Posted by 4949:

I thought I just put a post up with this question. The tankers overwhelmed all others.

Eddy Curry picked up two fouls in the first 2:05 and did not return in the half. The Knicks proceeded to play one of their best halves of the season without Marbury and Curry, building a 63-50 lead.

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by nixluva:

The thing is that no amount of losses will make Dolan go away. He doesn't want to rebuild the traditional way and it's never gonna happen as long as he's here. Now if we can stop dreaming as if there' some chance that this will happen, we can get back to reality and understand that this team needs to win games and make the most of what it has. I say this cuz we're probably not gonna lose enough to get a top pick. At least not on purpose anyway. Dolan and Isiah won't let that happen.

The fact is that if the fans at MSG understood Dolan they wouldn't boo. That only makes him want to look for immediate change in order to try to win games. The man only wants a packed stadium and the appearance of title contention. This is why I felt the only chance we had was if Isiah could keep working the draft and making moves to get this team closer to the top. Then we'd have to hope we could pull off a good trade to get the rest of the way there. Cuz to be honest we're not gonna be the next Portland anytime soon. At least not in my lifetime, cuz Dolan won't let that happen.

The best chance we have is thru trades like Boston, Miami and Detroit did. If your owner won't let you do it thru the draft then there's little else you can do. That's why i'm a Gamer so to speak. Not cuz I want to accept the status quo or mediocrity, but due to the reality of the situation we've always been in with Dolan. We all know this, and yet so many want to ignore the facts. You can't wish for Isiah to lose just cuz you dislike him, you have want this team to get better and win cuz it's gonna help to give this team a chance to get things done, via trade. The only thing Dolan will allow is trades and FA signings.

I don't believe that we can get anything and I mean ANYTHING good in trades. We have no assets. We will not get any decent player in FA too - who would want to play for MDE and who would want to play for THIS mess? All we can get is another JJ-X.
Get real. With Isiah on board this team is doomed...

Now you can't be this harsh in your outlook. For one thing we did get something good when we made the trade for Zach. What we gave up and what we're getting from Zach and Jones is actually GREAT value. Just because the team hasn't been in synch, doesn't mean that those players are mistakes or bad trade values. The thing is that the players are capable of playing much better and we've seen evidence of that. The losses are hard to take and I understand that there's no reason for most of us to have faith in this roster, but as bad as it's been this team has the ability to turn it around and raise the collective value of the players we have. We can then make a trade for what we need much easier of this team plays better. So we can't depend on Dolan to ever allow a rebuild. Heck he won't even fire Isiah. The only chance we have is that we can get on track and play better and change the attitude about the players on this team. Then we may be able to get a player we need and clear some of the glut and inbalance we have.