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meloshouldgo
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4/7/2020  1:49 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/world/coronavirus-live-updates.html?#link-179c5b11

The Schumer/Pelosi faction spent days forcing the GOP turnout in oversight of how the $2T getting spent. Right? So how about them apples??

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meloshouldgo wrote: I am saying organize civil disobedience efforts outside of the political system and continue doing that till it becomes a movement. Yes it will take popular or charismatic people to lead that but there are plenty of those. There is no "in the meantime" any more - from a global warming aspect we are already past the point of no return. Need disruptive action now. This is why we need more and more people to help create awareness and you need a symbolic rallying point like Greta Thunberg. March on DC in large numbers. The Me Too movement did it. Demonstrate outside congress. Clog up wall street - spam their phone systems, hijack their network connectivity, boycott large banks in masses, bring the fight to the system. Basically wake the **** up and demand change at all levels right now. And disrupt BAU in any way possible. All of these can be started by a relatively small group of people. And no it doesn't guarantee a favorable outcome but we literally have nothing to lose.

LMAO While the angry little corporate financial executive (who apparently hated this US capitalist ****hole enough to immigrate and work here) types on his Apple and sips his cappuccino. And has Bobo adjust the AC, since the temperature's a bit balmy outside now. Sheer genius. Guess you missed the whole ****ing in the tarps while watching porn on Iphones Occupy Wall Street anarchist bull****, huh? Or did you just notice they accomplished little by trying to piss in the dog bowl?

Hey Mr. I Can Run The World Properly, did you notice the stupid idiots standing in the rain and snow in Wisconsin in your fair and balanced NY Times link above, casting their useless ****ing primary votes? Bet you just sniffed and spit up at the pic of the ignorant ******* old lady standing there, using a walker.
You would have a hell of a lot more credibility, if you actually served this country in some capacity before running your bunched panties up the flagpole to destroy everything. I didn't get to live in a communistj-run state. I've just got family that served and fought and died for your ability to cast your "useless vote".


I have a better idea for you. Move to Iceland. Get elected, and take over the world from there, Brain. I hear the flights are really cheap now.

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4/8/2020  6:17 PM
jrodmc wrote:https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Revolution+1+beatles&qpvt=Revolution+1+beatles&FORM=VDRE

meloshouldgo wrote: I am saying organize civil disobedience efforts outside of the political system and continue doing that till it becomes a movement. Yes it will take popular or charismatic people to lead that but there are plenty of those. There is no "in the meantime" any more - from a global warming aspect we are already past the point of no return. Need disruptive action now. This is why we need more and more people to help create awareness and you need a symbolic rallying point like Greta Thunberg. March on DC in large numbers. The Me Too movement did it. Demonstrate outside congress. Clog up wall street - spam their phone systems, hijack their network connectivity, boycott large banks in masses, bring the fight to the system. Basically wake the **** up and demand change at all levels right now. And disrupt BAU in any way possible. All of these can be started by a relatively small group of people. And no it doesn't guarantee a favorable outcome but we literally have nothing to lose.

LMAO While the angry little corporate financial executive (who apparently hated this US capitalist ****hole enough to immigrate and work here) types on his Apple and sips his cappuccino. And has Bobo adjust the AC, since the temperature's a bit balmy outside now. Sheer genius. Guess you missed the whole ****ing in the tarps while watching porn on Iphones Occupy Wall Street anarchist bull****, huh? Or did you just notice they accomplished little by trying to piss in the dog bowl?

Hey Mr. I Can Run The World Properly, did you notice the stupid idiots standing in the rain and snow in Wisconsin in your fair and balanced NY Times link above, casting their useless ****ing primary votes? Bet you just sniffed and spit up at the pic of the ignorant ******* old lady standing there, using a walker.
You would have a hell of a lot more credibility, if you actually served this country in some capacity before running your bunched panties up the flagpole to destroy everything. I didn't get to live in a communistj-run state. I've just got family that served and fought and died for your ability to cast your "useless vote".


I have a better idea for you. Move to Iceland. Get elected, and take over the world from there, Brain. I hear the flights are really cheap now.

You having an idea, is a first. And way to contribute to the conversation. I suppose you were trying to make a point but it's hard to tell. You are like a rabid, spit frothing, hoof walking plangent jackass and your communication skills are equally charming.

