Uptown wrote:Good trade for the most part...when we first signed Morris, the idea of getting a 1st reound pick for a 1 yr rental would have been a great get. We cant let rumored deals on twitter sawy us....we got assets and we are still on track for a rebuild.

Agree, good haul. Perry has shown that he is an able negotiator. Would have been a better idea to promote Perry, and let Rose be GM. Perry has earned the right to stay on. Will be PO'd if an exec with ZERO experience, fires an experienced exec who has been doing a good job in NY.

GustavBahler wrote:

Uptown wrote:Good trade for the most part...when we first signed Morris, the idea of getting a 1st reound pick for a 1 yr rental would have been a great get. We cant let rumored deals on twitter sawy us....we got assets and we are still on track for a rebuild.

Agree, good haul. Perry has shown that he is an able negotiator. Would have been a better idea to promote Perry, and let Rose be GM. Perry has earned the right to stay on. Will be PO'd if an exec with ZERO experience, fires an experienced exec who has been doing a good job in NY.

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Uptown wrote:Good trade for the most part...when we first signed Morris, the idea of getting a 1st reound pick for a 1 yr rental would have been a great get. We cant let rumored deals on twitter sawy us....we got assets and we are still on track for a rebuild.

Agree, good haul. Perry has shown that he is an able negotiator. Would have been a better idea to promote Perry, and let Rose be GM. Perry has earned the right to stay on. Will be PO'd if an exec with ZERO experience, fires an experienced exec who has been doing a good job in NY.

I agree on the trade. I didn’t think initially that the Knicks got a second round pick. Detroit isn’t very good so that should be a high second.
In regards to Rose, I wish Perry was given the rest of the season even as interim. Not sure why there was a rush. Also, the Knicks keep hiring Presidents that aren’t front office guys. Rose maybe fine but on the surface this appears to be more of the same.
The Knicks do have 6 first round picks over the next three years and they will have cap space again. The franchise is in a good place for a competent exec to take over. I hope Rose proves to be that.

exactly. Great post. This is the upside. The downside is losing KP was a clear setback and impact talent like that is the hardest to get. I really hope this guy looks to build first and then spend but we will see.

I have hopes for RJ. He looks good. I have hope Frank at least becomes a Marcus Smart type roll player for us. I have hopes Mitch can be a Capella type player. I would like to see more from Knox, Iggy, Trier, Smith Jr and even Wooten. Not seeing those guys would be an indication we have no clue. If the post AS team is a heavy dose of Taj/Randle/Bullock/Elf/Ellington over the guys I mentioned it will be a rough start

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CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Uptown wrote:Good trade for the most part...when we first signed Morris, the idea of getting a 1st reound pick for a 1 yr rental would have been a great get. We cant let rumored deals on twitter sawy us....we got assets and we are still on track for a rebuild.

Agree, good haul. Perry has shown that he is an able negotiator. Would have been a better idea to promote Perry, and let Rose be GM. Perry has earned the right to stay on. Will be PO'd if an exec with ZERO experience, fires an experienced exec who has been doing a good job in NY.

I agree on the trade. I didn’t think initially that the Knicks got a second round pick. Detroit isn’t very good so that should be a high second.
In regards to Rose, I wish Perry was given the rest of the season even as interim. Not sure why there was a rush. Also, the Knicks keep hiring Presidents that aren’t front office guys. Rose maybe fine but on the surface this appears to be more of the same.
The Knicks do have 6 first round picks over the next three years and they will have cap space again. The franchise is in a good place for a competent exec to take over. I hope Rose proves to be that.

JesseDark wrote:What I don't understand about the trade is if it's the right to swap 1st round draft picks in 2021 why would do that when our pick is going to be better? Does that me we don;t get any other compensaation than the players?

My bad. Real GM says Clips still own it. Moot point anyway. It's not like David Robinson is walking through that door next season.

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Uptown wrote:Good trade for the most part...when we first signed Morris, the idea of getting a 1st reound pick for a 1 yr rental would have been a great get. We cant let rumored deals on twitter sawy us....we got assets and we are still on track for a rebuild.

Agree, good haul. Perry has shown that he is an able negotiator. Would have been a better idea to promote Perry, and let Rose be GM. Perry has earned the right to stay on. Will be PO'd if an exec with ZERO experience, fires an experienced exec who has been doing a good job in NY.

I agree on the trade. I didn’t think initially that the Knicks got a second round pick. Detroit isn’t very good so that should be a high second.
In regards to Rose, I wish Perry was given the rest of the season even as interim. Not sure why there was a rush. Also, the Knicks keep hiring Presidents that aren’t front office guys. Rose maybe fine but on the surface this appears to be more of the same.
The Knicks do have 6 first round picks over the next three years and they will have cap space again. The franchise is in a good place for a competent exec to take over. I hope Rose proves to be that.

exactly. Great post. This is the upside. The downside is losing KP was a clear setback and impact talent like that is the hardest to get. I really hope this guy looks to build first and then spend but we will see.

I have hopes for RJ. He looks good. I have hope Frank at least becomes a Marcus Smart type roll player for us. I have hopes Mitch can be a Capella type player. I would like to see more from Knox, Iggy, Trier, Smith Jr and even Wooten. Not seeing those guys would be an indication we have no clue. If the post AS team is a heavy dose of Taj/Randle/Bullock/Elf/Ellington over the guys I mentioned it will be a rough start

Which is why I was hoping Perry found a taker for Payton to open up more mins for DSJ and Frank. Hopefully, RJ will get some mins @ the 3 so Zo can get some time at the 2 but I doubt it.

knicks1248 wrote:The only way this trade is good is if the knicks flip those picks on draft night and get morris back in FA.

I just can't believe we have done the exact same thing 5 season in a row and the results have been the exact same..HORRIBLE and you do it again a 6th time.

Putting your young guys through another 60 loss season, if frank is here next season, he will be on his 4th coach in 4 seasons, knox is 3rd in 3 seasons

Welpee wrote:

JesseDark wrote:What I don't understand about the trade is if it's the right to swap 1st round draft picks in 2021 why would do that when our pick is going to be better? Does that me we don;t get any other compensaation than the players?

Couple injuries and you never know. Nobody expected the Spurs to drop from 59 to 20 wins before they drafted Duncan.

KnickDanger wrote:Crybabies gonna cry. I'm not in denial but I see first round picks, a few young assets, and cap flexibility going forward. Anyone who has followed this team for the past 20 years should understand this is different.

Yup. We're doing our own version of the "Process" where you need lots of picks in a 5-6 year span and hope one or two stick. Of our last three drafts it looks like we have at least one keeper in RJ. Need to find one or two more blue-chippers.

Sambakick wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Crybabies gonna cry. I'm not in denial but I see first round picks, a few young assets, and cap flexibility going forward. Anyone who has followed this team for the past 20 years should understand this is different.

Yup. We're doing our own version of the "Process" where you need lots of picks in a 5-6 year span and hope one or two stick. Of our last three drafts it looks like we have at least one keeper in RJ. Need to find one or two more blue-chippers.

This trade deadline went pretty much as expected. The one player on an expiring contract developed a value for a contender and resulted in the Knicks obtaining another first and a couple other assets (overseas stash, draft swap). Other guys are developing but have team options for next year (Elf, Bullock). I wonder if Robinson moves back to the SL with Barret returning and trade showcase season over.