HofstraBBall wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:So far so good but let's keep our shirts on.

Like some of the things he is preaching. Can't forget that Payton back in the line up has been huge. Randle has had much better games of late, Mitch is staying out of foul trouble and Morris has been real steady. Players also had that players only meeting which seemed to have shifted the effort level and communication. Still, if the coach gets the blame for when a team is playing badly, so should he get the praise when its playing well.

The other is the forwards initiate the offense less. Its back to the guards. That has resulted in better play also, and is a big part of Randle's reassurance. Now Fizdale didnt really have Elf and he's really helped. Also the best guard play was a good stretch from Frank early on when he was starting and that was under Fizdale.

That being said Miller's offense simply passes the eye test. There is much more motion and guards moving and much less forwards holding the ball.

Hard to deny team looks much better on both ends of the floor with Mike.

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:So far so good but let's keep our shirts on.

Like some of the things he is preaching. Can't forget that Payton back in the line up has been huge. Randle has had much better games of late, Mitch is staying out of foul trouble and Morris has been real steady. Players also had that players only meeting which seemed to have shifted the effort level and communication. Still, if the coach gets the blame for when a team is playing badly, so should he get the praise when its playing well.

Miller has done a few things differently but there are two very clear differences in the teams Miller/Fizdale coached. One is one defense which is all on Fizdale. Miller's Knicks dont switch like Fizdale's. They fight over screens and look to push the driving big to help. That resulted in better defensive everything and shows in the stats.

The other is the forwards initiate the offense less. Its back to the guards. That has resulted in better play also, and is a big part of Randle's reassurance. Now Fizdale didnt really have Elf and he's really helped. Also the best guard play was a good stretch from Frank early on when he was starting and that was under Fizdale.

That being said Miller's offense simply passes the eye test. There is much more motion and guards moving and much less forwards holding the ball.

Hard to deny team looks much better on both ends of the floor with Mike.

2 things on offense that stand out is the spacing and utilization of the PNR. Miller has the team running some 4-out 1-in sets that has spaced the floor and allowed for guys to get into the paint. He also has the team setting more off the ball screens which has allowed for some back door and basket cuts.

Also, the PNR has opened Mitch's offensive game as well as allowing our pg's get two feet in the paint....

Definitely can't deny that Miller has made some positive adjustments....

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:So far so good but let's keep our shirts on.

Like some of the things he is preaching. Can't forget that Payton back in the line up has been huge. Randle has had much better games of late, Mitch is staying out of foul trouble and Morris has been real steady. Players also had that players only meeting which seemed to have shifted the effort level and communication. Still, if the coach gets the blame for when a team is playing badly, so should he get the praise when its playing well.

Miller has done a few things differently but there are two very clear differences in the teams Miller/Fizdale coached. One is one defense which is all on Fizdale. Miller's Knicks dont switch like Fizdale's. They fight over screens and look to push the driving big to help. That resulted in better defensive everything and shows in the stats.

The other is the forwards initiate the offense less. Its back to the guards. That has resulted in better play also, and is a big part of Randle's reassurance. Now Fizdale didnt really have Elf and he's really helped. Also the best guard play was a good stretch from Frank early on when he was starting and that was under Fizdale.

That being said Miller's offense simply passes the eye test. There is much more motion and guards moving and much less forwards holding the ball.

Hard to deny team looks much better on both ends of the floor with Mike.

2 things on offense that stand out is the spacing and utilization of the PNR. Miller has the team running some 4-out 1-in sets that has spaced the floor and allowed for guys to get into the paint. He also has the team setting more off the ball screens which has allowed for some back door and basket cuts.

Also, the PNR has opened Mitch's offensive game as well as allowing our pg's get two feet in the paint....

Definitely can't deny that Miller has made some positive adjustments....

mind boggling that Fiz didnt run a P&R staple, especially after "watching Frank in the Fiba."

Here's a nice catch I saw from reddit:
https://theathletic.com/1512674/2020/01/06/a-death-mobile-a-mountain-dew-habit-and-vhs-tapes-of-the-triangle-offense-how-mike-miller-went-from-a-little-known-coach-to-leading-the-knicks/?source=shared-article

Miller has the Buford endorsement. He may have some legit coaching chops. Fingers crossed he a part of something good here

Clippers game was crazy. Cool to see Morris have that kind of game but this is more of an "Linsanity" uptick and I'd rather we not install him as our alpha elite three for the future. Morris is a solid player, good role model, and all the goodness we could have hoped for a 29 year old journeyman player. SAS must be still livid after releasing Bertans to make room for Morris.

knicks1248 wrote:Has this team resorted back to fizdale play.

