptoms of chemotherapy are idiots? Wow you really need to step outside of your little world.
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4/19/2009  1:22 PM
Hey, way to take it to the extreme. Like someone would really be against using it for a purpose like that.

But I should have been specific-- the fools that abuse it and think they're all peace and love, hooray. My mistake.
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Posted by orangeblobman:

Hey, way to take it to the extreme. Like someone would really be against using it for a purpose like that.

But I should have been specific-- the fools that abuse it and think they're all peace and love, hooray. My mistake.

I'm curious have you've ever met people who use marijuana because I think you might be surprised how many perfectly functional responsible adults use it but then again that might not jive with your view of the world.
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4/19/2009  1:35 PM
Maybe functional in the short term, but pot kills your brain cells. It's not good for you.

And saying it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients is most likely an excuse.

With that said, I flat out don't have an opinion on this subject. It's probably better the way it is now. What's the purpose of making it legal? Who cares besides people who smoke a lot of pot?
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4/19/2009  1:36 PM
I've used and abused marijuana in my past. I know firsthand how dangerous it is and how dangerous any mind altering substances are. Sure, you can seem to function incredible well. Hold a job, work hard, etc., but do you honestly believe that you are going through life with your natural mind? If you currently use marijuana, I challenge you to stop for a year, or even two years, and then compare how your mind processes information. It's not natural and it's not healthy.
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4/19/2009  1:42 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe functional in the short term, but pot kills your brain cells. It's not good for you.

And saying it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients is most likely an excuse.

With that said, I flat out don't have an opinion on this subject. It's probably better the way it is now. What's the purpose of making it legal? Who cares besides people who smoke a lot of pot?
I haven't read the studies directly but I've heard of a lot of studies indicating that legalizing doesn't increase use. (They compare countries that are otherwise similar but where one does and one doesn't allow marijuana.) It would, however, bring in a huge amount of tax money that could dramatically improve our nation's infrastructure and public school systems
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Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe functional in the short term, but pot kills your brain cells. It's not good for you.

And saying it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients is most likely an excuse.

With that said, I flat out don't have an opinion on this subject. It's probably better the way it is now. What's the purpose of making it legal? Who cares besides people who smoke a lot of pot?

Allanfan,

You are very wrong there is not one legitimate medical study done that states that marijuana causes the loss of brain cells. Or that it isn't "good for you" and the only people fighting this is the big Pharmaceutical companies who stand to lose a great deal of money if people can start growing marijuana in their backward. I don't care if you don't believe it shouldn't be legalized it but at least have an honest discussion about it and stop spreading the misinformation about marijuana.

Also I don't think it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients because already in some states they are doing that but would you rather your tax money go towards imprisoning people or would you rather see states raise tax revenue? That's the real discussion.
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4/19/2009  2:03 PM
Um..yea...
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Yes, I support legalization. There are less health and safety risks associated with marijuana than there are associated with tobacco and alcohol. Some people will self medicate with whatever is most readily available. The only bad effect marijuana causes is a laziness and apathy. I'd say that's better than what chemically treated tobacco causes, and better than drunk driving/domestic abuse fueled by alcohol.

Furthermore, the costs associated with marijuana policing are absurd. There was a Time magazine about that. The tax revenues itself are enticing, but to simply stop its policing would allow the country to spend 10s of billions of dollars on education and infrastructure upgrades. I mean, alcohol and tobacco are legal and we educate children about their evils.
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Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe functional in the short term, but pot kills your brain cells. It's not good for you.

And saying it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients is most likely an excuse.

With that said, I flat out don't have an opinion on this subject. It's probably better the way it is now. What's the purpose of making it legal? Who cares besides people who smoke a lot of pot?

Allanfan,

You are very wrong there is not one legitimate medical study done that states that marijuana causes the loss of brain cells. Or that it isn't "good for you" and the only people fighting this is the big Pharmaceutical companies who stand to lose a great deal of money if people can start growing marijuana in their backward. I don't care if you don't believe it shouldn't be legalized it but at least have an honest discussion about it and stop spreading the misinformation about marijuana.

Also I don't think it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients because already in some states they are doing that but would you rather your tax money go towards imprisoning people or would you rather see states raise tax revenue? That's the real discussion.

Bitty, are you kidding me? It doesn't mess up your head? Who gives a f' about scientific studies. Just look at your peers. Just ask Orangeblobman, who just said he experienced it first hand, and for that matter, ask me.

I have tried it one time. A few years ago, I fell at work and had a seizure (Wont get into details about that situation, but some people here know about it.) Right before that seizure, I felt sharp pains all over my hands and arms.

