1,449!

Most likely won't be on tomorrow morning, so 1,448!

Posted by Marv:

Below that 1450 mark. Major psychological hurdle.

I'm glad for Powell that he's out but not for the rest of us. Boy do I feel good about the "braintrust" of Bush, Condi ("Mrs. Bush"), Rummy and Cheney.

I am glad for Powell, but sad for the country. I think he stood his ground to impenetrable forces as best he could.

decent read

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/18/opinion/18dowd.html

A Plague of Toadies
By MAUREEN DOWD

Those promoted to be in charge of our security, diplomacy and civil liberties were rewarded for being more loyal to President Bush and Dick Cheney than to the truth.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
NOVEMBER 18, 2004
1:01 PM
CONTACT: Berkeley Media Relations
Marie Felde mff@uclink.berkeley.edu
510-642-3734

UC Berkeley Research Team Sounds 'Smoke Alarm' for Florida E-Vote Count
Statistical Analysis - the Sole Method for Tracking E-Voting - Shows
Irregularities May Have Awarded 130,000 - 260,000 or More Excess Votes
to Bush in Florida
Research Team Calls for Investigation


BERKELEY, CA -- November 18 -- Today the University of California's
Berkeley Quantitative Methods Research Team released a statistical
study - the sole method available to monitor the accuracy of e- voting
- reporting irregularities associated with electronic voting machines
may have awarded 130,000-260,000 or more excess votes to President
George W. Bush in Florida in the 2004 presidential election. The study
shows an unexplained discrepancy between votes for President Bush in
counties where electronic voting machines were used versus counties
using traditional voting methods - what the team says can be deemed a
"smoke alarm." Discrepancies this large or larger rarely arise by
chance - the probability is less than 0.1 percent. The research team
formally disclosed results of the study at a press conference today at
the UC Berkeley Survey Research Center, where they called on Florida
voting officials to investigate.

The three counties where the voting anomalies were most prevalent were
also the most heavily Democratic: Broward, Palm Beach and Miami-Dade,
respectively. Statistical patterns in counties that did not have
e-touch voting machines predict a 28,000 vote decrease in President
Bush's support in Broward County; machines tallied an increase of
51,000 votes - a net gain of 81,000 for the incumbent. President Bush
should have lost 8,900 votes in Palm Beach County, but instead gained
41,000 - a difference of 49,900. He should have gained only 18,400
votes in Miami-Dade County but saw a gain of 37,000 - a difference of
19,300 votes.

"For the sake of all future elections involving electronic voting -
someone must investigate and explain the statistical anomalies in
Florida," says Professor Michael Hout. "We're calling on voting
officials in Florida to take action."

The research team is comprised of doctoral students and faculty in the
UC Berkeley sociology department, and led by Sociology Professor
Michael Hout, a nationally-known expert on statistical methods and a
member of the National Academy of Sciences and the UC Berkeley Survey
Research Center.

For its research, the team used multiple-regression analysis, a
statistical method widely used in the social and physical sciences to
distinguish the individual effects of many variables on quantitative
outcomes like vote totals. This multiple-regression analysis takes into
account of the following variables by county:

* Number of voters
* Median income
* Hispanic/Latino population
* Change in voter turnout between 2000 and 2004
* Support for Senator Dole in the 1996 election
* Support for President Bush in the 2000 election.
* Use of electronic voting or paper ballots


"No matter how many factors and variables we took into consideration,
the significant correlation in the votes for President Bush and
electronic voting cannot be explained," said Hout. "The study shows,
that a county's use of electronic voting resulted in a disproportionate
increase in votes for President Bush. There is just a trivial
probability of evidence like this appearing in a population where the
true difference is zero - less than once in a thousand chances."

The data used in this study came from public sources including CNN.com,
the 2000 US Census, and the Verified Voting Foundation.
For a copy of the working paper, raw data and other information used in
the study can be found at: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu .

Posted by MaTT4281:

1,446. Next update: Saturday morning.

Yeah even the win doesn't change this fact. Have a good one.

we hear ya.

I don't think Congress would ever approve an appeal to that ammendment. If Bush is re-reelected, Canada is going to be seeing much more of me.

Bogus my ass,there were two bills in congress last year that tried to do just that.There are politicians on both side of the aisle that want to do it so Clinton and Bush can run again.Doesnt mean it will happen but its more than just a rumour.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/000176.html