The effort is not the same prior to the road trip.

If mike miller fails, it makes Mills and perry look even worse. What can you say after 2 coaches fail to do anything with the roster they built

The last two games were terrible, but we are missing a bunch of our guys. Let's get healthy and see what's what.

knicks1248 wrote:Has this team resorted back to fizdale play.

The effort is not the same prior to the road trip.

If mike miller fails, it makes Mills and perry look even worse. What can you say after 2 coaches fail to do anything with the roster they built

Anything except winning games seems irrelevant to you.
It was clear before season started we will not win many. And we don't.
And it has nothing to do with Fiz, Miller, Mills, and Perry.
Put any other NBA coaches and execs in the same spat and it will be same amount of wins.
Borderline GL team cannot compete in NBA. Period.
Building from below the ground zero is not a joke.

knicks1248 wrote:

stanleybostitch wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Has this team resorted back to fizdale play.

The effort is not the same prior to the road trip.

If mike miller fails, it makes Mills and perry look even worse. What can you say after 2 coaches fail to do anything with the roster they built

The last two games were terrible, but we are missing a bunch of our guys. Let's get healthy and see what's what.

Just seems like the effort on D was non existing, like we were just hoping guys missed.

That's what happens when main guys are out and ****ty defenders need to start. That's obvious right?

Team defense is 5 cogs acting as 1. Add in the likes of Portis and things go to ****

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:So far so good but let's keep our shirts on.

Like some of the things he is preaching. Can't forget that Payton back in the line up has been huge. Randle has had much better games of late, Mitch is staying out of foul trouble and Morris has been real steady. Players also had that players only meeting which seemed to have shifted the effort level and communication. Still, if the coach gets the blame for when a team is playing badly, so should he get the praise when its playing well.

Miller has done a few things differently but there are two very clear differences in the teams Miller/Fizdale coached. One is one defense which is all on Fizdale. Miller's Knicks dont switch like Fizdale's. They fight over screens and look to push the driving big to help. That resulted in better defensive everything and shows in the stats.

The other is the forwards initiate the offense less. Its back to the guards. That has resulted in better play also, and is a big part of Randle's reassurance. Now Fizdale didnt really have Elf and he's really helped. Also the best guard play was a good stretch from Frank early on when he was starting and that was under Fizdale.

That being said Miller's offense simply passes the eye test. There is much more motion and guards moving and much less forwards holding the ball.

Hard to deny team looks much better on both ends of the floor with Mike.

2 things on offense that stand out is the spacing and utilization of the PNR. Miller has the team running some 4-out 1-in sets that has spaced the floor and allowed for guys to get into the paint. He also has the team setting more off the ball screens which has allowed for some back door and basket cuts.

Also, the PNR has opened Mitch's offensive game as well as allowing our pg's get two feet in the paint....

Definitely can't deny that Miller has made some positive adjustments....

mind boggling that Fiz didnt run a P&R staple, especially after "watching Frank in the Fiba."

Here's a nice catch I saw from reddit:
https://theathletic.com/1512674/2020/01/06/a-death-mobile-a-mountain-dew-habit-and-vhs-tapes-of-the-triangle-offense-how-mike-miller-went-from-a-little-known-coach-to-leading-the-knicks/?source=shared-article

Miller has the Buford endorsement. He may have some legit coaching chops. Fingers crossed he a part of something good here

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:Assistant coaches have as much if not more time on the floor with players.
Miller was around plenty last season as they share the same practice facility with knicks. No secrets and its not like miller came thru the door when Fiz was shown out. could be work habits, attitude, what ever. If it does not translate on the court and can’t be fixed for what ever reason, its time to move on. could be best for him, or the team to open a spot. Bullock at SG moves him down a notch and we got kids in the Gleague lighting it up.

Dont be afraid to quote me Nalod, if you're going to respond to my post. You made my point, Miller spent plenty of time with Trier. Enough time to form his own opinion. Trier was in the doghouse under Fizdale, and under Miller. Dont believe thats a coincidence, or strictly what's happening on the court. Dont see Trier's play alone accounting for the lack of minutes. Seen worse out there.