Knickfury11 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Devin Vassell is a late lotto pick that I really like...He would be our starting SF right now! I saw this kid play live, 2 years ago when he played for Peachtree ridge HS. Devin has improved his shot and handle since I saw him which shows that he is working on his game and is willing to put in the work. He reminds me a bit of Trevor Ariza. An athletic 3 & D wing. Leonard Hamilton @ Florida State is a tremendous defensive coach so you know Vassell was schooled very well on that side of the ball. If we land outside of the top 3, we should strongly consider drafting him if available.

Yeah I agree the more I see of Vassell the more I like. Also very high on Aaron Nesmith @ Vanderbilt.
In fact I draft both Vassell and Nesmith before Deni. I seen a lot of Deni’s games I just don’t see it transferring to the NBA?

I've been pouring over Deni vids the last 2 days and the more I watch the more doubts I have. I like Deni's skill set but he is an inconsistent shooter and may be a liability on the defensive end.

We need players that can impact the game on both sides of the ball. As of right now, if we land outside of the top 5 my top 2 choices would be Vassell and Haliburton.

Uptown wrote:If we don't draft a pg with our lotto pick and take a wing or a big; if Tyrell Terry is available with our 2nd pick in the 1st rd, I would strongly consider taking him. Has a little Trae Young in his game. Not as good as Young of course, but he's a lights out shooter with play-making potential...

Yeah definitely worth a peep if fate plays out that way. My concerns with Terry being, small stature ( ala trae young ) defensively meh, ball handling & playmaking not elite. But that jumper looks wet.

Uptown wrote:

Knickfury11 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If we don't draft a pg with our lotto pick and take a wing or a big; if Tyrell Terry is available with our 2nd pick in the 1st rd, I would strongly consider taking him. Has a little Trae Young in his game. Not as good as Young of course, but he's a lights out shooter with play-making potential...

Yeah definitely worth a peep if fate plays out that way. My concerns with Terry being, small stature ( ala trae young ) defensively meh, ball handling & playmaking not elite. But that jumper looks wet.

Keep in mind, most of these kids are 18 and 19 yrs old so there is room for improvement. Ultimately, when you are drafting these young players, you have to look at their potential and what they can turn into as opposed to where they are right now. He's a lights out shooter which is at a premium in todays league so he already has a leg up. Theres plenty of room to improve his handle. And film work can improve his ability to make reads which isn't bad as is.

With the right coaching staff and environment, he can be developed into a pretty good player. With the said, his size is a concern which is why a great shooter like him may be available late in the 1st or in the 2nd round. I see a Seth Curry like player with a better handle and playmaking ability

https://heatcheckcbb.com/2020/06/16/nba-draft-rumors-vassell-may-land-in-top-5-terrys-broken-record-and-more/

Tyrell Terry’s broken record
Stanford point guard Tyrell Terry is a borderline first-round draft pick and hasn’t yet made an official decision as to whether he will remain in the draft or return to school.

He is really helping himself through the pre-draft process by displaying his smarts (typical for a Stanford kid, right?). According to USA Today’s Bryan Kalbrosky, Terry “‘broke a record‘ for a basketball IQ test administered by several NBA front offices.”

Despite a lack of ideal size (6-1, 160 lbs.) some scouts are high on Terry because of his shooting (40.8 percent from three) along with that high basketball IQ. Kalbrosky has him going No. 16 overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Uptown wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Knickfury11 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If we don't draft a pg with our lotto pick and take a wing or a big; if Tyrell Terry is available with our 2nd pick in the 1st rd, I would strongly consider taking him. Has a little Trae Young in his game. Not as good as Young of course, but he's a lights out shooter with play-making potential...

Yeah definitely worth a peep if fate plays out that way. My concerns with Terry being, small stature ( ala trae young ) defensively meh, ball handling & playmaking not elite. But that jumper looks wet.

Keep in mind, most of these kids are 18 and 19 yrs old so there is room for improvement. Ultimately, when you are drafting these young players, you have to look at their potential and what they can turn into as opposed to where they are right now. He's a lights out shooter which is at a premium in todays league so he already has a leg up. Theres plenty of room to improve his handle. And film work can improve his ability to make reads which isn't bad as is.

With the right coaching staff and environment, he can be developed into a pretty good player. With the said, his size is a concern which is why a great shooter like him may be available late in the 1st or in the 2nd round. I see a Seth Curry like player with a better handle and playmaking ability

https://heatcheckcbb.com/2020/06/16/nba-draft-rumors-vassell-may-land-in-top-5-terrys-broken-record-and-more/

Tyrell Terry’s broken record
Stanford point guard Tyrell Terry is a borderline first-round draft pick and hasn’t yet made an official decision as to whether he will remain in the draft or return to school.

He is really helping himself through the pre-draft process by displaying his smarts (typical for a Stanford kid, right?). According to USA Today’s Bryan Kalbrosky, Terry “‘broke a record‘ for a basketball IQ test administered by several NBA front offices.”

Despite a lack of ideal size (6-1, 160 lbs.) some scouts are high on Terry because of his shooting (40.8 percent from three) along with that high basketball IQ. Kalbrosky has him going No. 16 overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Wow @ the IQ test! Even more reason to consider him...you can never have enough high IQ guys who really have a deep understanding of ow to play the game.