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4/8/2020  11:14 PM
jrodmc wrote:https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Revolution+1+beatles&qpvt=Revolution+1+beatles&FORM=VDRE

meloshouldgo wrote: I am saying organize civil disobedience efforts outside of the political system and continue doing that till it becomes a movement. Yes it will take popular or charismatic people to lead that but there are plenty of those. There is no "in the meantime" any more - from a global warming aspect we are already past the point of no return. Need disruptive action now. This is why we need more and more people to help create awareness and you need a symbolic rallying point like Greta Thunberg. March on DC in large numbers. The Me Too movement did it. Demonstrate outside congress. Clog up wall street - spam their phone systems, hijack their network connectivity, boycott large banks in masses, bring the fight to the system. Basically wake the **** up and demand change at all levels right now. And disrupt BAU in any way possible. All of these can be started by a relatively small group of people. And no it doesn't guarantee a favorable outcome but we literally have nothing to lose.

LMAO While the angry little corporate financial executive (who apparently hated this US capitalist ****hole enough to immigrate and work here) types on his Apple and sips his cappuccino. And has Bobo adjust the AC, since the temperature's a bit balmy outside now. Sheer genius. Guess you missed the whole ****ing in the tarps while watching porn on Iphones Occupy Wall Street anarchist bull****, huh? Or did you just notice they accomplished little by trying to piss in the dog bowl?

Hey Mr. I Can Run The World Properly, did you notice the stupid idiots standing in the rain and snow in Wisconsin in your fair and balanced NY Times link above, casting their useless ****ing primary votes? Bet you just sniffed and spit up at the pic of the ignorant ******* old lady standing there, using a walker.
You would have a hell of a lot more credibility, if you actually served this country in some capacity before running your bunched panties up the flagpole to destroy everything. I didn't get to live in a communistj-run state. I've just got family that served and fought and died for your ability to cast your "useless vote".


I have a better idea for you. Move to Iceland. Get elected, and take over the world from there, Brain. I hear the flights are really cheap now.

Don't worry people like meloshouldgo are only good talking sht. Otherwise they are useless.
When their uneventful pathetic life is over there is nothing left. No wealth, no ideas, no inventions, and no trace.
But they do shake the world in their little bulb like head and lead the crowds to the promised lands.
Little reality show for yourself...

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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4/9/2020  3:22 AM
i knew this thread would keep adding value
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4/9/2020  8:32 AM
Marv wrote:i knew this thread would keep adding value

I've got to admit, reading his pathetic anarchistic rants everyday almost makes social distancing seem worthwhile. What fun. Iceland... we ruined Iceland. LOL

And when this thread gets boring or overly tedious, there's always the "All Hail Number 34" thread to re-visit. LMAO

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4/9/2020  9:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/9/2020  9:31 AM
Marv wrote:i knew this thread would keep adding value

this is the sad state of political discourse in our country. People like spit-frothing jrod and cognitive dissonance arkrud will hijack any conversation, drag it down to their own special level of stupid and try to beat you with sheer experience.

Anyway it was fun while it lasted, before it got trolled by the trump-humping dimwits in their MAGA hats.

rest in peace, dear thread.

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4/9/2020  9:34 AM
Fellas i'm sure the goal for everyone here is for all to have a happy healthy loving life. Disagreement on the ideals needed to achieve that shouldn't create resentment, given the intentions.
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4/9/2020  9:53 AM
Think about it - I clearly proposed a system governance based on Keynsian capitalism that has already worked before in America. One of the two geniuses decided I am an "anarchist" the other accused me of channeling my inner Stalin.

Don't get me wrong I don't resent them or anyone else here - but I may not be able to resist the urge to have fun at their expense.

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4/9/2020  10:26 AM
Yes, think about it. The Brain speaks out of both the piehole in his face about Keynsian capitalism (the same guy who made his money ****ing with international currency) while farting out "Basically wake the **** up" socialist ideals while trying to sound like an internet tough guy with neo-Occupy Wall Street "civil disobedience".

And when he gets called on his end-game plan, he ****s himself.

Fun stuff.

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4/11/2020  12:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/11/2020  12:51 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:Think about it - I clearly proposed a system governance based on Keynsian capitalism that has already worked before in America. One of the two geniuses decided I am an "anarchist" the other accused me of channeling my inner Stalin.

Don't get me wrong I don't resent them or anyone else here - but I may not be able to resist the urge to have fun at their expense.

I think we all have fun with this conversation.
Society is a complicated system and to propose change in one aspect of it without looking at consequences for all other is stupid at minimum.
Human civilization economy evolving as result of objective laws of its functioning which are independent from our choosing, same as laws on nature.
Every time some empowered group of people is trying to bend this laws it naturally ends up in disaster.
All we have is an illusion of control similar to swimmer swimming in opposite direction to river current.
When his powers are exhausted he will be washed back from were he started or will end up at the bottom dead.
Same happened with societies which try to bend the laws of market economy.
Knowing this laws, respecting them, and using them to societal advantage is a key to prosperity.
Same applies to the state building. Republic was defined more that 2 thousand years back and work better that any other type of governance since but still nations are failing back into totalitarianism over and over again.
Still more and more countries of the world are taking the better proven path and stay the course.
So there is hope...

