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McK1
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its been speculated on message boards that perhaps Curry in the back of his mind thinks about his heart ailment and that may affect his effort level. If this is in fact true, should at season's end Isiah do the moral and honorable thing and void the remaining years and offer a pay-out similar to what Pax was offering
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yes. its his responsibility as PBO
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no. if Curry wants to/feels he can play, let him play


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4/10/2006  7:00 PM
I've never heard anything about curry holding back becuase of his heart conidition, but I will say this much, if curry is bought out, Isiah should be bought out immediately afterwards. I really dont know how to answer that question though, I think Isiah should force eddy to play harder if that really is the case, and if something happens, that worry it about it when it does, I know its irresponsible, but we dont have time to baby sit curry.



[Edited by - slimpack on 04-10-2006 7:36 PM]
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4/10/2006  7:00 PM
I haven't heard this theory to explain this season. All I've heard people saying is that he's lazy and out of shape.
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4/10/2006  7:14 PM
Where has it been speculated. Where is the quotes from Curry (who would be the only who could support the theory since you said in the back of his mind).
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4/10/2006  7:16 PM
on message boards ie by fans. I'm not saying its fact or a direct quote from Curry or his people
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4/10/2006  8:30 PM
If that is truly the case, I think Isiah would have to at least offer a pay-out similar to what Paxson did. I know if I was in Isiah's shoes and that theory was true, I would do the moral thing and offer him the pay-out. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I was in Isiah's shoes and allowed Curry to just play it out and one night just collapse on the floor.

If that is truly the case and Eddy is thinking about those things, I don't see how anyone would make him play.
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4/10/2006  9:06 PM
I voted to offer the buy out not because of any moral thing Zeke has to do, but if this heart ailment is holding Curry back because he is thinking about it, the contract should be voided. If Curry can't give max effort for one reason or another he is not worth his contract nor what we gave up.

Interesting question if this scenario does arise, would we qualify for a medical exemption?
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4/10/2006  9:28 PM
As someone in the medical field, i'm sure they had Eddy sign waiver forms that if Curry died during a game or practice from a pre-existing heart condition that the Knicks would have no liability. If Curry died from his heart condition and signed the contract with full medical disclosure that he could die, then he should play or forfeit the remainder of his contract. He shouldnt get "bought out."
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4/10/2006  9:30 PM
on message boards ie by fans.
In this forum or other ones? I haven't seen anyone here state this
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4/10/2006  9:36 PM
What exactly is his medical condition? We know doctors cleared him to play but that's not to say he doesn't have a condition. They clear players to play on lots of conditions, like sprains and arthritic knees, doesn't mean they don't have a condition. Lets remember, his condition, whatever it is, was discovered because of light headedness and fatigue, so something was up.

I don't know but I suspect he does have a condition, takes meds and is monitored regularly.

Could that haunt his psyche? Sure. Could doctors recommend he be paced? Sure. Should he be bought out? I don't know yet, but it's not encouraging that he gets outplayed by Butler in 2nd halfs.
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4/10/2006  9:40 PM
at the end of the season, when you see these young kids going all out and trying, and seeing some players developing, he's sort of regressing and continuing to just loaf around. the eddy curry story will not end good for us in ny. we gave up too much for him, especially with the health concerns.
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4/10/2006  9:44 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

at the end of the season, when you see these young kids going all out and trying, and seeing some players developing, he's sort of regressing and continuing to just loaf around. the eddy curry story will not end good for us in ny. we gave up too much for him, especially with the health concerns.


yup.
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4/10/2006  9:46 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

As someone in the medical field, i'm sure they had Eddy sign waiver forms that if Curry died during a game or practice from a pre-existing heart condition that the Knicks would have no liability. If Curry died from his heart condition and signed the contract with full medical disclosure that he could die, then he should play or forfeit the remainder of his contract. He shouldnt get "bought out."


it reads contract void and [lifetime] payout similar to the one Pax was offering.

"If he dies on the court"...writing that doesn't send a chill.

blueseats Curry was diagnosed with a benign heart arrhythmia
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4/10/2006  9:51 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

What exactly is his medical condition? We know doctors cleared him to play but that's not to say he doesn't have a condition. They clear players to play on lots of conditions, like sprains and arthritic knees, doesn't mean they don't have a condition. Lets remember, his condition, whatever it is, was discovered because of light headedness and fatigue, so something was up.

I don't know but I suspect he does have a condition, takes meds and is monitored regularly.

Could that haunt his psyche? Sure. Could doctors recommend he be paced? Sure. Should he be bought out? I don't know yet, but it's not encouraging that he gets outplayed by Butler in 2nd halfs.

cardiac arrhythmia
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4/10/2006  9:53 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by Caseloads:

As someone in the medical field, i'm sure they had Eddy sign waiver forms that if Curry died during a game or practice from a pre-existing heart condition that the Knicks would have no liability. If Curry died from his heart condition and signed the contract with full medical disclosure that he could die, then he should play or forfeit the remainder of his contract. He shouldnt get "bought out."


it reads contract void and [lifetime] payout similar to the one Pax was offering.

"If he dies on the court"...writing that doesn't send a chill.

blueseats Curry was diagnosed with a benign heart arrhythmia
seriously - this was too big of a risk... it's not like curry WAS shaq before he came to the knicks. curry isnt even Zo post kidney transplant.
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4/10/2006  10:12 PM
I always felt that, if Curry understood the risks and wanted to play, that's his business. For an athelete, an opportunity to play at an elite level may trump all other considerations.

Now, I'm not sure Curry is able to understand the risks.



[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 04-10-2006 22:13]
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4/10/2006  10:55 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

cardiac arrhythmia

According to this that's what Gathers ad lewis died from.

http://www.la12.org/commotio-cordis/cordis-001.html


-- Hank Gathers, 23, Loyola Marymount basketball player, cardiac arrhythmia, 1990
-- Reggie Lewis, 27, Boston Celtics, cardiac arrhythmia, 1993


That can't be right though, can it? Wasn't the DNA test supposed to see if he was predisposed to what they had?

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4/10/2006  10:59 PM
Curry refused to take the DNA test

and thats why Pax wouldn't give him permission to play.

IF

he took one for NY, no report of it has surfaced

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-10-2006 11:01 PM]
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4/10/2006  11:00 PM
I think his propensity to pick up dumb fouls is a bigger problem.
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4/10/2006  11:34 PM
Posted by McK1:

Curry refused to take the DNA test

and thats why Pax wouldn't give him permission to play.

IF

he took one for NY, no report of it has surfaced

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-10-2006 11:01 PM]


No, you misunderstood me. I wasn't suggesting he took the test. I thought Pax wanted the test to see whether or not Eddy was predisposed to the condition that Lewis and Gathers died from. But if Eddy has already been diagnosed with the same condition as Gathers and Lewis - by means other than the DNA test - it's a far more serious condition than I realized. Isn't having what they died from bad enough?
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4/10/2006  11:37 PM
eddy was in debt. needs the $$
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