knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Another nice game by Melo. Can't get much more efficient than 28 pts on 17 shots. And best defensive rating next to Whiteside. The return of Olympic Dad Melo.
Lillard is an absolute freak. How long will it be before Stotts has him unleashing half court 3's? Multiple highlights being labeled "See Lillard's 47 foot three"

Melo really hasn't been that efficient from offense overall. He's shooting a nice percentage from three. He should take more. Haven't really watched Portland. Wonder if Stotts is just keeping him in the mid-range area to make more space for the guards.

Not talking about overall, just this one game, where he also extended his clutch shots lead over anyone playing since 2003.

When you've got the backcourt that Portland has (when McCollum shows up), Melo ends up taking more mid range, even though there's lots of hate for the long 2. He's getting some games where he's wide open from 3, but from what little I've actually seen, he's still playing bully ball as well.

Biggest difference is that Portland is not sticking him in the corner and looking for him to just be a 3pt shooter. Coach is letting him post up and play mid range.

Stotts is a really good coach. D'Antoni sucks. Got to see the suck in NY. I do wonder if Melo finally healed from his knee surgery. He looks a lot better than he did in OKC.

You are showing your blind spot with the Dantoni hate

Maybe. Thought it was a big mistake for Melo to go play for a guy that waited five years for his career to take an upswing before trashing Melo. I don't think Mike ever wins a championship. I don't think he adapts to his roster and I think his short rotations destroy his team when the playoffs come around.

On the other hand Mike ushered in the modern NBA, made a god of Harden, has made the finals, won Coach of the year with 2 different teams.

You know who also shortened rotations during playoffs? Pat Riley and nearly every other deep playoff coach.

We disagree about D’Antoni but to me Melo looks better than he did his last year with the Knicks. Maybe he is just finally healthy and needed the time off.

Or maybe he's just playing with the type of PG's he never had a chance to play with.

Just think, when he was 3rd in MVP votes, he had Kidd and Felton playing at a high level

That was 7 years ago when he was 28!

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Another nice game by Melo. Can't get much more efficient than 28 pts on 17 shots. And best defensive rating next to Whiteside. The return of Olympic Dad Melo.
Lillard is an absolute freak. How long will it be before Stotts has him unleashing half court 3's? Multiple highlights being labeled "See Lillard's 47 foot three"

Melo really hasn't been that efficient from offense overall. He's shooting a nice percentage from three. He should take more. Haven't really watched Portland. Wonder if Stotts is just keeping him in the mid-range area to make more space for the guards.

Not talking about overall, just this one game, where he also extended his clutch shots lead over anyone playing since 2003.

When you've got the backcourt that Portland has (when McCollum shows up), Melo ends up taking more mid range, even though there's lots of hate for the long 2. He's getting some games where he's wide open from 3, but from what little I've actually seen, he's still playing bully ball as well.

Biggest difference is that Portland is not sticking him in the corner and looking for him to just be a 3pt shooter. Coach is letting him post up and play mid range.

Stotts is a really good coach. D'Antoni sucks. Got to see the suck in NY. I do wonder if Melo finally healed from his knee surgery. He looks a lot better than he did in OKC.

You are showing your blind spot with the Dantoni hate

Maybe. Thought it was a big mistake for Melo to go play for a guy that waited five years for his career to take an upswing before trashing Melo. I don't think Mike ever wins a championship. I don't think he adapts to his roster and I think his short rotations destroy his team when the playoffs come around.

On the other hand Mike ushered in the modern NBA, made a god of Harden, has made the finals, won Coach of the year with 2 different teams.

You know who also shortened rotations during playoffs? Pat Riley and nearly every other deep playoff coach.

We disagree about D’Antoni but to me Melo looks better than he did his last year with the Knicks. Maybe he is just finally healthy and needed the time off.

Or maybe he's just playing with the type of PG's he never had a chance to play with.

