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BigDaddyG
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4/1/2020 9:39 PM LAST EDITED: 4/1/2020 9:42 PM
BRIGGS wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:it's rare that Briggs and I agree at the top of the draft, for example, Beasley over Rose. That said I tend to agree with him here. While I do not like that he can't shoot a three, he has everything else. He also seems to understand how to play and that makes sense considering he has been coached by Penny Hardaway for most of his competitive years I'd argue that he doesn't have more polish than Drummond. Drummond realized that early on that it wasn't in his best interest to take fadeway Js, so he didn't take them. Wiseman takes them, but might not make enough of them to consider a strength. What would you prefer? Wiseman, just like Andre, would absolutely jump off the draft board in another era. But Wiseman doesn't fit today's perimeter oriented game. When you look at Wiseman and Mitch, the only reason you choose Wiseman is because you think his offense is significantly better. But it isn't and his defensive versatility isn't close to Mitch's. If you draft Wiseman as a project, that's cool. When you consider there are other prospects out there with a ceiling that's just as high, or higher, that fit positional needs, then it doesn't make sense for us to take Wiseman that high. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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franco12
Posts: 33150 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
4/2/2020 9:02 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:it's rare that Briggs and I agree at the top of the draft, for example, Beasley over Rose. That said I tend to agree with him here. While I do not like that he can't shoot a three, he has everything else. He also seems to understand how to play and that makes sense considering he has been coached by Penny Hardaway for most of his competitive years After watching that video, no way do I want to take Wiseman. I know these things can be taken out of context, but he looks so much worse than mitch. Physical talent is more than simply being tall and muscular. It's about coordination, dexterity. Dude looks super clumsy. The thing I love about Mitch is he doesn't take shots he can't make. He doesn't need to. I'd look to take PGs with our picks. Unless there is some better player available by a wide margin. |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/2/2020 9:56 AM
franco12 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:it's rare that Briggs and I agree at the top of the draft, for example, Beasley over Rose. That said I tend to agree with him here. While I do not like that he can't shoot a three, he has everything else. He also seems to understand how to play and that makes sense considering he has been coached by Penny Hardaway for most of his competitive years Difference between mitch and Wiseman. I understand what u r saying/- is it enough to draft over mitch so to speak. The answer— my answer is yes. Wiseman will end up at 265-270 a number that would take away mitch’s game. The biggie is that at that bigger size he has a much more advanced offensive game. He’s got great form and solid footwork. Tgis will end up being a massive difference between the two. I’m certainly not opposed to having both on my team— San Antonio won a title with Robinson and Duncan. In the first set of players. I’m very high on 3 players. Killian Hayes Obi Toppin abd Wiseman( the latter as pick 1. Each one has efficient fundamental offense that I believe Translate to the nba well. For example watch Killian Hayes release his jump shot versus Halliburton. Hayes jumpsuit will be able to translate I’m not sure about Halliburton. Hayes has more hops( like toppin abd wiseman) than his pg counterparts and I could see some teams who need a pg take Hayes even as high as pick 1 if they do don’t have a center etc..
RIP Crushalot😞
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33767 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
4/2/2020 10:16 AM
franco12 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:it's rare that Briggs and I agree at the top of the draft, for example, Beasley over Rose. That said I tend to agree with him here. While I do not like that he can't shoot a three, he has everything else. He also seems to understand how to play and that makes sense considering he has been coached by Penny Hardaway for most of his competitive years We don't really know what to expect from Wiseman. I really wanted to see him in conference and NCAA tourney. The guy was the top prospect heading into the NCAA this year. Penny Hardaway got the job at Memphis and said they were gonna win teh tournament in large part because he got Wiseman. Penny had been the top AAU coach in the country IMHO so his opinion matters more to me than most rookie HCs Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
4/2/2020 10:28 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:franco12 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:BRIGGS wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:it's rare that Briggs and I agree at the top of the draft, for example, Beasley over Rose. That said I tend to agree with him here. While I do not like that he can't shoot a three, he has everything else. He also seems to understand how to play and that makes sense considering he has been coached by Penny Hardaway for most of his competitive years Sc— you would’ve never seen Wiseman in any tourney. He quit Memphis after 3 games. RIP Crushalot😞
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