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The Knicks (All-Time) have only had 2 seasons of 60+ wins (1969-1970 & 1992-1993)
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10/29/2021  1:19 PM
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Philc1 wrote:We started out 8-0 in 2012 and didnt win 60 games
we Lost KT, Camby, Kmart, Rasheed, and Amare missed some games.

Thats the only reason we didn't win 60

And J.R Smith was a freaking undisciplined CHUCKER.

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10/29/2021  5:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2021  5:53 PM
At 4-1, we are on pace to win 64 games. I think we win 55-60 games, which should be good for another top 4 finish in the East, and probably first or second place. It is still early but the team looks solid. Kemba really adds a new dimension to the offense.
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10/29/2021  6:48 PM
The quietly amusing part of this is I don't think this guy fully understands we'd all be genuinely trilled if he was right.

He wants it to be his thing ... badly.

This is just the sports marshmallow test being failed.

He wants his 60 win NOW dammit. He can' wait until the spring.

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10/29/2021  7:26 PM
Knickoftime wrote:The quietly amusing part of this is I don't think this guy fully understands we'd all be genuinely trilled if he was right.

He wants it to be his thing ... badly.

This is just the sports marshmallow test being failed.

He wants his 60 win NOW dammit. He can' wait until the spring.

I just know a special team when I see one.

This Knicks team will win the most games in Franchise history this year.

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10/29/2021  7:38 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:The quietly amusing part of this is I don't think this guy fully understands we'd all be genuinely trilled if he was right.

He wants it to be his thing ... badly.

This is just the sports marshmallow test being failed.

He wants his 60 win NOW dammit. He can' wait until the spring.

I just know a special team when I see one.

This Knicks team will win the most games in Franchise history this year.

Hope so.

Just some of us haven given ourselves much better odds of enjoying the season and not getting frustrated and disappointed.

The BEST part is there are no bonus points awarded for a prediction and zealotry. We get to enjoy 60 more wins just as much as you do IF they win 60.

So we got that going for us ... which is nice.

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10/30/2021  9:36 PM
1992-1993 NY Knicks = 4-2 (after first 6 games).

2021-2022 NY Knicks = 5-1 (after first 6 games).

Something magical is happening for our New York Knicks under Tom Thibs and it's exciting!

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10/31/2021  12:02 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:We started out 8-0 in 2012 and didn’t win 60 games

we Lost KT, Camby, Kmart, Rasheed, and Amare missed some games.

Thats the only reason we didn't win 60

Do you have any idea how hard it is to win 60+ games? That’s like winning 14+ games in a season for a NFL team

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10/31/2021  12:05 PM
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Philc1 wrote:We started out 8-0 in 2012 and didn;t win 60 games

That team was all Melo ball and was nowhere near as deep as 2021s team.

And you're wrong. They started off 6-0 not "8-0".

They also had two different 4 game losing streaks. And that will not happen to this team being led by coach Thibs.

Coach Thibs is also 100x the leader than Woodson was.

If you think 2012-2013s team was more firepower than 2021-2022s imo that's FUNNY.

What do you think of these Jets fans trying to blame Zach Wilson’s sucking on Mike Lafleur?

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11/1/2021  1:44 PM
I see a lot of similarities between these two teams in regards to overall veteran experience combined with youth (and Julius Randle and R.J. Barrett is our Patrick Ewing and John Starks in terms of star power) along with head coaching leadership (with Tom Thibs being our Pat Riley).

1992-1993 Knicks

Pat Riley = 11th year HC (2nd year as Knicks HC).

Herb Williams = 12th year player.
Rolando Blackman = 12th year player.
Doc Rivers = 10th year player.
Tony Campbell = 9th year player.
Patrick Ewing = 8th year player.
Charles Oakley = 8th year player.
Charles Smith = 5th year player.
John Starks = 4th year player.
Anthony Mason = 4th year player.
Greg Anthony = 2nd year player.
Hubert Davis = Rookie.

2021-2022 Knicks

Tom Thibs = 10th year HC (2nd year as Knicks HC).