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4/11/2020  2:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/11/2020  2:34 PM
Here you go Martin, newyorknewyork - the power of voting has been permanently castrated. Now what?

Example 1: Even when your party gets 53% of the popular vote they get 36% of the seats in Wisconsin due to gerrymandering and vote suppression and the Governor is neutered before he even takes his oath

Back in 2018, Wisconsin’s electorate voted strongly for Democratic control. Voters chose a Democratic governor, and gave 53 percent of their support to Democratic candidates for the State Assembly. But the state is so heavily gerrymandered that despite this popular-vote majority, Democrats got only 36 percent of the Assembly’s seats.

And far from trying to reach some accommodation with the governor-elect, Republicans moved to effectively emasculate him, drastically reducing the powers of his office.

Example 2: Now they are holding elections when urban areas are in full lock down and rural areas are not. This was backed by the SC, who have elected to work from home by the way.

Yet Wisconsin, like most of the country, is under a stay-at-home order. So why did Republican legislators, eventually backed by the Republican appointees to the U.S. Supreme Court, insist on holding an election as if the situation were normal?

The answer is that the state shutdown had a much more severe impact on voting in Democratic-leaning urban areas, where a great majority of polling places were closed, than in rural or suburban areas. So the state G.O.P. was nakedly exploiting a pandemic to disenfranchise those likely to vote against it.


So tell me what did the voters who came out in large numbers during the last election cycle in Wisconsin get from it? And why would they want to do it again?
And according the Russian troll, this is the greatest civilization on earth with a system of checks and balances and protection of human rights. Can't make this sh!t up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/opinion/wisconsin-primary-democracy.html?searchResultPosition=1&fbclid=IwAR31_osf1rl0K2MemuR-JW5a2PHUgxY98kuHxjd3bWji-WewWfKZItWzFws

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there r a lot of good reasons to vote. 1 is so u don’t have an assclown conman telling the country “ayy i gotcha metrics right heah . . . “

Trump asked what metrics he's using for re-opening US. See his response
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/04/10/trump-biggest-decision-coronavirus-tapper-vpx.cnn

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meloshouldgo wrote:Here you go Martin, newyorknewyork - the power of voting has been permanently castrated. Now what?

Example 1: Even when your party gets 53% of the popular vote they get 36% of the seats in Wisconsin due to gerrymandering and vote suppression and the Governor is neutered before he even takes his oath

Back in 2018, Wisconsin’s electorate voted strongly for Democratic control. Voters chose a Democratic governor, and gave 53 percent of their support to Democratic candidates for the State Assembly. But the state is so heavily gerrymandered that despite this popular-vote majority, Democrats got only 36 percent of the Assembly’s seats.

And far from trying to reach some accommodation with the governor-elect, Republicans moved to effectively emasculate him, drastically reducing the powers of his office.

Example 2: Now they are holding elections when urban areas are in full lock down and rural areas are not. This was backed by the SC, who have elected to work from home by the way.

Yet Wisconsin, like most of the country, is under a stay-at-home order. So why did Republican legislators, eventually backed by the Republican appointees to the U.S. Supreme Court, insist on holding an election as if the situation were normal?

The answer is that the state shutdown had a much more severe impact on voting in Democratic-leaning urban areas, where a great majority of polling places were closed, than in rural or suburban areas. So the state G.O.P. was nakedly exploiting a pandemic to disenfranchise those likely to vote against it.


So tell me what did the voters who came out in large numbers during the last election cycle in Wisconsin get from it? And why would they want to do it again?
And according the Russian troll, this is the greatest civilization on earth with a system of checks and balances and protection of human rights. Can't make this sh!t up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/opinion/wisconsin-primary-democracy.html?searchResultPosition=1&fbclid=IwAR31_osf1rl0K2MemuR-JW5a2PHUgxY98kuHxjd3bWji-WewWfKZItWzFws

They look to supress votes election after election for a reason. So voting doesn't matter, but they also look for any possible angle to supress votes as if it mattered?


https://www.salon.com/2018/12/03/protests-erupt-as-wisconsin-gop-attempt-to-disempower-democrats-following-scott-walkers-loss/

Wisconsin state lawmakers were met with an emergency protest at the state capitol on Monday ahead of a vote to wrestle power away from Democrat Tony Evers, who defeated GOP Governor Scott Walker in last month's midterm election. Republicans have also targeted the state's incoming Democratic attorney general — who campaigned on removing Wisconsin from a lawsuit filed by red states against the Affordable Care Act — and voters in the state, with proposals to drastically cut down on early voting, as The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports:

https://www.wpr.org/groups-file-suit-overturn-lame-duck-session-laws

A group of plaintiffs filed a lawsuit in Dane County Circuit Court Thursday that aims to overturn all of the measures Wisconsin Republicans passed in a lame-duck session last month, arguing the entire session was unconstitutional.

