Posted by VDesai:

Love the Knicks, hate the people in charge of the team.

I second that motion.

I LOVE the team. I think for the 1st time in a long time, we have a bunch of young players that we can get behind and enjoy watching for years to come. I like the fact that we have a pretty solid group at Center and Forward spots. Curry, Frye, Lee, Jared, & Balkman are all young and capable NBA players. Not every team has such a nice group of guys they can look forward to.

I'm a little concerned with our SF and Guard situation, but i'm confident that Isiah will do something to address the problems there. I'm happy with Steph. I'm relatively happy with Jamal. I have hope for Collins and Nate to continue to develop. I'm worried about Q. This is why i'm expecting Isiah to draft a SF this year.

I'm happy with Isiah's coaching. I think he's done some good things, but still needs to improve in his gametime decision making. He needs to go away from the Iso's at the end of qtr's and games. As a GM I think he's recently been doing a decent job. Of course he has to be perfect from here on out. We can't have any more J. James type mistakes.

Posted by nixluva:

I LOVE the team. I think for the 1st time in a long time, we have a bunch of young players that we can get behind and enjoy watching for years to come. I like the fact that we have a pretty solid group at Center and Forward spots. Curry, Frye, Lee, Jared, & Balkman are all young and capable NBA players. Not every team has such a nice group of guys they can look forward to.

I'm a little concerned with our SF and Guard situation, but i'm confident that Isiah will do something to address the problems there. I'm happy with Steph. I'm relatively happy with Jamal. I have hope for Collins and Nate to continue to develop. I'm worried about Q. This is why i'm expecting Isiah to draft a SF this year.

I'm happy with Isiah's coaching. I think he's done some good things, but still needs to improve in his gametime decision making. He needs to go away from the Iso's at the end of qtr's and games. As a GM I think he's recently been doing a decent job. Of course he has to be perfect from here on out. We can't have any more J. James type mistakes.

you, my friend, are one happy camper...

My thoughts on the Knicks 06/07 Season

I think the thing that creates the big rift between us is that some of us are looking at the teams current state as only an early stage of development. I've seen so many teams over the years develop from this point into solid teams. We have some players who fill important roles already starting to establish themselves.

Curry of course in the paint. He still has a lot of growth to do, but he's at least become a solid presence inside that we haven't had in YEARS.

Lee is that rebounder we've been needing and he's a really good one at that. He has a chance to continue to develop the rest of his game. He's smart and athletic. I would like to see him get a bit stronger and of course develop that jumper.

Frye is starting to look more like the guy we all knew. I think he actually fits in perfectly with the group we have. His perimeter game makes sense along with Curry. I'd like to see him drive just a little bit to keep defenders honest. I think he's going to be a solid player for this team over the years.

Balkman is the energizer and hustle man we all love. I think we all know how effective he can be. Just imagine if this guy can develop a shot? Even still he's a guy that helps this team in the areas we really need the most.

Jared gets bashed a lot, but didn't we already know that he wasn't a stat guy? I wasn't expecting him to come in and fill up the boxscore, but I do think that he provides a bridge between the gaps in our roster between Frye and Lee. He's got the size and length over Lee, but is just a bit quicker and agile than Frye. He get's a lot of flack, but the guy has been playing better and doing what I expected him to do. I think he's going to fill that role very well for this team.

As i've said the next thing we need is a more potent SF to go along with these guys. It would be great if he was a 2 way player with some decent size, speed and shooting touch. He doesn't have to be an All Star, but a very good talent would round out this team nicely. I believe that Isiah already is looking to address that need.

I love the team more than I hate it, but I am not happy with everyone on the team and think that IT has made some serious mistakes. I however do like the direction that the team is moving in and believe that we will be much better next year. Right now the team needs to finish the season off strong, regardless of injuries.

Posted by nixluva:

I think the thing that creates the big rift between us is that some of us are looking at the teams current state as only an early stage of development. I've seen so many teams over the years develop from this point into solid teams. We have some players who fill important roles already starting to establish themselves.

Curry of course in the paint. He still has a lot of growth to do, but he's at least become a solid presence inside that we haven't had in YEARS.

Lee is that rebounder we've been needing and he's a really good one at that. He has a chance to continue to develop the rest of his game. He's smart and athletic. I would like to see him get a bit stronger and of course develop that jumper.

Frye is starting to look more like the guy we all knew. I think he actually fits in perfectly with the group we have. His perimeter game makes sense along with Curry. I'd like to see him drive just a little bit to keep defenders honest. I think he's going to be a solid player for this team over the years.