Taj Gibson = 13th year player.
Derrick Rose = 13th year player.
Kemba Walker = 11th year player.
Alec Burks = 11th year player.
Evan Fournier = 10th year player.
Julius Randle = 8th year player.
Nerlens Noel = 8th year player.
Mitchell Robinson = 4th year player.
R.J. Barrett = 3rd year player.
Obi Toppin = 2nd year player.
Immanuel Quickley = 2nd year player.

This 2021-2022 New York Knicks squad is the deepest team both talent wise and deoth wise that we've ever been since dating back to the early 1990's

C: Patrick Ewing vs. Mitchell Robinson.
PF: Charles Oakley vs. Julius Randle.
SF: Charles Smith vs. R.J. Barrett.
SG: John Starks vs. Evan Fournier.
PG: Doc Rivers vs. Kemba Walker.
6th Man: Anthony Mason vs. Derrick Rose.

1992-1993 Role Players = Greg Anthony, Tony Campbell, Rolando Blackman, Herb Williams and Hubert Davis.

Vs.

2021-2022 Role Players = Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel, Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley and Taj Gibson.

It's been 29 years going on 30 years since our fan base has witnessed a 60 win New York Knicks team under Pat Riley and I truly believe that our current 2021-2022's New York Knicks team under Tom Thibs will become the team to do it. And that's because we're freaking FULLY LOADED!

1992-1993's team did not jump out of the gates as hot as our current 2021-2022's team.

■ After 7 games our Knicks of 1992-1993 were 4-3.

■ After 7 games our Knicks of 2021-2022 will be 6-1 (with a win vs. Toronto tonight).

After 6 games our 1992-1993 team had a point differential of +7 points (577 points scored and 570 points allowed).

After 6 games our 2021-2022 team has a point differential of +43 points (702 points scored and 659 points allowed).

Stay Healthy and nothing is stopping our 2021-2022 Knicks team and thankfully we won't be running into a Michael Jordan/Scottie Pippen led Chicago Bulls team as our Knicks of 1992-1993 had to (come the Eastern Conference Finals)

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11/1/2021  1:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2021  1:51 PM
NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 NY Knicks = 4-2 (after first 6 games).

2021-2022 NY Knicks = 5-1 (after first 6 games).

Something magical is happening for our New York Knicks under Tom Thibs and it's exciting!

This would look even more exciting if you converted games to minutes! Homer on! I like it!

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11/1/2021  1:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2021  5:29 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:The quietly amusing part of this is I don't think this guy fully understands we'd all be genuinely trilled if he was right.

He wants it to be his thing ... badly.

This is just the sports marshmallow test being failed.

He wants his 60 win NOW dammit. He can' wait until the spring.

I just know a special team when I see one.

This Knicks team will win the most games in Franchise history this year.

Hope so.

Just some of us haven given ourselves much better odds of enjoying the season and not getting frustrated and disappointed.

The BEST part is there are no bonus points awarded for a prediction and zealotry. We get to enjoy 60 more wins just as much as you do IF they win 60.

So we got that going for us ... which is nice.

But "we" WON'T have his I TOLD YOU SO joy... not that that counts towards bonus points, but...

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11/1/2021  2:03 PM
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NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 NY Knicks = 4-2 (after first 6 games).

2021-2022 NY Knicks = 5-1 (after first 6 games).

Something magical is happening for our New York Knicks under Tom Thibs and it's exciting!

This would look even more exciting if you converted games to minutes! Homer on! I like it!

Games to minutes? What?

The only thing that matters are Wins and Loses.

And after tonight vs. Toronto?

2021-2022's Knicks will be 6-1 in comparison to 1992-1993's Knicks @ 4-3 (after 7 games).

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11/1/2021  4:33 PM
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NYKMentality wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:The quietly amusing part of this is I don't think this guy fully understands we'd all be genuinely trilled if he was right.

He wants it to be his thing ... badly.

This is just the sports marshmallow test being failed.

He wants his 60 win NOW dammit. He can' wait until the spring.

I just know a special team when I see one.

This Knicks team will win the most games in Franchise history this year.

Hope so.

Just some of us haven given ourselves much better odds of enjoying the season and not getting frustrated and disappointed.

The BEST part is there are no bonus points awarded for a prediction and zealotry. We get to enjoy 60 more wins just as much as you do IF they win 60.

So we got that going for us ... which is nice.

Frustrated and disappointed? What are you talking about?

