Uptown wrote:Nalod wrote:jrodmc wrote:Nalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Actually all of our Past coaches were good guys who can be added to a coaching staff, (except rambis) They just were not Head coach materialMills 2 biggest blunders was KP and Fizdale
Phils biggest Blunder was the Triangle, Frank and KP.
Hope fully Leon doesn't have the one blunder that does him in
What was Phils mistake with KP? Drafting him? Or not trading him?
Phil's mistake was not owning the team so he could be a piss-ant Prez with no exec experience and act like a egotisic old jackass to the only star players on the team who wouldn't kiss his rings. Not that Melo and KP weren't *******s as well (be still, NALOD), but management is supposed to be bigger than that.
Or maybe it was just he didn't stay woke. Literally.
If hindsight told us anything it was Phil was more “Woke” then he realized when he wanted to trade KP Before he got hurt. Granted Phil had flaws as an exec, but he was thinking like a coach when he wanted to trade him. You forget Phils history of understanding players was his STRENGTH. You forget he coached 11 chips. Discount that to prove a point is ignorant. He saw a petulant malcontent in KP and wanted him gone. He saw an anemic weak lower core kid with crazy talent but from the moment he drafted him telegraphed he faced an uphill battle to unicorn status. He was arrogant and should have kept his mouth closed but its not anything other teams could not figure themselves. But teams wanted him and lets just say in hindsight we would have done better if PHil traded him.
Defending Phil? I’m putting things in perspective. Trying to install a Triangle culture Without Tex Winter or someone up it to a modern pace was his fatal flaw. He saw the potential in Frank. That franks body has not matured to handle the rigors of the NBA might be biological as he is still young. Time will tell.
Knicks are not the first team to draft a young player and not have him materialize.
He saw that Derrick Rose could return if healthy. Timeline was not in synch but eventually it worked itself thru. Noah was a miscalculation for sure. No shyt. Fish was a good idea but he really was not ready as a person. The Phil experiment was a good idea but badly executed.
Let’s not forget Dolan was desperate then, Irving Azoff a big name in music brokered the seduction. Phil had to bet talked into it. He as slated to run Steve Balmers purchase of a team rumored to be SAC and put it in Seattle. He left Jeannie. He was given 12 mil for 5 years. He relented. He should have done better. He didn’t. Cruel as it was, Balmer gets Clippers and he could have stayed in LA.
phil was brought in to add stability and a championship pedigree, yet he only added to the circus. He was a disaster who stole money....
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Some forgot coaching is not Presidenting. Counting it as executive experience is a pure non-starter as a premise. Akin to being a GOAT player gives you immediate credence as a coach. He wasn't being paid to understand players, historical or otherwise. If he knew all that so well, why give Melo a NTC? Why draft the unicorn to begin with? Why draft a soft euro French kid who wasn't built to sustain an NBA triangle immediately after he drafted the brittle petulant Latvian kid? IF HE UNDERSTOOD ALL THIS SO WELL, WHY THE FUHUCQUE WERE WE SO HISTORICALLY DAMNED BAD FOR 3 YEARS?
The bold above is all one needs to know. The rest is ancient history that has no relation to the dysfunction he brought. Anything else is just defending an old coach who proved to be disgustingly overpaid, woefully under-qualified, and completely in over his head. He effed over Melo who showed he still had gas in the tank.
He said playoffs, then tanked, then rebuilt with old **** and then ripped it all apart while pissing on people's heads because his ego and his rings allowed him to.
Anyone else pulls the **** Phil did and we'd all be trying to figure out if they were actually worse than IT as an executive.