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franco12
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Granted, Isiah & Dolan crapped this organization big time, but every other team it seems is making deals and adding picks and what did we do? Grade him - A B C D F INC (incomplete)
4 votes
9.76%
A
13 votes
31.71%
B
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17.07%
C
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14.63%
D
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14.63%
F
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12.2%
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fishmike
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6/27/2008  8:06 AM
gave him a B. I think he took the BPA and a guy that fills needs at the same time

*** I wanted Alexander with Love and Westbrook gone, but I cant say Alexander is better than Gali

[Edited by - fishmike on 27-06-2008 08:07 AM]
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6/27/2008  8:09 AM
Gave him a D cause I think he could and should have done more concerning the talent that fell deep into the second round (Walker, CDR etc.). With people buying picks, you allways look dumb as a GM!!!
Still like the Gallinari pick...
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6/27/2008  8:24 AM
I gave him a D - honestly - he should have bought a pick - and he probably should have traded someone like Crawford.
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6/27/2008  8:29 AM
the knicks really shouldve looked to add one or two more players in this draft.

knicks are putting themselves in unique position of trying to win as many games as possible with a subpar squad. why do i think that is a bad move? b/c they will hurt their chances in the 2009 draft and with no pick in 2010, this draft was their best shot at adding more young talent to the mix.

with that said...i'll repeat it, if knicks fans can't trust d'alsh, then who can they trust?
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6/27/2008  8:39 AM
His next move better be to dump some players. Nets move Jefferson, clear cap and don't get, in my estimation, equal talent back.

We need to do the same. Curry & Crawford should be moveable.

I'm worried that Walsh & D'Antoni won't move Crawford because they want to win as many pathetic games this season as possible, and if you dump Crawford, we're really going to suck.
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6/27/2008  8:48 AM
I give him Inc because Gallinari is an unknown and we don't know what we are going to have 4 years down the road with him.

As far as getting more picks to take players in the later round, I woulf give him an F. Rumors of the Spurs shopping their pick and with a few quality players falling Walsh should have been buying. I would have taken any of the Memphis bigs or CDR - to me those players are far better talent wise then what we have on the roster now. I guess D'Antoni has a vision of what he wants and thats how we will end up going...
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6/27/2008  8:57 AM
I would give him a D. I don't thing Gallinari was the best player available and I don't think he was the guy his coach wanted. I think there will be alot of guys who the Knicks were rumored to possibly pick that fans will be talking about for a long time.
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6/27/2008  9:20 AM
really shocked we didn't buy a pick to get a player like CDR late.
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6/27/2008  9:25 AM
I gave him an F, but realistically it's a D. He completely wiffed on all of the trades he was pursuing, not completely his fault, but he doesn't get a pass for that either. They clearly thought they were moving Lee to Memphis or Portland which is why they threw him under the bus on MSG.

Gallinari is a decent pick, he's basically going to be a KVH clone but maybe with more heart. But there were guys with motors who played a running game available - Bayless, Alexander. Could have traded and tried to get some more assets.

Look at Portland. My god, they get an A. Bayless, Arthur and Dorsey. That's how you run a draft.

MSG gets an F doe their pathetic throwing DLee under the bus and trying to spin this draft like it was some sort of big ****ing win for the Knicks. I am so sick of the Knicks coverage on MSG.
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6/27/2008  9:30 AM
I gave him an F, primarily because we don't know if he took the best player available! We mortgaged our future on an UNKNOWN... bypassing two legit potential impact players Jerryd Bayless and Eric Gordon. So what if they are combo's WE KNOW what type of talent they are! Certainly they would have been assets for us. Hell even Brook Lopez was on the board, he was viewed by many as arguably the 4th best prospect in college. It's funny how the Nets got it right. Matter of fact, its funny how Rod Thorn is running our team from the other side of the Hudson "The Knicks will select Danilo Gallinari"

Crazy. I just hope we get something else because this is another lateral move IMO

[Edited by - JayNYC on 06-27-2008 09:31 AM]
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6/27/2008  9:40 AM
Grade the obnoxious NY fans, who have never seen Gallinari play, who feel obligated welcome an 18 year old kid from Italy - to the United States - by Booing him

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6/27/2008  9:46 AM
Posted by misterearl:

Grade the obnoxious NY fans, who have never seen Gallinari play, who feel obligated welcome an 18 year old kid from Italy - to the United States - by Booing him

Not 4 nothing, I don't think they were booing Danilo because of his style of play... because as you have pointed out we don't know him. I'll speak for myself, I was booing too.. for a number of reasons, the most obvious.. leaving talent that I know will be quality players in this league on the board. 2nd, and now probably leap frogging to the 1st reason is I've learned that this guy is gonna be our PF? Are you kidding me? Curry/Z-Bo/Gallinari? NO D.
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6/27/2008  9:50 AM
Posted by JayNYC:

I gave him an F, primarily because we don't know if he took the best player available! We mortgaged our future on an UNKNOWN...
[Edited by - JayNYC on 06-27-2008 09:31 AM]


I hate to break it to you but the Knicks defaulted on that mortgage a long time ago - they have been at sub-prime status for the past decade and we have been feeling the effects every season. Although I dont disagree with you on the passing on talent part - but DG is an uknown and we will see what happens.



