IT needs to bite the bullet and cut JJ1. The guy is useless. Nichols has the potential to be a more defensive minded and offensively diverse Rashul Butler. That would make him a pretty good NBA player. You are going to cut him for one year of Houston or JJ1 fat butt. Cut Jordan and JJ1, keep Jones and Nichols, and forget about Houston. You send Nichols and Chandler down to the D-league and watch Jordan to see if he develops.

I think guys are getting a little obsessed with Nichols. I also don't see why Isiah needs to bend over backwards to sign him or guarantee him anything. Maybe he will be a good player, maybe he won't. But I do know this:

1) Nichols wasn't on our radar at all. Thomas got him here. Maybe we should that should be taken into account before everyone starts trashing Thomas before anything happens with Nichols.
2) Nichols looked good in summer league. That doesn't mean anything. Fred Jones would look like Clyde Drexler in Summer League.
3) Nichols is in no position to play hardball at this stage of his career.
4) In my experience watching the NBA most teams prefer to have a useless 7 footer as the last man on the bench, not a shooting guard.
5) It ain't over yet, who is to say what the plans are for Nichols or any of the other players in doubt? So why is Thomas getting killed for a situation that hasn't happened yet with a player only he had the eye to spot and get here?

In regard to the poll:

If Houston is able to play, he is better than Jones or Nichols, and even if he can only play 10-15 minutes he is probably the best shooting guard the Knicks have for 10-15 minutes.

Jones has been inconsistent but he has shown he can put up big games and play tough defense. I think Thomas has plans for him as a specialty player.

Nichols is intriguing, and I'd love to see what he has, but he is probaly less ready to contribute on the floor during actual game play, even less than Jerome James. Center is the hardest position to fill in the NBA, and every team needs a body to throw at that position for an emergency.

So I guess I would have to cut Nichols. Of course I haven't had the chance to evaluate him properly, or Houston/Jones for that matter, perhaps we will know more when we see some pre-season games.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 06-10-2007 5:09 PM]

Posted by oohah:

I think guys are getting a little obsessed with Nichols. I also don't see why Isiah needs to bend over backwards to sign him or guarantee him anything. Maybe he will be a good player, maybe he won't. But I do know this:

1) Nichols wasn't on our radar at all. Thomas got him here. Maybe we should that should be taken into account before everyone starts trashing Thomas before anything happens with Nichols.
2) Nichols looked good in summer league. That doesn't mean anything. Fred Jones would look like Clyde Drexler in Summer League.
3) Nichols is in no position to play hardball at this stage of his career.
4) In my experience watching the NBA most teams prefer to have a useless 7 footer as the last man on the bench, not a shooting guard.
5) It ain't over yet, who is to say what the plans are for Nichols or any of the other players in doubt? So why is Thomas getting killed for a situation that hasn't happened yet with a player only he had the eye to spot and get here?

In regard to the poll:

If Houston is able to play, he is better than Jones or Nichols, and even if he can only play 10-15 minutes he is probably the best shooting guard the Knicks have for 10-15 minutes.

Jones has been inconsistent but he has shown he can put up big games and play tough defense. I think Thomas has plans for him as a specialty player.

Nichols is intriguing, and I'd love to see what he has, but he is probaly less ready to contribute on the floor during actual game play, even less than Jerome James. Center is the hardest position to fill in the NBA, and every team needs a body to throw at that position for an emergency.

So I guess I would have to cut Nichols. Of course I haven't had the chance to evaluate him properly, or Houston/Jones for that matter, perhaps we will know more when we see some pre-season games.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 06-10-2007 5:09 PM]

I don't disagree that we might need a third center (Curry just got hurt Saturday), but really is James that much of a better option than Rose and Lee. Rose has shown that he can guard Tim Duncan and other players larger than him. I would rather cut JJ1 and keep Nichols rather than lose Nichols for nothing. IT can solve the problem by cutting Jones and Jordan but he seems to like Jones even though we already have 4 people on the team who can play SG.

for me it's not so much about signing Nichols specifically, I just want to get rid of JJ.

Jones is a below average player. If Houston looks healthy and ready to play than you give him a shot. If not Nichols- but they should free up a spot for Nichols regardless. Jones is a player who's skill set could be duplicated by a good NBDL signing.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Kobe is an athletic freak. Sorry but I laugh when hear "Fred Jones" and "athletic freak"

maybe he didnd't mean the good kind of freak.

Demetris Nichols is the people's choice.

Posted by Knicksfan:

Isiah has done a bad job with all this Demetris Nichols thing, but he better not mass it any further. He has to be on the Knicks, either with the big club or in the D-League. Why insist so much on Europe when you have the D-League? Im not saying its the same quality, but if Nichols problem is going overseas, leave him here until you get your lineup ready. If he is cut thats a prove Isiah is all about himself and should be fired soon. If he cares for the best of the team, he will keep Nichols with the Knicks.

I predict Isiah will never send a player to the D-League. Why? Because Isiah is a petty man who's scornful that Stern didn't buy the CBA from him to create said league, so Isiah will boycott it even if it means cutting off his nose to spite his own face.

Just my little prediction.

Posted by misterearl:

Hold up

BlueSeats - while you maintain a post card for all Knicks things negative, allow me to remind you that Nichols was drafted by the same petty and scornful man who drafted Lee, Ariza, Balkman, Nate, The Mayor, Frye (who begat Zach) Collins, and stole Randolph Morris (3-3 from the field last night)

Nichols will make the roster if he proves he can follow his performance in Las Vegas, play defense and beat out someone at the two or three spots. It ain't that deep.

Just my little opinion

You cite my name and parody my lingo as if you are about to challenge my assumptions but then you don't.

Why all the heavy panting only to come up short? What's up wid dat?

Was Trevor Ariza Really Delusional?

BlueSeats - nowhere did I intend to parody your (cough) lingo. C'mon, the day I need to resort to the petty theft of imitation is the day I stop rooting for Wilson Chandler to block another shot.

I got my own "lingo" , but thank you for playing along on the job.

The archaic (grammatically correct) usage might be "'supwidat?"

or the more assertive and streamlined,

"'sup?"

comprende?

The bottom line is that Nichols is garbage if Isiah tosses him. If he stays a Knick, Nichols is God. That's how it always goes around here.

Honestly, I like Nichols and hope we keep him. If we don't, I hope some of you feel as annoyed as you do today at the prospect of losing a kid who shot the lights out during SL.