Just think, when he was 3rd in MVP votes, he had Kidd and Felton playing at a high level

Portland's bench sucks, so they're not going very far even if they make the playoffs.

PG and Russ and Harden and CP3 were also better than anyone he played with in NYC.

With Melo here it was about the misfit toys he had to play with. Post Knicks, it's more about the environment Melo finds himself in. Is Stotts a factor in how he's using Melo? Dunno. Looks pretty much now like the same Melo we watched here. Maybe not quite as fat.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Another nice game by Melo. Can't get much more efficient than 28 pts on 17 shots. And best defensive rating next to Whiteside. The return of Olympic Dad Melo.
Lillard is an absolute freak. How long will it be before Stotts has him unleashing half court 3's? Multiple highlights being labeled "See Lillard's 47 foot three"

Melo really hasn't been that efficient from offense overall. He's shooting a nice percentage from three. He should take more. Haven't really watched Portland. Wonder if Stotts is just keeping him in the mid-range area to make more space for the guards.

Not talking about overall, just this one game, where he also extended his clutch shots lead over anyone playing since 2003.

When you've got the backcourt that Portland has (when McCollum shows up), Melo ends up taking more mid range, even though there's lots of hate for the long 2. He's getting some games where he's wide open from 3, but from what little I've actually seen, he's still playing bully ball as well.

Biggest difference is that Portland is not sticking him in the corner and looking for him to just be a 3pt shooter. Coach is letting him post up and play mid range.

Stotts is a really good coach. D'Antoni sucks. Got to see the suck in NY. I do wonder if Melo finally healed from his knee surgery. He looks a lot better than he did in OKC.

You are showing your blind spot with the Dantoni hate

Maybe. Thought it was a big mistake for Melo to go play for a guy that waited five years for his career to take an upswing before trashing Melo. I don't think Mike ever wins a championship. I don't think he adapts to his roster and I think his short rotations destroy his team when the playoffs come around.

On the other hand Mike ushered in the modern NBA, made a god of Harden, has made the finals, won Coach of the year with 2 different teams.

You know who also shortened rotations during playoffs? Pat Riley and nearly every other deep playoff coach.

That's the playoff tho. How many times does Harden have to tire out in the post-season before Stache learns to let his foot up in the regular season. And I'll always harp on his ability to make all the talent in his roster connect with his system. Forget Melo, look at CP3. He looked washed in Houston last year.

This would have been a nice way for US to pick up a couple of second rounders. As I hoped a few weeks ago, we should be on the look out out for teams looking to dump salary and picks. We have Bullock Taj, Ellington and Portis that are easily at the same level of Trevor Ariza.

HofstraBBall wrote:

This would have been a nice way for US to pick up a couple of second rounders. As I hoped a few weeks ago, we should be on the look out out for teams looking to dump salary and picks. We have Bullock Taj, Ellington and Portis that are easily at the same level of Trevor Ariza.

HofstraBBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

This would have been a nice way for US to pick up a couple of second rounders. As I hoped a few weeks ago, we should be on the look out out for teams looking to dump salary and picks. We have Bullock Taj, Ellington and Portis that are easily at the same level of Trevor Ariza.

Bazemore is making 19 mil this year. Portland was looking to lower their tax hit. Not sure the Knicks could have provided the cap/tax relief that the Kings did. Ariza's salary was 12.5 mil.

Does not Portis and Dotson or Portis and Wooten or Allen get them there? Believe Portis and Dotson saves them even more than current trade. Would rather give up Allen or Wooten but dont know if that entices them nor if Allen or Wooten can be traded. Question is was a call made to all teams letting them know Knicks were looking to do these type of deals? Have to think they did? Hopefully. I also know that Bazemore has a good relationship with Walton and maybe Portland FO had his interest in mind.

Wait, why don’t you just go look up the salaries to find out if Portis and whatnot would save Portland more $ instead of the trade they made. And then ask yourself about the players themselves and what positions Blazers were looking for. And then ask yourself if a 2way contract has ever been included in a trade before.

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