knicks1248 wrote:Sounds like were going into the season like last season.."Throw it on the wall and see if it sticks"

If he grabs a board I can see him just taking it down court to keep the defense on their heels, but to say you deliberately using him as a point fwd like he has handle and vision like Labron, pippen or Mason..is kind of crazy..

For 1 randle is suppose to be our go to guy, he also has an incentive to be the DOY, now you want him to bring the ball up..thats too much, especially when you have 5 guards who can do that.

knicks1248 wrote:Sounds like were going into the season like last season.."Throw it on the wall and see if it sticks"

If he grabs a board I can see him just taking it down court to keep the defense on their heels, but to say you deliberately using him as a point fwd like he has handle and vision like Labron, pippen or Mason..is kind of crazy..

For 1 randle is suppose to be our go to guy, he also has an incentive to be the DOY, now you want him to bring the ball up..thats too much, especially when you have 5 guards who can do that.

UPTEMPO! Remember good uptempo offense starts with good defense! If Randle has the ball why not let him a break. Would you rather he stop, hand the ball to PG? If Randle has the handle, we know he has a good midrange shot and can go to the rim. If so, why not let him run a two man game with Mitch, Port or Morris?

If your asking a coach to adapt to the tools he has, its not not throwing stuff out and see what sticks. He has new players, why wouldn't he experiment?

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Sounds like were going into the season like last season.."Throw it on the wall and see if it sticks"

If he grabs a board I can see him just taking it down court to keep the defense on their heels, but to say you deliberately using him as a point fwd like he has handle and vision like Labron, pippen or Mason..is kind of crazy..

For 1 randle is suppose to be our go to guy, he also has an incentive to be the DOY, now you want him to bring the ball up..thats too much, especially when you have 5 guards who can do that.

have you even bothered to look at Randle's play? He gets a lot of assists. He's a good ball mover and a very good passer. Also Dennis Smith is a scorer so Randle running the point forward at the top of the key gives you a lot of nice looks for DS in motion, something he more off. You funny

I'm not concern with him doing it if he rebounds the ball(like i said originally), but when you exerting all that energy on defense, then being the go to scorer, and now bringing up the ball.

That's too much for one player, and what will be the purpose?

It not like were loaded with knock down shooters at the guard position, in fact we have 3 PG's, frank, dsj,and payton that are anything but.

DSJ is a scorer, not a shooter.

You can tell by the offseason training that he has worked on being a point forward type that can handle & stretch the floor more so than a banger in the paint.

But the big picture if having Randle, Barrett, Smith/Peyton all be able to handle point duties and create for others. Where the ball flows constantly creating high % shots.

BigDaddyG wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Randle is a lottery talent who is at the perfect stage of his career. Where he has established what he is good at to the point where he can grow his untapped potential which is capitalzing on his guard/forward type handle & quickness wrapped in a bull dog physique and mentality.

You can tell by the offseason training that he has worked on being a point forward type that can handle & stretch the floor more so than a banger in the paint.

But the big picture if having Randle, Barrett, Smith/Peyton all be able to handle point duties and create for others. Where the ball flows constantly creating high % shots.

It all depends on the lineup, I guess. There are lineup combinations that might have him as one of the best spot up shooters on the floor. I know that sounds crazy, but he's made steady improvements. I think he can initiate early on offense and find guys in their spots. I might still prefer him more as finisher when th game slows down. Again, it depends on the rotation. As for him getting tired, I guess it's a good thing we did sign those 20 PFs

that's pretty funny..

But yeah, that was my major concerned, that at the end of games he would have no legs.

The one question that no media member has ask is, how deep will you rotations be, 9, 10, 11 or 12

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Randle is a lottery talent who is at the perfect stage of his career. Where he has established what he is good at to the point where he can grow his untapped potential which is capitalzing on his guard/forward type handle & quickness wrapped in a bull dog physique and mentality.

You can tell by the offseason training that he has worked on being a point forward type that can handle & stretch the floor more so than a banger in the paint.

But the big picture if having Randle, Barrett, Smith/Peyton all be able to handle point duties and create for others. Where the ball flows constantly creating high % shots.

It all depends on the lineup, I guess. There are lineup combinations that might have him as one of the best spot up shooters on the floor. I know that sounds crazy, but he's made steady improvements. I think he can initiate early on offense and find guys in their spots. I might still prefer him more as finisher when th game slows down. Again, it depends on the rotation. As for him getting tired, I guess it's a good thing we did sign those 20 PFs

that's pretty funny..

But yeah, that was my major concerned, that at the end of games he would have no legs.

The one question that no media member has ask is, how deep will you rotations be, 9, 10, 11 or 12

This roster reminds me of a less talented version of that Nuggets team, post melo trade. We can run a number of guys out and maybe win some games through attrition. Payton and Frank defending players at the top could tire guys out. I don't know how much Ellington and Bullock have left, but we have guys who can pressure on the wings. I'm interested to see what direction Fiz takes.

I see this team very capable of doing what the Nets and clippers did last season. and a huge part of their success was COACHING and system. They had pieces that fit, and they didn't waiver from their system at no point, even after a few losses and key injuries..

I'm hoping we don't have to deal with 40 different line ups and 20 different rotations just to give players PT or because we loss a few games in a row

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Randle is a lottery talent who is at the perfect stage of his career. Where he has established what he is good at to the point where he can grow his untapped potential which is capitalzing on his guard/forward type handle & quickness wrapped in a bull dog physique and mentality.

You can tell by the offseason training that he has worked on being a point forward type that can handle & stretch the floor more so than a banger in the paint.

But the big picture if having Randle, Barrett, Smith/Peyton all be able to handle point duties and create for others. Where the ball flows constantly creating high % shots.

It all depends on the lineup, I guess. There are lineup combinations that might have him as one of the best spot up shooters on the floor. I know that sounds crazy, but he's made steady improvements. I think he can initiate early on offense and find guys in their spots. I might still prefer him more as finisher when th game slows down. Again, it depends on the rotation. As for him getting tired, I guess it's a good thing we did sign those 20 PFs

that's pretty funny..

But yeah, that was my major concerned, that at the end of games he would have no legs.

The one question that no media member has ask is, how deep will you rotations be, 9, 10, 11 or 12

This roster reminds me of a less talented version of that Nuggets team, post melo trade. We can run a number of guys out and maybe win some games through attrition. Payton and Frank defending players at the top could tire guys out. I don't know how much Ellington and Bullock have left, but we have guys who can pressure on the wings. I'm interested to see what direction Fiz takes.

I see this team very capable of doing what the Nets and clippers did last season. and a huge part of their success was COACHING and system. They had pieces that fit, and they didn't waiver from their system at no point, even after a few losses and key injuries..

I'm hoping we don't have to deal with 40 different line ups and 20 different rotations just to give players PT or because we loss a few games in a row

Did you think the Nets had great coaching when they were 20-62 and 28-54 in the two years before last? Cause it was the staff. Just wondering where you stand on that. Did they just learn to coach this LAST year? Was there a process involved? 20 wins aint much better than 17....

Sad, I've become like a "Knicks1248" profiler given my obsession and to do that you have to think like "Rainman". Because of this I know the response he'll give. I'd PM you if I could to check my accuracy. I'll be honest if he responds.