Balkman is the energizer and hustle man we all love. I think we all know how effective he can be. Just imagine if this guy can develop a shot? Even still he's a guy that helps this team in the areas we really need the most.

Jared gets bashed a lot, but didn't we already know that he wasn't a stat guy? I wasn't expecting him to come in and fill up the boxscore, but I do think that he provides a bridge between the gaps in our roster between Frye and Lee. He's got the size and length over Lee, but is just a bit quicker and agile than Frye. He get's a lot of flack, but the guy has been playing better and doing what I expected him to do. I think he's going to fill that role very well for this team.

As i've said the next thing we need is a more potent SF to go along with these guys. It would be great if he was a 2 way player with some decent size, speed and shooting touch. He doesn't have to be an All Star, but a very good talent would round out this team nicely. I believe that Isiah already is looking to address that need.

Well you make a good arguement, and I think you did a nice job of supporting it too. but tell me, is marbury in an early stage of development? is francis? is qrich? is crawford? this is what makes me reluctant to buy into "these are just the early stages of development" theory. also keep in mind that this team depends VERY heavily on the above listed players. also curry is in his sixth year, and so far has shown no sign that he will ever be a good defender/rebounder. also keep in mind that curry actually regressed one year in chicago so it isn't out of the question for the same to happen while he is with us.

but the point that I am trying to make is that all things considered, theres more reason to beleive that this team will have a limited ceiling than there is to beleive that they will progress year after year after year until eventually they are contenders. I'm not denying that players on this team will get better, but this team has alot of problems and some of them won't be solved simply by internal growth. for example, the lack of players that fit, and the lack of a leader. two factors that i feel conribute to this team's lack of consistency.

however, Im not saying that it will be impossible for this team to become contenders under isiah, but in my estimation, in order for that to happem, he'd have to change course from doing what he is doing right now.

Posted by SlimPack:

Well you make a good arguement, and I think you did a nice job of supporting it too. but tell me, is marbury in an early stage of development? is francis? is qrich? is crawford? this is what makes me reluctant to buy into "these are just the early stages of development" theory. also keep in mind that this team depends VERY heavily on the above listed players. also curry is in his sixth year, and so far has shown no sign that he will ever be a good defender/rebounder. also keep in mind that curry actually regressed one year in chicago so it isn't out of the question for the same to happen while he is with us.

but the point that I am trying to make is that all things considered, theres more reason to beleive that this team will have a limited ceiling than there is to beleive that they will progress year after year after year until eventually they are contenders. I'm not denying that players on this team will get better, but this team has alot of problems and some of them won't be solved simply by internal growth. for example, the lack of players that fit, and the lack of a leader. two factors that i feel conribute to this team's lack of consistency.

however, Im not saying that it will be impossible for this team to become contenders under isiah, but in my estimation, in order for that to happem, he'd have to change course from doing what he is doing right now.

I actually understand your concerns. I just think that for some reason we are reluctant to give our own players the benefit of the doubt while we seem most happy to assume that other teams young players will continue to blossom.

I think that while we have some problems with player "fitting in" I don't think that problem will continue to exist. We're going to see some adjustments made over the next season or more and the team will be more refined. We aren't that horrbly mismatched right now. Still it's obvious that certain players don't really fit and will have to be moved. But then this is the importance of Curry. It's not about how perfect a player he is. It's about how perfect the team is setup to enhance what he is. Right now we know that we need more perimeter shooting and another PG who can make the pass to him inside. That may end up being Collins or perhaps someone new. But I believe Isiah will address that. If we can see it, trust that he has seen it too. Just remember this is the 1st year we've been able to establish Curry in the paint. Frye CAN play with Curry as we've seen recently. Lee is a good fit as well, as are Jamal, Q and Steph. I think we have more parts that fit than fans are willing to admit.

I think team leaders are developing right now. Clearly steph has become much more of a leader this year. He's been pretty good in that regard. I believe that out of the young group others will emerge. To me that's not really all that much of a problem.

In terms of Steph, let's remember that he's STILL able to play at a VERY HIGH level. He just turned 30 and guys like Nash and Kidd are still playing well while being older than Steph. Steph seems to have evolved his game so that he knows when to exert himself and how to get rest during games. I believe he's gonna be able to help this team for 3-4 more years. Yes his speed will diminish some and before then we're going to have to address the need at PG, but I believe that will happen. I don't forsee him having to log such heavy minutes again next year.

Eddy, Nate, Jamal, Stevie, Isiah

Get rid of them all and see what we can get, we will be a better team in the long run, time to stay with defense as a theme