I'm a longtime suffering Knicks fan (we all are) who deeply misses the 1990s where we made the playoffs every single year (we all do).

So far in the 2020's we're 1-0 @ making the playoffs and 2021-2022 will make 2-0. And I'm enjoying it.

And nothing about 2021-2022's team is frustrating to me and why? Because I already love this team and get excited for them before each and every single game.

I'm not here to tell anyone "I told you so" however throughout all of my years as a Knicks poster on multiple forums I've never once predicted a 60 win team. Not even heading into 2012-2013 I didn't. This is a first for me.

I'm just here to spread my enthusiasm and belief in this 2021-2022 team and that's because I truly believe in all 4 of 1.) Our coach. 2.) Our talent. 3.) Our depth from top to bottom and 4.) Our MAX POTENTIAL.

You on the other hand?

You get 0 bonus points for telling us this isn't a 60 win team and you get no bonus points for telling us this isn't a championship contending team. You're only correcting me throughout this thread in order to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

I bet my local bookie a Boston Celtics fan $100 that we'll win 60 games this year before the season started and he put up $7,000 saying that we wouldn't. So if we don't win 60? Big deal. I'm out of $100 but right now I know he's scared of our bet and if we do win 60 games? I'll enjoy that free $7k more than you telling me it wasn't possible. He laughed at my 60 win prediction but right now I'm confident in it.

Yes. If the Knicks win 60 games I'll enjoy it more than you and if not? Oh well. I'm only out of $100.

That 2012-2013 team won 54 games. This 2021-2022 team is WAY DEEPER has way more defensive ability and more offensive firepower too.

■ You get no bonus points for saying "I TOLD YOU SO" if the Knicks fail to win 60 games but my $100 bet for $7k has me fired up.

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11/1/2021  5:00 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:The quietly amusing part of this is I don't think this guy fully understands we'd all be genuinely trilled if he was right.

He wants it to be his thing ... badly.

This is just the sports marshmallow test being failed.

He wants his 60 win NOW dammit. He can' wait until the spring.

I just know a special team when I see one.

This Knicks team will win the most games in Franchise history this year.

Hope so.

Just some of us haven given ourselves much better odds of enjoying the season and not getting frustrated and disappointed.

The BEST part is there are no bonus points awarded for a prediction and zealotry. We get to enjoy 60 more wins just as much as you do IF they win 60.

So we got that going for us ... which is nice.

Frustrated and disappointed? What are you talking about?

I'm a longtime suffering Knicks fan (we all are) who deeply misses the 1990s where we made the playoffs every single year (we all do).

So far in the 2020's we're 1-0 @ making the playoffs and 2021-2022 will make 2-0. And I'm enjoying it.

And nothing about 2021-2022's team is frustrating to me and why? Because I already love this team and get excited for them before each and every single game.

I'm not here to tell anyone "I told you so" however throughout all of my years as a Knicks poster on multiple forums I've never once predicted a 60 win team. Not even heading into 2012-2013 I didn't. This is a first for me.

I'm just here to spread my enthusiasm and belief in this 2021-2022 team and that's because I truly believe in all 4 of 1.) Our coach. 2.) Our talent. 3.) Our depth from top to bottom and 4.) Our MAX POTENTIAL.

You on the other hand?

You get 0 bonus points for telling us this isn't a 60 win team and you get no bonus points for telling us this isn't a championship contending team. You're only correcting me throughout this thread in order to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

I bet my local bookie a Boston Celtics fan $100 that we'll win 60 games this year before the season started and he put up $7,000 saying that we wouldn't. So if we don't win 60? Big deal. I'm out of $100 but right now I know he's scared of our bet and if we do win 60 games? I'll enjoy that free $7k more than you telling me it wasn't possible. He laughed at my 60 win prediction but right now I'm confident in it.

Yes. If the Knicks win 60 games I'll enjoy it more than you and if not? Oh well. I'm only out of $100.

That 2012-2013 team won 54 games. This 2021-2022 team is WAY DEEPER has way more defensive ability and more offensive firepower too.

■ You get no bonus points for saying "I TOLD YOU SO" if the Knicks fail to win 60 games but my $100 bet for $7k has me fired up.


