TheGame wrote:The problem is this team has no offensive leader. We need a complete PG. Frank is too scared to score, Smith is bad at defense and cannot shoot, and Payton is only average at anything. Randle is not built to be the lead scorer. RJ is the real deal but he does not have the experience to lead the team. The bottomline is this team sucks and it is going to continue to suck until we get a PG that can run the offense, play defense, and score more than 12 pts a game, and there is not much Fiz can do to change that.

Start the tank for Ball or Edwards.

I was reading this thread as if it was from last nights game - makes sense!
Yeah, crossed my mind as well - we have no offensive leader. I mean Marcus but he is a bit on his own, no offense to him.
Frank brings the ball up the court, starts the offense and then disappears. I am not sure I saw him drive into the paint yesterday. It was frustrating. He had the chance to try.
RJ is doing what Frank should, but I'd rather develop Trier.

In a nutshell, this team is VERY POORLY constructed. We need shooters around RJ and we need a PG to compliment him.
At this point, as early as it is, I'd start giving Iggy minutes. Honestly, can he be any worse than all the vets outside of Morris?
He seems like a glue guy that would actually help bring some offense when Frank is out there.
What a hot mess.

Lottery, here we come. Hopefully we get the best PG, whomever that is.

Nalod wrote:Fiz,
Hope your getting exercise and eating right.
Make sure your maxing your 401k and any differed compensation plans offered to MSG execs.

this is the funniest sht you ever posted

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!!!

knicks1248 wrote:I wonder if Fiz realizeS that almost all of our FA signings are having career low's in every statistical category

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!!!

Wow...didn't realize this. It's still early, so there's time to turn it around but if this trend continues, it wont be a good look. I'm sure the plan was to move some of these 1 year deals FA at the deadline and their value needs to be up at some point.

knicks1248 wrote:I wonder if Fiz realizeS that almost all of our FA signings are having career low's in every statistical category

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!!!

Your posts indicate your enjoying this.

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don’t know what you guys were expecting from the Knicks. I’m of the rebuild but half azzing the rebuild has left this team and young without the needed identity required for winning basketball. It doesn’t help when you have a coach who isn’t good at what he does. You trade your franchise player and don’t get a franchise caliber player back that’s a loss right there. That is taking ten steps back it is hard to get one franchise player much less have two. They could of used that going forward.

Replacing KP with Randle I don’t understand why they couldn’t just give KP the money. Last night the Knicks really needed a second pg badly. Once Frank was out the game no way in hell the team was going to have a chance at winning. This position less basketball has to go the Knicks have to stop being like other teams and just create an identity of their own.

Let’s start with RJ and groom him in the mold of Kobe and Harden and all these top notch SGs. I like the idea of him bringing the ball up and being able to play some PG. He is young I like Frank going forward but he has to unleash his offensive game if he keeps this up the Knicks won’t win much because he simple is squeaky wheel on offense and Fox didn’t even respect. It’s time for Frank to attack and shoot more.

It’s time to get back to the rebuild.

A winning culture

He wasn't signing no extension until the knicks showed it was all about winning, and we tanked

Those guys had talent around them( Kobe, shaq, solid vets, westbrook, KD), stability, and a winning culture.

What We have is a rotating roster every offseason that resembles fizdales daily rotations, and a F/O that has been Hundred + games UNDER .500

I have no problem that KP left but the fact that our management made an absolute weak attempt in retaining his services was well documented. Also if you are going to trade your franchise player then a package that returns a franchise type player is a must. Knicks management did none of What should have been done. These beggars are acting like choosers. I think this free agency period told them who they were. Know your place and stop the delusional think that management has been displaying.

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I wonder if Fiz realizeS that almost all of our FA signings are having career low's in every statistical category

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!!!

Your posts indicate your enjoying this.

I think it indicates the incompetence of management.

Management- Hey fiz, i know you like to play high pace and shoot 3's (like the rest of the league) so we'll get you a bunch of slow ass big men who shoot 3's occasionally.

Management- Hey fiz, i know you you want to be a defense team, so will you get some defenders that can't shoot.

Management - Hey fiz Start frank, because every night we face a 20 point scoring PG, and frank avgs 5 points, and plays east to west, and has taken ZERO FT's on the yr..

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I wonder if Fiz realizeS that almost all of our FA signings are having career low's in every statistical category

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!!!

Your posts indicate your enjoying this.

I think it indicates the incompetence of management.

Indicates fans frustration with losing. I liked KP. Im convinced if he was here and Not Randle our situation would not be much better. You'd have Hardaway starting with Knox. No money for Morris. So lets not fool ourselves that this team would be all that great.
You watch KP? He is good. Dallas is all about Luka rising stardom right now. Not KP. We don't have anything close to Luka for KP to pair with. Barrett is good, but not like this kid.
Im frustrated and not happy but its not like even a change at the FO level would change anything this season.
Are we team on the rise like we played in Boston or the Shyt show from last night? Im not as compulsive as other fans to react game to game with conclusions other than its collectively not good.
As to what happpend with KP and his departure? Easy to kick either side to the curb and lay blame in frustration. I'm as knick well read as anyone and I don't have a verifiable explanation. What I get from some of you is rants and finger pointing born from frustration after a bad loss.

Nalod wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I wonder if Fiz realizeS that almost all of our FA signings are having career low's in every statistical category

TAKE THAT FOR DATA!!!!!

Your posts indicate your enjoying this.

I think it indicates the incompetence of management.

Indicates fans frustration with losing. I liked KP. Im convinced if he was here and Not Randle our situation would not be much better. You'd have Hardaway starting with Knox. No money for Morris. So lets not fool ourselves that this team would be all that great.
You watch KP? He is good. Dallas is all about Luka rising stardom right now. Not KP. We don't have anything close to Luka for KP to pair with. Barrett is good, but not like this kid.
Im frustrated and not happy but its not like even a change at the FO level would change anything this season.
Are we team on the rise like we played in Boston or the Shyt show from last night? Im not as compulsive as other fans to react game to game with conclusions other than its collectively not good.
As to what happpend with KP and his departure? Easy to kick either side to the curb and lay blame in frustration. I'm as knick well read as anyone and I don't have a verifiable explanation. What I get from some of you is rants and finger pointing born from frustration after a bad loss.

I think your a good neutral fan that has become immune to anything the Knicks do good or bad you find a way to enjoy it and make lemonade. I have noticed in Many occasions where you justify trades and managerial moves good or bad and call everything anyone say hind sight based or not in the know.

There is reason for frustration by the fans because we pay money to watch the shyt show and dedicate hours to the knicks. Frustration is thinking it wouldn’t have made a difference if he were here or there. Acceptance is what you preach and that my friend is all this management need it fans to do so they can continue to do stupid again and again. Acceptance in the name of pseudo rebuilding. Trading away franchise players without doing a proper trade partner. Adding to positions and saturating the playing time for young players. Young players riding the bench for two three days at a time. Yeah frustrating.