I think tony Campbell and ro blackmen were some serious disappointments. They were god tries by whoever brought them here but they were both damaged and ready to retire. If those guys were 2 years younger the knicks would have definately had a championship.

Tony Campbell could score and ro blackman was just a very good player overall. Those could have been some serious firepower for the knicks....

Damn man the history of the knicks just before ewing and during ewings whole career there have been countless disappointments.

Damn man can the knicks get a break?

Charles Smith and Stephon Marbury.

Smith because he really was supposed to be THE piece, that seoncd "star," that would have hepled the kNicks grab a couple of crowns.

Steph because, unfairly or not, he was looked at as a legitimate superstar who would lift us out of our longterm funk and return us to at least repsectability and competitiveness if not more.

Stephon Marbury

Antonio McDyess, then Eddy Curry.

I gotta give it to Charles...although Steph is right there with him - however he puts up #'s (just ruins chemistry and has no leadership skills) Smith was an all around disappointment who lacked toughness.

ANTONIO MCDYESS how could u forget that???? Fredrick weis.... Chris childs, while he ended up being good down the stretch was supposed 2 be a lot better than he was if u remember his last year in nj b4 he became a knick he was reaaally good.... Glen rice was also pretty lame....

Stephon Marbury? Larry Johnson?? Patrick Ewing is on the list?? LOL!! You guys are really too funny. How about we stop blaming the superstar and start blaming the guys surrounding him, b/c before his injury, Steph was doing everything for us, and his defense was improved. And why is Patrick Ewing even on that list? B/c he couldn't be placed on a team good enough to help him win a championship? Larry Johnson? He gave his heart and soul and he was just injured. How about, why isn't Tim Thomas even on this list? And as much as I loved Camby, why not him, b/c he couldn't stay on the floor. This is really a silly thread.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Stephon Marbury? Larry Johnson?? Patrick Ewing is on the list?? LOL!! You guys are really too funny. How about we stop blaming the superstar and start blaming the guys surrounding him, b/c before his injury, Steph was doing everything for us, and his defense was improved. And why is Patrick Ewing even on that list? B/c he couldn't be placed on a team good enough to help him win a championship? Larry Johnson? He gave his heart and soul and he was just injured. How about, why isn't Tim Thomas even on this list? And as much as I loved Camby, why not him, b/c he couldn't stay on the floor. This is really a silly thread.

the people on this board are comedians.

everyone was riding Marbury jock during that streak and couldn't WAIT until he came back when he got injured. hahaha

Ro, Dyess & LJ were damaged goods when they got here. and Weiss never played for the KNicks.

I would have to go with Tim Thomas.
He made me we still had KVH

^^ thats crazy, LJ was our leader and our heart. he was clutch, played D and totally modified his game. I could never hate on LJ. He was valuable to this team up until he could no longer play.

and look what they did, as opposed to us. With him, we could have beaten the Bulls in '97, LJ and Houston truely lifted us up to that second round in '98, he was the heart and soul of our team for the '99 run, and he was one of the most important pieces to our team in '00 and '01. We made out great in that trade, and it was a good one. Mason had some good seasons, but the Hornets still didn't do crap and continued to plummet. No shot in hell does Larry deserve to even be close to this list. He was great for us.

I included Ewing only because I know a lot of Knick fans back then used to whine about how he could never "take us over the top" and was "overrated" because "it's all about winning the title." Do I agree? No, but I figured there might be people who still see things that way.

Like I stated initially, I would have loved to put more choices on the list. I thought about adding Marbury, but I wondered that because he had never accomplished much with teams (other than Minnesota w/KG and a playoff exit with the Suns) that I thought more people would see the rest of the choices I listed as having higher expectations placed upon them for helping the Knicks make some major turnaround than Marbury. Clearly there were expectations for Steph, but I KNOW there are many fans who actually had very low expectations of him, while those that I listed did not have such a poor record before joining the Knicks, which is why I think they had higher expectations placed upon them.

McDyess could certainly fit in there as well, but the re-injury of his knee in pre-season (after looking so good) with us, plus already being damaged goods was a big warning, after REPEATED attempts by the Knicks being welling to take on damaged goods seems to have lowered expectations very quickly.

To me, after acquiring LJ, who came off of the back injury w/Charotte with NO HOPS, when that was a major part of his game I was naive (with several other fans, I believe) to think he was going to be the same player who used to torch us with the Hornets. When we got McDyess, that naivite was far less of a factor, and the press had jumped on that as well, calling it a VERY risky move, when the LJ move got far less criticism.

The Knicks should have learned from the LJ acquisition...although I loved what he brought to the Knicks as a leader, playing his heart out, and on several other ocassions some of those great moments...despite making all of those nice post moves only to get his shot blocked all of the time because he couldn't jump anymore. Which is why I didn't vote for him, but if you think about what Knick fans probably expected of him, his contributions weren't anywhere near expectations.

Tim Thomas is in the same category as most of the other players that arrived here under Isiah by having tainted and inconsisent careers. Only THE most hopeful of Knick fans would put him abouve someone like Chales Smith who was in his prime and scoring 20ppg on a team that went to the playoffs under Larry Brown.


[Edited by - PresIke on 03-07-2006 7:32 PM]