Thats awesome!!! We are all rooting for you! You own that Sugar/XTC rush and hope you get that payout! In fact, go ahead and spend it since you so confident! LOL, don't.
Better yet, open a robinhood account and get with Briggs on some stock ideas and buy it on margin.
Then, go to a casino and ask 1248 to bet black or red. Do the opposite, surefire way to win!!!!

All kidding aside, best of luck!!!!

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11/1/2021  5:19 PM
Nalod wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 NY Knicks = 4-2 (after first 6 games).

2021-2022 NY Knicks = 5-1 (after first 6 games).

Something magical is happening for our New York Knicks under Tom Thibs and it's exciting!

This would look even more exciting if you converted games to minutes! Homer on! I like it!
Games to minutes? What?

The only thing that matters are Wins and Loses.

And after tonight vs. Toronto?

2021-2022's Knicks will be 6-1 in comparison to 1992-1993's Knicks @ 4-3 (after 7 games).

Many of us watch a lot of ball and have for a long time. Your objectivity is just as valid as any one else who is not on a sugar rush/XTC high.
I appreciate the enthusiasm. But your really trying hard to convince us of what was, and what could be.
Its been said nobody really here would object to this being the greatest knick team like ever. You won't own it though. Best way to is by putting some nice money down. Then Tell us the odds, how much, and the payout before it happens.
Then you own it. THe payout will be yours to enjoy. Now, if the team falls short likely nobody will mind unless you keep doing this every year. Then your a broken clock.

Last year I bet $777 @ +1,400 odds that we would JUST MAKE THE PLAYOFFS and returned $11,655 in return.

This year? Our playoff odds were -150 (not enough to return a big payout)

so what did I do?

Bet my local bookie $100 for $7k in return that NY would win 60 games and it's a bet our bookie laughed at me for but one that I truly believe in.

But a broken clock? Be real man. I've posted as a Knicks fan on these boards now for many of years and I've never once predicted a 60 win Knicks team. This is a first for me.

And if 2012-2013s team could win 54 games? This 2021-2022 team can 100% win 60 (as long as we remain healthy).

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11/1/2021  5:40 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 NY Knicks = 4-2 (after first 6 games).

2021-2022 NY Knicks = 5-1 (after first 6 games).

Something magical is happening for our New York Knicks under Tom Thibs and it's exciting!

This would look even more exciting if you converted games to minutes! Homer on! I like it!

Games to minutes? What?

The only thing that matters are Wins and Loses.

And after tonight vs. Toronto?

2021-2022's Knicks will be 6-1 in comparison to 1992-1993's Knicks @ 4-3 (after 7 games).

2011-2012 NY Knicks after 13 days/288 minutes = 6-0

2021-2022 NY Knicks after only 10 DAYS/288 minutes PLUS TWO OT = 5-1!

See how that works!

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11/1/2021  6:27 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
Nalod wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:1992-1993 NY Knicks = 4-2 (after first 6 games).

2021-2022 NY Knicks = 5-1 (after first 6 games).

Something magical is happening for our New York Knicks under Tom Thibs and it's exciting!

This would look even more exciting if you converted games to minutes! Homer on! I like it!
Games to minutes? What?

The only thing that matters are Wins and Loses.

And after tonight vs. Toronto?

2021-2022's Knicks will be 6-1 in comparison to 1992-1993's Knicks @ 4-3 (after 7 games).

Many of us watch a lot of ball and have for a long time. Your objectivity is just as valid as any one else who is not on a sugar rush/XTC high.
I appreciate the enthusiasm. But your really trying hard to convince us of what was, and what could be.
Its been said nobody really here would object to this being the greatest knick team like ever. You won't own it though. Best way to is by putting some nice money down. Then Tell us the odds, how much, and the payout before it happens.
Then you own it. THe payout will be yours to enjoy. Now, if the team falls short likely nobody will mind unless you keep doing this every year. Then your a broken clock.

Last year I bet $777 @ +1,400 odds that we would JUST MAKE THE PLAYOFFS and returned $11,655 in return.

This year? Our playoff odds were -150 (not enough to return a big payout)

so what did I do?

Bet my local bookie $100 for $7k in return that NY would win 60 games and it's a bet our bookie laughed at me for but one that I truly believe in.