The plaintiffs, who include The League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, Disability Rights Wisconsin, Inc., and Black Leaders Organizing For Communities, also contend Republicans acted unlawfully when they voted to approve 82 last-minute appointments by former Republican Gov. Scott Walker.

At the crux of their argument is the procedural step GOP leaders used to call the Legislature into session at a time when lawmakers would have otherwise been adjourned for the rest of the year.

Republicans passed the laws and appointments in the early morning of Dec. 5, 2018 during an "extraordinary" session, which is a session called for by legislative leaders. The parameters for extraordinary sessions are laid out in the Legislature's rules.

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18277195/wisconsin-republican-lame-duck-power-grab-court-evers

Evers and Attorney General Josh Kaul were handed a huge, albeit temporary, win in the court this week, when a judge blocked Republicans’ lame-duck power grab aimed at limiting Democrats’ newfound power in the state.

State Republicans passed a slate of bills in December curbing Evers’s ability to change policies around welfare, health care, and economic development, as well as limiting the attorney general’s powers, while former Republican Gov. Scott Walker was still in office. Among other provisions, the laws blocked Evers’s power to expand Medicaid coverage, stopped Kaul from withdrawing the state from a lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act, and stripped Evers’s authority over key executive branch appointments.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686327659/federal-judge-strikes-down-lame-duck-changes-to-wisconsin-voting-laws

Liberal advocacy group One Wisconsin Now joined with the National Redistricting Foundation, an arm of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee headed by former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, to argue that the new restrictions violated a 2016 federal ruling on election laws in Wisconsin. The groups appealed to the judge in that case, Judge James Peterson of the Western District of Wisconsin, to block the new law.

Peterson issued a favorable ruling for the groups on Thursday afternoon.

"This is not a close question," Peterson wrote in his decision.

The judge also struck down a law passed during the lame duck session that requires a 2-year expiration date on student IDs used for identification at the polls, as well as a law that limits the use of receipts as valid voter identification for individuals who are involved in a sometimes lengthy process of getting a valid ID without a birth certificate.

Analiese Eicher, program director at One Wisconsin Now, lauded Peterson's decision as a victory for Wisconsin voters.

"We saw voters respond incredibly when voting was expanded in Wisconsin - voters stepped up, they saw the ability to vote and they voted," she said.

Eicher said the ruling will allow communities to continue to provide "the kinds of voting experiences that they need."

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meloshouldgo wrote:Here you go Martin, newyorknewyork - the power of voting has been permanently castrated. Now what?

Example 1: Even when your party gets 53% of the popular vote they get 36% of the seats in Wisconsin due to gerrymandering and vote suppression and the Governor is neutered before he even takes his oath

Back in 2018, Wisconsin’s electorate voted strongly for Democratic control. Voters chose a Democratic governor, and gave 53 percent of their support to Democratic candidates for the State Assembly. But the state is so heavily gerrymandered that despite this popular-vote majority, Democrats got only 36 percent of the Assembly’s seats.

And far from trying to reach some accommodation with the governor-elect, Republicans moved to effectively emasculate him, drastically reducing the powers of his office.

Example 2: Now they are holding elections when urban areas are in full lock down and rural areas are not. This was backed by the SC, who have elected to work from home by the way.

Yet Wisconsin, like most of the country, is under a stay-at-home order. So why did Republican legislators, eventually backed by the Republican appointees to the U.S. Supreme Court, insist on holding an election as if the situation were normal?

The answer is that the state shutdown had a much more severe impact on voting in Democratic-leaning urban areas, where a great majority of polling places were closed, than in rural or suburban areas. So the state G.O.P. was nakedly exploiting a pandemic to disenfranchise those likely to vote against it.


So tell me what did the voters who came out in large numbers during the last election cycle in Wisconsin get from it? And why would they want to do it again?
And according the Russian troll, this is the greatest civilization on earth with a system of checks and balances and protection of human rights. Can't make this sh!t up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/opinion/wisconsin-primary-democracy.html?searchResultPosition=1&fbclid=IwAR31_osf1rl0K2MemuR-JW5a2PHUgxY98kuHxjd3bWji-WewWfKZItWzFws

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