Just this year, I tried pot for the first time in my life, and it was the last time. Why? I didn't have a seizure, but I felt the same exact syptoms. In fact, those sharp pains were all over my body this time.

It f's with your nerves Bitty. I don't need a scientific study to know that.

Now, if you want to legalize pot for the reasons Bonn stated, FINE. Give it a try.

But if you're going to tell me with a straight face that pot is not good for your nerves, then I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore.
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4/19/2009  2:28 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe functional in the short term, but pot kills your brain cells. It's not good for you.

And saying it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients is most likely an excuse.

With that said, I flat out don't have an opinion on this subject. It's probably better the way it is now. What's the purpose of making it legal? Who cares besides people who smoke a lot of pot?

Allanfan,

You are very wrong there is not one legitimate medical study done that states that marijuana causes the loss of brain cells. Or that it isn't "good for you" and the only people fighting this is the big Pharmaceutical companies who stand to lose a great deal of money if people can start growing marijuana in their backward. I don't care if you don't believe it shouldn't be legalized it but at least have an honest discussion about it and stop spreading the misinformation about marijuana.

Also I don't think it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients because already in some states they are doing that but would you rather your tax money go towards imprisoning people or would you rather see states raise tax revenue? That's the real discussion.

Bitty, are you kidding me? It doesn't mess up your head? Who gives a f' about scientific studies. Just look at your peers. Just ask Orangeblobman, who just said he experienced it first hand, and for that matter, ask me.

I have tried it one time. A few years ago, I fell at work and had a seizure (Wont get into details about that situation, but some people here know about it.) Right before that seizure, I felt sharp pains all over my hands and arms.

Just this year, I tried pot for the first time in my life, and it was the last time. Why? I didn't have a seizure, but I felt the same exact syptoms. In fact, those sharp pains were all over my body this time.

It f's with your nerves Bitty. I don't need a scientific study to know that.

Now, if you want to legalize pot for the reasons Bonn stated, FINE. Give it a try.

But if you're going to tell me with a straight face that pot is not good for your nerves, then I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore.

How about this experience one of my friends went out for his Bachelor Party (he was getting married in a week) after they finished partying for the night drinking legal alcohol the next morning when his friend came to visit him he didn't wake up. He died overnight due to alcohol poisoning yet this drug is readily available. Or how about this a girl I went to college with took some of her legally prescribed drugs and also died due to some kind of bad reaction she had to the drug. Or how about the numerous people dying of lung cancer due to smoking cigarettes. My friend your logic is seriously flawed and if put into practice in the real world most legal drugs would be illegal.


Do you think our government should legislate based on medical studies and studying criminal statistics or on individual experiences because that's essentially what your arguing here.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 04-19-2009 2:32 PM]
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4/19/2009  2:32 PM
Hey, all those studies aside, all the anecdotal evidence aside, etc., marijuana should be legalized, yes, you can tax it and all that great stuff, cool...

But! -- All of that doesn't change the fact that it is bad for you. It alters your mind and therefore changes the way you perceive and react to situations and people.

If nature wanted you to go through life stoned, son, it would have made you so from the get-go. There is no way, absolutely NO WAY, that someone can smoke pot and be 'themselves'.
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Posted by orangeblobman:

Hey, all those studies aside, all the anecdotal evidence aside, etc., marijuana should be legalized, yes, you can tax it and all that great stuff, cool...

But! -- All of that doesn't change the fact that it is bad for you. It alters your mind and therefore changes the way you perceive and react to situations and people.

If nature wanted you to go through life stoned, son, it would have made you so from the get-go. There is no way, absolutely NO WAY, that someone can smoke pot and be 'themselves'.

No offense to any of you but if I'm going to choose between taking the word of people on UK or scientific studies about the possible dangers of Marijuana I think I'm going to stick to the scientific studies.
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4/19/2009  2:44 PM
Posted by orangeblobman:

Hey, all those studies aside, all the anecdotal evidence aside, etc., marijuana should be legalized, yes, you can tax it and all that great stuff, cool...

But! -- All of that doesn't change the fact that it is bad for you. It alters your mind and therefore changes the way you perceive and react to situations and people.

If nature wanted you to go through life stoned, son, it would have made you so from the get-go. There is no way, absolutely NO WAY, that someone can smoke pot and be 'themselves'.


lol. then why did nature supply us with pot?
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Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by bitty41:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Maybe functional in the short term, but pot kills your brain cells. It's not good for you.

And saying it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients is most likely an excuse.

With that said, I flat out don't have an opinion on this subject. It's probably better the way it is now. What's the purpose of making it legal? Who cares besides people who smoke a lot of pot?