But a broken clock? Be real man. I've posted as a Knicks fan on these boards now for many of years and I've never once predicted a 60 win Knicks team. This is a first for me.

And if 2012-2013s team could win 54 games? This 2021-2022 team can 100% win 60 (as long as we remain healthy).



Wish you would have posted that last year before last season.
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11/1/2021  8:35 PM
NYKMentality wrote:1969-1970 Knicks = 60-22.
1992-1993 Knicks = 60-22.

Those were winning percentages of .732%.

I wasn't alive for that 1969-1970 season but I remember as a kid watching those 1992-1993 Knicks with...

HC: Pat Riley.

C: Patrick Ewing.
PF: Charles Oakley.
SF: Charles Smith.
SG: John Starks.
PG: Doc Rivers.

C: Herb Williams.
PF: Anthony Mason.
SF: Tony Campbell.
SG: Rolando Blackman / Hubert Davis.
PG: Greg Anthony.

I loved those early 1990s Knicks but imo 2021-2022's squad is deeper and has more potential to become deadly.

During the preseason I predicted 60 win potential this year because imo we're absolutely fully loaded in talent from top to bottom.

HC: Tom Thibs.

C: Mitchell Robinson.
PF: Julius Randle.
SF: R.J. Barrett.
SG: Evan Fournier.
PG: Kemba Walker.

C: Nerlens Noel.
PF: Obi Toppin.
SF: Alec Burks.
SG: Immanuel Quickley.
PG: Derrick Rose.

Taj Gibson.

Yes. Of course. I'm giving the 1992-1993 Knicks an advantage. Due to #33 Patrick Ewing. Our greatest player of All-Time.

But outside of Ewing? I'm taking this 2021-2022 team from top to bottom.

We are fully loaded with an amazing mixture of veterans and young talents surrounding an All-Star in his prime Julius Randle. 3 PT shooting ability. Defense. Heart. It's all here.

We're going to crack 60 wins for only the 3rd time ever and I just want our fan base to know we're on the verge of witnessing something special.

This team is crazy deep and last years postseason birth was the beginning of something magical

We'll see tonight @ Chicago. I promise you. NY isn't leaving without a WIN @ 4-1 overall.

I LOVE YOUR OPTIMISM. You remind me of me when I first came on this forum, years ago. And one thing I realized about this forum is almost everybody was either punch drunk or walking that thin line of jumping to another team. So you are going to get attacked by all the pessimistic old school fans. I was more optimistic during our bad years, and it was like climbing a mountain of pessimism during every chat or post. So you’re like a breath of fresh air brother. Don’t let them change you 😉

With that said, 5 or 8 yrs old is a little too young to really understand or appreciate the team in the early 90s…. But just my opinion I could be wrong. You also have fans in here that lived through the late 70s or early 80s of post championship suffering years. So you have to understand, some of us are punch drunk and tired of every season feeling like a roller coaster. It makes the let down less impactful if you set lower goals. But I like that 100 to win 7k. So I appreciate the enthusiasm.

You already said the one thing I was waiting to here u say. IF WE STAY HEALTHY. And with that health assumption I might agree with you. But it’s still a pipe dream because like u said, we only did it twice in 75 years. And we have 3 key players that have a injury filled history. Kemba, Rose, Money Mich. They all play a vital roll on this team.

But I agree that last year was the start of something special. We proved everyone wrong and beat the odds. This year I believe we will do the same. Over achieve and beat the odds. I wouldn’t be surprised if we win 60 or 30. I’ve seen this roller coaster before. I like to wait until we are more than 5 games in to make bold predictions. I’m waiting to see how those 3 guys hold up physically.

Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland. The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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11/2/2021  10:03 AM
now we gotta go win like 6 of the next 7 to stay in the 60 win conversation and we have 3 games vs. the Bucks coming up. If we lose one or two of those we will need to run off a good 8 or 10 win streak to get back on track. See how hard this is?

A 50 win season would be great and while I disagree you can see why Vegas picked us to win 42.5

Knicks are 2-2 at home. Lets just enjoy the journey here.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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11/2/2021  10:25 AM
Making the playoffs nets a $777 bet into over 11 grand? That really a thing? Just make the playoffs?
The Knicks (All-Time) have only had 2 seasons of 60+ wins (1969-1970 & 1992-1993)

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