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A PG that can shoot will change everything
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Knixkik
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1/12/2020  6:28 PM
The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.
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1/12/2020  8:04 PM
Knixkik wrote:The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.

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1/12/2020  10:32 PM
martin wrote:
Knixkik wrote:The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.

Loving Haliburton for the Knicks

I'm thinking this is the year to trade down. I do see some Brogdan in Haliburton's game tho, but Anthony Edwards is the only guy I'd feel safe picking. Nico, Anthony, Haliburton, Mannion, Ball all have considerable question marks and Wiseman doesn't seem special enough to draft with Mitch on board. To be fair, we haven't really seen Cole or Wiseman play this season.

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1/12/2020  11:16 PM
Will have to check out some of the prospects you guys listed. Agree that a scoring PG makes things easier on their teammates. Have to be able to count on your PG to get buckets, when the defense is stout.
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1/12/2020  11:27 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Knixkik wrote:The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.

Loving Haliburton for the Knicks

I'm thinking this is the year to trade down. I do see some Brogdan in Haliburton's game tho, but Anthony Edwards is the only guy I'd feel safe picking. Nico, Anthony, Haliburton, Mannion, Ball all have considerable question marks and Wiseman doesn't seem special enough to draft with Mitch on board. To be fair, we haven't really seen Cole or Wiseman play this season.

Ugh though right?

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1/12/2020  11:28 PM
i wonder what our record would have been had the fo retained Mudiay. Of course, people would have complained that we'd be stunting DSjr & Frank's growth.
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1/12/2020  11:45 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Knixkik wrote:The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.

Loving Haliburton for the Knicks

I'm thinking this is the year to trade down. I do see some Brogdan in Haliburton's game tho, but Anthony Edwards is the only guy I'd feel safe picking. Nico, Anthony, Haliburton, Mannion, Ball all have considerable question marks and Wiseman doesn't seem special enough to draft with Mitch on board. To be fair, we haven't really seen Cole or Wiseman play this season.

Ugh though right?

Yup. His is very bad. He has potential in the Knox sense but poor effort is always a red flag for me. Still can’t discount the fact that he is offensively very very talented.

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1/13/2020  7:27 AM
franco12 wrote:i wonder what our record would have been had the fo retained Mudiay. Of course, people would have complained that we'd be stunting DSjr & Frank's growth.

Mudiay has always been a pretty low impact player. Payton is much better, and neither of them can shoot. Maybe he would have made a difference when Payton was injured though.

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1/13/2020  7:28 AM
martin wrote:
Knixkik wrote:The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.

Loving Haliburton for the Knicks

Haliburton is my favorite too. Reminds me a bit of SGA from okc, except more of a pure PG. He would be a great fit with Barrett and Mitch.

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1/13/2020  9:30 AM
A PG that can shoot will change everything

I think we need better perimeter scoring from every position

ES
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1/13/2020  10:04 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
A PG that can shoot will change everything

I think we need better perimeter scoring from every position

and defense and shooting and good passing too! You could be a scout
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1/13/2020  11:05 AM
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
A PG that can shoot will change everything

I think we need better perimeter scoring from every position

and defense and shooting and good passing too! You could be a scout

Boy-scout...

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1/13/2020  1:25 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
A PG that can shoot will change everything

I think we need better perimeter scoring from every position

The knicks needs to load the bench with shooters. I assume Knox and Frank will be coming off the bench next season but be part of the rotation. So we need to add 2 shooters to the bench rotation. The starting lineup is fine as long as the wing opposite to RJ is a high volume 3pt shooter as well as the starting PG. Whether it's Morris or Bullock starting at the SF. Or you can easily move Barrett to the SF and sign either Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, or Bogdan Bogdanovic at SG and bring Bullock off the bench.

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1/13/2020  2:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2020  2:51 PM
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
A PG that can shoot will change everything

I think we need better perimeter scoring from every position

The knicks needs to load the bench with shooters. I assume Knox and Frank will be coming off the bench next season but be part of the rotation. So we need to add 2 shooters to the bench rotation. The starting lineup is fine as long as the wing opposite to RJ is a high volume 3pt shooter as well as the starting PG. Whether it's Morris or Bullock starting at the SF. Or you can easily move Barrett to the SF and sign either Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, or Bogdan Bogdanovic at SG and bring Bullock off the bench.

Base on History, I'm not going to assume who will even be on the roster next season, let alone the rotation.

We maybe looking at an entire new FO/COACH, and tons of trade opportunities, and RJ is the only untouchable.

When your losing, nothing stays the same..

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1/13/2020  3:06 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
A PG that can shoot will change everything

I think we need better perimeter scoring from every position

The knicks needs to load the bench with shooters. I assume Knox and Frank will be coming off the bench next season but be part of the rotation. So we need to add 2 shooters to the bench rotation. The starting lineup is fine as long as the wing opposite to RJ is a high volume 3pt shooter as well as the starting PG. Whether it's Morris or Bullock starting at the SF. Or you can easily move Barrett to the SF and sign either Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, or Bogdan Bogdanovic at SG and bring Bullock off the bench.

Base on History, I'm not going to assume who will even be on the roster next season, let alone the rotation.

We maybe looking at an entire new FO/COACH, and tons of trade opportunities, and RJ is the only untouchable.

When your losing, nothing stays the same..

Of course things can always change, it's just a guess. RJ, Mitch, and Randle are likely here to stay. Everything else is a complete unknown.

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1/13/2020  6:06 PM
TPercy wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Knixkik wrote:The lane will be open for Randle and Barrett. Kadeem Allen belongs on this roster and is a nice 3rd string PG. Ntilikina is establishing himself as a good backup. Payton has been a difference maker but the lack of outside shooting hurts badly. Barrett, Randle and Robinson are 3 starters who are likely here long term. The jury is still out on Morris but if we don’t keep him then at least we know Bullock can fill that floor spacing role on the wing. We just need another floor spacer at the PG position. Top candidates are VanVleet as a free agent or Haliburton, cole Anthony or Mannion in the draft. Haliburton has a funky shot but it goes in and his defense and passing makes for a great fit.

Loving Haliburton for the Knicks

I'm thinking this is the year to trade down. I do see some Brogdan in Haliburton's game tho, but Anthony Edwards is the only guy I'd feel safe picking. Nico, Anthony, Haliburton, Mannion, Ball all have considerable question marks and Wiseman doesn't seem special enough to draft with Mitch on board. To be fair, we haven't really seen Cole or Wiseman play this season.

Ugh though right?

Yup. His is very bad. He has potential in the Knox sense but poor effort is always a red flag for me. Still can’t discount the fact that he is offensively very very talented.


Can't cherry pick one game, but the shot selection has been an issue in every game I've watched.
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A PG that can shoot will change everything

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