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6/27/2008  9:54 AM
why take Bayless or Gordon when you have Crawful? like Randolph and Curry its likely he has little trade value due to his contract.
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6/27/2008  9:59 AM
Incomplete. I'm real pissed that we didn't buy a pick from anyone, at the same time, who's to say he didn't try? Who's to say that Spurs email was actually true? I'm in wait and see mode with Galliari. I like what he can possibly represent. I just want it to come true now.
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6/27/2008  10:01 AM
I gave him a B. I like the Gallinari pick but I would have liked a late pick since Chalmers and CDR were falling.
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6/27/2008  10:05 AM
I don't know yet so I say incomplete. My only concern is that this kid will be able to handle playing here.
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6/27/2008  10:06 AM
As usual the fans of New York proved that they are not smart fans and that they are snobs. I'm glad that most around here subscribe to the Carl Everett theory on the dinosaurs "If I didn't see them, they didn't exist" which is pretty much exactly what you did with DG because I know any of you that are killing this pick haven't seen him play. I didn't boo, I didn't cheer, I have no idea what kind of player DG is and I'm not going to pretend like I know he'll be a bust or he'll be good. I just don't understand how some people on this forum can go from thread to thread saying that Walsh had a horrible draft because he drafted this kid, because when you hear all these scouts talk about him they all say the same thing "he has alot of talent, he works very hard, has great basketball IQ, he might take some time develop."

Unless you've literally watched this guy play you have no right to say ANYTHING about this pick and I know that no one on this forum has watched him play.

By the way, I gave Walsh a C. Hey atleast he didn't pick a "D'Antoni" player because all we would have heard if picked Eric Gordon was that he only picked him because he fit D'Antoni's system.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 06-27-2008 10:07 AM]
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6/27/2008  10:08 AM
Posted by McK1:

why take Bayless or Gordon when you have Crawful? like Randolph and Curry its likely he has little trade value due to his contract.

Why take Danilo as a PF when you have Zach Randolph or David Lee? The same logic applies here!

It's simple why you take those guys.. because they are PTP'ers.. we know that they are good. We need a facelift in our backcourt, Walsh has said that he selected Danilo because he doesn't know what type of contribution either of those two players would have given.. YET he selected Gallinari? Is that justified? They masquerade the true answer to that question by saying oh we've been watching Danilo for a year. Pure Fodder! You go with what you Know! Dick Vitale said it best yesterday, and Jay Bilas was on point as well when they questioned this selection. This is a mystery pick, we don't need to base our NYK future on an unknown.

Don't get me wrong, I ain't knocking Danilo.. because I don't know what he can do on the court. Everything is pure speculation when attempting to critique his game. By all accounts, scouts have cited that he plays no D, and what was also a little less than to be desired was Danilo's request to workout alone. Just a shooting drill, no physical contact against other players. He didn't want to decrease his chances of being selected. That is kind of suspect in my opinion. Quite Soft! Yet, This our PF.

I'll admit his highlights look superb.. but usually most highlights are impressive wouldn't you agree? Bottomline is, As a Knick Fan I hope that Danilo is nice like Dirk or Detlef. That being said, hope is the operative word in that statement. We wouldn't guess on what we'd be getting with Gordon or Bayless.

[Edited by - JayNYC on 06-27-2008 10:10 AM]
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6/27/2008  10:10 AM
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Posted by misterearl:

Grade the obnoxious NY fans, who have never seen Gallinari play, who feel obligated welcome an 18 year old kid from Italy - to the United States - by Booing him


I agree with you on the booing. Whether you liked the pick or not I don't think the booing was justified in anyway. I think the reaction was more towards the Knicks organization for their body of work over the last 6-7 years--with some fans who are probably irritated but that doesn't excuse barking at the kid like that. As a fan of the Knicks Gallinari is now someone we want to be very good--I hope he is--it will be a wait and see. I don't see a star player there but I would be happy with a good player at this point although there is potential that this kid is just fair or even busts. But the actions of the NY Knick organization last night--namely throwing Lee under the bus--and letting what looked like a good opportunity to change a few other things slip buy while other teams did not. I think they let multiple guys and opportunities go by that will exceed Gallinari as a player-I mean I can reasonably question whether Boston with pick 30 and 300-400K had a better draft than the Knicks with a 6 pick had a better draft in totality than the Knicks. I give gallinari a C+ postitive neutral I give the Ny knicks organization a fat F for their continued classlessness/inept production so they can joing the fans who booed Gallinari--they were no better.
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