Allanfan,

You are very wrong there is not one legitimate medical study done that states that marijuana causes the loss of brain cells. Or that it isn't "good for you" and the only people fighting this is the big Pharmaceutical companies who stand to lose a great deal of money if people can start growing marijuana in their backward. I don't care if you don't believe it shouldn't be legalized it but at least have an honest discussion about it and stop spreading the misinformation about marijuana.

Also I don't think it should be legalized for the sake of cancer patients because already in some states they are doing that but would you rather your tax money go towards imprisoning people or would you rather see states raise tax revenue? That's the real discussion.

Bitty, are you kidding me? It doesn't mess up your head? Who gives a f' about scientific studies. Just look at your peers. Just ask Orangeblobman, who just said he experienced it first hand, and for that matter, ask me.

I have tried it one time. A few years ago, I fell at work and had a seizure (Wont get into details about that situation, but some people here know about it.) Right before that seizure, I felt sharp pains all over my hands and arms.

Just this year, I tried pot for the first time in my life, and it was the last time. Why? I didn't have a seizure, but I felt the same exact syptoms. In fact, those sharp pains were all over my body this time.

It f's with your nerves Bitty. I don't need a scientific study to know that.

Now, if you want to legalize pot for the reasons Bonn stated, FINE. Give it a try.

But if you're going to tell me with a straight face that pot is not good for your nerves, then I'm not going to discuss this with you anymore.

How about this experience one of my friends went out for his Bachelor Party (he was getting married in a week) after they finished partying for the night drinking legal alcohol the next morning when his friend came to visit him he didn't wake up. He died overnight due to alcohol poisoning yet this drug is readily available. Or how about this a girl I went to college with took some of her legally prescribed drugs and also died due to some kind of bad reaction she had to the drug. Or how about the numerous people dying of lung cancer due to smoking cigarettes. My friend your logic is seriously flawed and if put into practice in the real world most legal drugs would be illegal.


Do you think our government should legislate based on medical studies and studying criminal statistics or on individual experiences because that's essentially what your arguing here.

[Edited by - bitty41 on 04-19-2009 2:32 PM]

Bitty, first off, I don't know why your attacking me by saying my arguement is flawed. If you noticed, I said from the get go that I don't have an opinion. I said maybe it's better the way it is. I also said who cares?

I'm well aware of the fact that alchohal and tobacco are horrible for your body, not to mention fast food, diet coke and bla bla bla. I'm pretty sure that was drummed into my head every day since the 1st grade. And believe me, I know people who lost their lives b/c of drinking problems or b/c they smoked so many cigs, or for that matter, ate like crap also.

I think you missed the point of my flawed arguement though. I simply stated that marijuana is bad for your brain. No need to attempt to degrade that (Which you didn't) by saying that other things are bad for you too. lol
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i think our biggest concern around here should be if arguing is bad for you
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4/19/2009  3:13 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by orangeblobman:

Hey, all those studies aside, all the anecdotal evidence aside, etc., marijuana should be legalized, yes, you can tax it and all that great stuff, cool...

But! -- All of that doesn't change the fact that it is bad for you. It alters your mind and therefore changes the way you perceive and react to situations and people.

If nature wanted you to go through life stoned, son, it would have made you so from the get-go. There is no way, absolutely NO WAY, that someone can smoke pot and be 'themselves'.


lol. then why did nature supply us with pot?

Try to put the bong down for a second-- why did nature supply us with poison plants? why did nature supply us with man eating animals? or volcanoes or hurricanes?

Just because nature "supplied" us with something doesn't mean it has any place in a human body or mind.
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Bitty, first off, I don't know why your attacking me by saying my arguement is flawed. If you noticed, I said from the get go that I don't have an opinion. I said maybe it's better the way it is. I also said who cares?

Your statement of "it killing your brain cells" has been used by opponents of legalization of Marijuana for years and when someone finally decided to study Marijuana it turned out those claims were false. I think you and Orangeblob are under the impression that outside of Cancer patients the only people who use it are hippie stoners when in reality this drug is used by people of all ages and backgrounds.
I think you missed the point of my flawed arguement though. I simply stated that marijuana is bad for your brain. No need to attempt to degrade that (Which you didn't) by saying that other things are bad for you too. lol

Again I appreciate you sharing your own experiences but I have to ask what scientific documentation do you have that supports the claim that Marijuana is bad for your brain?

I am in no way trying to diminish your traumatic experience with Marijuana but rather you can't legislate any drug on just one individual experience and use that to imprison people.

If you don't care about the Marijuana laws you should considering that it costs taxpayers over 10 Billion dollars a year to imprison people for charges related to Marijuana.
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