knicks1248 wrote:All im asking is that why not deal with experience ppl who have had success in the NBA as oppose to gambling with another in experience coach/gm after seeing two 17 win seasons in the last 3 yrs, and not really paying off in the draft
What about a coach who in 8 seasons had a .589 winning record?
Who in the 7 full seasons he coached took his teams to the playoffs 6 times?
.589!!!!!!!
That's better than Coach Bud!!!!!!
Should we hire this winning coach??
Its Thibs!!!!!!!
I know, Rainman/1248 wants a "Winning coach" who never been fired before!!!! Bud was close. I agree, should have hired him. But that's done with.
Reality..............if you want a winning guy 1248, Miller, who I like, is not your guy. not experienced enough.
Coach Kenny? .383 winning. I know, he did a good job and I like him too. But your all like "I want winning guys".......
You want Thibs. Even if you know you have to fire him in a few years.
Ok, imagine this........mind blowing......but imagine if you hire him but on the premise he can't over play and ruin the young guys, that he manage minutes and not sleep at the practice facility, and not "Work too hard"...........What about that? That coach can actually learn from mistakes and build on his acumen.
Is that possible or we just think all coaches just stay the same? Like these super bright motivated humans never actually grow?
Or, sign him for 5 years, fire him after four when we made the conf. finals but did not move ahead? That ok?
This is Thibs. Larry brown did the same shyt and then he had to go In retrospect, you fire Isiah and let unleash larry and should have let him build it. We know he burns it down, but at least we build it!!!!
What have we learned? WE hire the right people for the wrong job, then don't give them enough time to finish it. Only Isiah was given free reign but it took a sexual harassment judgement against knicks and plea from stern to get his ass out! since its hindsight, you leave Layden he would not have done any worse than Isiah. Donnie? Don't force Melo trade I think we do no worse. Grunwald? WE get 54 win team. Phil? leave him be he'd traded KP for better value. convinced we better off not firing guys and they had done better. Mills? Lets see what happens. I hope Leon breaks the chain!!! Knicks so low I can't fathom it being that much worse.
Blame. Read up on Glen Taylor. The guy is very Dolanesque. Impatient and overly loyal at times. Funny, Hires Scott Layden after he was with the Spurs. I guess if Pop hired him he is sort of "Baptized" as good? SO Thibs was president, Layden was GM. Taylor fires him. Says then "We keep it that president will not be connected with basketball decisions". He then hires Rosa's who Layden reports to, keeps Shaun Saunders (very young). Team got worse after thibs left. From what I recall Butler was the heart and soul of the team. HE wanted to be in Minny with Thibs. Issue was KAT and Wiggins was not down with Thibs and Butler. Butler saw the future and it was KAT and Wiggins so he forced his way out. Taylor was upset with Thibs. Dolanesque, he panics.
This does not obsolve Thibs of all his sins but I think Leon knows the real deal, and if Thibs needs to modify some things they are bright people.
Does this guarantee anything? Of course not. It might be logical but Knicks defy it all the time!