Gudris wrote:Nice season, but imagine this team next season with Porzingis in it

How does that even work ? Sign him for the MLE ? If we do trade Heart or Mitch ? I mean I get the idea of spacing he would provide but he is a poor rebounder. Not totally saying no, but maybe Brook Lopez is a better target.. or Kelly Olynk ?

Gudris wrote:Nice season, but imagine this team next season with Porzingis in it

I’d rather not

Clean wrote:Now that the season is over I can say this. This year has been amazing and we exceeded all expectations. The problem with that is that we overachieved. Overachieving got us to the second round. We can't run it back with this flawed roster. Amazing season considering our expectations but the roster skill level and construction is not nearly good enough to run back.

The problem is we don’t have enough 3 point shooting and it’s a 3 point league. We need to be careful with the extensions we start handing out this offseason. I’d give hart a 3 year $38 million deal with a team option for year 3 but nothing more. IQ this playoffs hopefully is a wake up call for the FO he needs to be traded now for picks

SergioNYK wrote:This sucks and it hurts. Even though I knew it was coming. I knew Miami would win this series after the first half of game one to be perfectly open and honest. I hate that franchise with the passion of a thousand suns and wish them nothing but the WORST going forward but they were the better and more experienced team. I just don't understand or respect all the flopping they do and I've lost a ton of respect for Bam Adebayo for the moving screens and how he injured four players in five games but whatever.

To take them to six games is a huge accomplishment. Miami is not the 8th seed IDGAF what they say. They were actually 7th and ended up 8th plus they were the 1st seed last year and made the ECF and NBA Finals two years ago. They have been one of the most successful franchises the last few decades while we have been a circus. Yet we almost took them to a game seven. You just have to hope this loss was necessary growing pains and we will learn and get better from it. But that is no guarantee.

Hats off to Brunson. He showed the world again he is a Super Star - 41 points on the road against that team. He was the best player in this series too. Even better than Butler. He tried his best to win this game by himself. I'm not even mad at the turnover there at the end. Shit happens. Kind of reminded me of Isiah Thomas' turnover against Boston in the 80s where Bird stole it and DJ got the layup. Isiah went on to win rings after that. I think Brunson can be face of a title contender. He might not look the part but he has the game, attitude and all the intangibles. But he needs help.

Disappointing game by RJ. But I'm proud overall of his playoffs. After a bad season he redeemed himself and had a strong playoffs. There is a lot to like about RJ and I wouldn't mind keeping him but he's got to improve that outside shot. You know he will work on it all summer.

I know Randle is a controversial topic in Knicks land but I think we've learned a lot and have our true answer. He is just not it. Not reliable as a number two or even a number three on a team that's looking for more then regular season success. I appreciate his efforts during the regular season but if we want to climb this mountain and get to an ECF and Finals, he needs to go. Too much baggage and question marks with him in terms of effort and mood. Can't have that with your number two. And I think a change would be good for him too. He's never going to be 'one of us'.

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Philc1 wrote:

Gudris wrote:Nice season, but imagine this team next season with Porzingis in it

I’d rather not

And maybe KD will force a trade here now that we're "cool."

Sure Evan, Randall and the Detroit and Dallas picks, lol

Thanks again for all your ScoreBot replacement posts. Will try to fix this in the offseason. Good stuff all year long and appreciate it.

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                    1    2    3    4     T
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Knicks 47-35       31   19   21   21    92
Heat 44-38         24   27   23   22    96
STARTERS              MINS   PTS     FG    3PT     FT  OFF  DEF  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF  +/-
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Q. Grimes G             31     3    1-6    1-6    0-0    0    2    2    3    1    0    0    1    3
J. Brunson G            45    42  14-22   5-10   9-10    0    4    4    3    3    1    0    4    4
J. Randle F             35    15   3-14    1-7    8-9    2    9   11    3    3    0    2    2    3
R. Barrett F            32    11   1-10    0-3   9-10    0    2    2    1    3    0    0    5   -6
M. Robinson C           28     2    0-2    0-0    2-2    5    6   11    1    0    0    1    2    0
BENCH                 MINS   PTS     FG    3PT     FT  OFF  DEF  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF  +/-
--------------------  ----  ----  -----  -----  -----  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---
J. Hart                 33    11   5-10    1-4    0-0    1    6    7    1    2    1    1    5   -3
I. Hartenstein          18     2    1-2    0-0    0-0    0    1    1    0    0    0    4    3   -3
O. Toppin               12     7    2-5    2-5    1-2    0    3    3    1    0    0    0    0   -6
M. McBride               2     0    0-0    0-0    0-0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0   -7
STARTERS              MINS   PTS     FG    3PT     FT  OFF  DEF  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF  +/-
--------------------  ----  ----  -----  -----  -----  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---  ---
G. Vincent G            31     7    3-8    1-5    0-0    1    2    3    5    2    1    0    4   11
M. Strus G              34    14   4-11    1-6    5-6    0    6    6    3    0    0    0    1    1
J. Butler F             41    24   7-22    0-3  10-11    1    7    8    4    0    1    0    2   -1
K. Love F               15     3    1-1    1-1    0-0    0    3    3    2    0    0    0    2   -4
B. Adebayo C            38    23   9-20    0-0    5-5    3    6    9    1    2    2    1    3   -7
BENCH                 MINS   PTS     FG    3PT     FT  OFF  DEF  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF  +/-
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K. Lowry                31    11    4-6    1-2    2-2    2    2    4    8    1    2    1    4   -1
C. Martin               24     8    3-7    1-3    1-1    0    5    5    1    1    1    0    3    4
D. Robinson             14     6    2-7    2-7    0-0    0    0    0    0    0    1    0    1    2
C. Zeller                9     0    0-0    0-0    0-0    0    2    2    1    1    0    0    2   10

Appreciate the efforts and the recaps. Good stuff man!

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But limiting Butler with double teams thereby making other less non all star players beat you is a bad strategy?

Someone wake me up when this makes sense.

martin wrote:IKD Clean, I wouldn't get too caught up with the Butler and doubling thing. Knicks maybe didn't execute those doubles and triple team very well or even close to correctly but let's not think that was the actual downfall of the Knicks.

When 3 of your starters go 3-14, 1-10 and 1-6, doubling and tripling Butler in a really close game probably is not the underlying problem.

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mindless was the right way to put it. The Heat showed us they will make us pay for doing it every game except game 5 but we never waivered from doing the same thing over and over. got to love those Thibs adjustments.

Of course, it's not like the other Knicks could get anything going.

Opportunities missed.

Quickley's absence really put us off-balance. In the Cleveland series, even though his offense was off, he still contributed strong D and was a capable ball handler at bringing it across center court and doing a little token movement without the ball.