With that said, this new revelation may have him climbing draft boards. It's a good chance he may mo longer be available with our 2nd pick...

https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=espnmag/bargnani

For years, NBA teams have used the Caliper Profile to evaluate potential draft picks. The Caliper is a personality profile used by numerous corporations and organizations to measure one's capacity to excel in specific situations. Over the past 24 years, Caliper has assessed more than 20,000 athletes, including NBA players from Detroit, San Antonio, Denver and Phoenix. Colangelo has long been sold on the system. When he heard how Bargnani measured up, he nearly dropped the phone.

"They said his upside and potential were off the charts," Colangelo says from the tunnel of the Air Canada Centre as Bargnani drains a three against the Cavaliers. "They said, 'Out of all the athletes we've profiled, we've never seen anything like this.' "

The test showed that Bargnani is virtually oblivious to what others think of him. And his tremendous ability to block out such potentially negative pressures enables him to focus completely on the task at hand. So the expectations and anxieties that come with being the No.1 pick, or the only Italian-born player in the league, or even taking a game-winning shot, don't even register with him.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Knickfury11 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If we don't draft a pg with our lotto pick and take a wing or a big; if Tyrell Terry is available with our 2nd pick in the 1st rd, I would strongly consider taking him. Has a little Trae Young in his game. Not as good as Young of course, but he's a lights out shooter with play-making potential...

Yeah definitely worth a peep if fate plays out that way. My concerns with Terry being, small stature ( ala trae young ) defensively meh, ball handling & playmaking not elite. But that jumper looks wet.

Keep in mind, most of these kids are 18 and 19 yrs old so there is room for improvement. Ultimately, when you are drafting these young players, you have to look at their potential and what they can turn into as opposed to where they are right now. He's a lights out shooter which is at a premium in todays league so he already has a leg up. Theres plenty of room to improve his handle. And film work can improve his ability to make reads which isn't bad as is.

With the right coaching staff and environment, he can be developed into a pretty good player. With the said, his size is a concern which is why a great shooter like him may be available late in the 1st or in the 2nd round. I see a Seth Curry like player with a better handle and playmaking ability

https://heatcheckcbb.com/2020/06/16/nba-draft-rumors-vassell-may-land-in-top-5-terrys-broken-record-and-more/

Tyrell Terry’s broken record
Stanford point guard Tyrell Terry is a borderline first-round draft pick and hasn’t yet made an official decision as to whether he will remain in the draft or return to school.

He is really helping himself through the pre-draft process by displaying his smarts (typical for a Stanford kid, right?). According to USA Today’s Bryan Kalbrosky, Terry “‘broke a record‘ for a basketball IQ test administered by several NBA front offices.”

Despite a lack of ideal size (6-1, 160 lbs.) some scouts are high on Terry because of his shooting (40.8 percent from three) along with that high basketball IQ. Kalbrosky has him going No. 16 overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Wow @ the IQ test! Even more reason to consider him...you can never have enough high IQ guys who really have a deep understanding of ow to play the game.

With that said, this new revelation may have him climbing draft boards. It's a good chance he may mo longer be available with our 2nd pick...

I like Terry too, but I always take these pre-draft tests with a grain of salt.

https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?page=espnmag/bargnani

For years, NBA teams have used the Caliper Profile to evaluate potential draft picks. The Caliper is a personality profile used by numerous corporations and organizations to measure one's capacity to excel in specific situations. Over the past 24 years, Caliper has assessed more than 20,000 athletes, including NBA players from Detroit, San Antonio, Denver and Phoenix. Colangelo has long been sold on the system. When he heard how Bargnani measured up, he nearly dropped the phone.

"They said his upside and potential were off the charts," Colangelo says from the tunnel of the Air Canada Centre as Bargnani drains a three against the Cavaliers. "They said, 'Out of all the athletes we've profiled, we've never seen anything like this.' "

The test showed that Bargnani is virtually oblivious to what others think of him. And his tremendous ability to block out such potentially negative pressures enables him to focus completely on the task at hand. So the expectations and anxieties that come with being the No.1 pick, or the only Italian-born player in the league, or even taking a game-winning shot, don't even register with him.

Good point...I would love to see the type of questions asked on this test. Is there any bias? Does background play a role in how questions are interpreted or misinterpreted?

With that said, some GMs may emphasize these scores more than others...

Knickfury11 wrote:

Like the look of Mason Jones as a second round pick obviously depending on how things on top shape up. Looks to have nba range jumper and averaged 9.1 free throws per game. Guys that get to the line like that deserve a peak. Average defender. Thoughts?

I was actually going to post a vid about him today LOL. I only saw him once this year, against Kentucky, and I was impressed by his poise and ability to get a good look from anywhere on the court. Dude is a walking bucket. I searched different mock drafts and was shocked to see that some predict that he wont even get drafted which is insane!

He's 6'5 which is great size for a lead guard. He can shoot it from 3, can run the pick n roll and can get a bucket in iso when the shot clock is running down. He's not super quick or athletic, but he is very crafty and shifty and always manages to got off a good look.

My two main concerns about him is his court vision and ability to make his teammates better as a facilitator. Also, I've heard he is not a very motivated defensive player. With that said, depending on what we do with our 1st round picks, if he's there with our 2nd round pick, he along with a few others I like should be under consideration!