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8/11/2019  12:37 AM
we signed reggie bullock because he can shoot of course it was too good of a deal signing that's why the contract is 2 years. Does anyone really think that someone like Iman Shumpert can make 10 mill a year and Reggie Bullock who can actually shoot the ball not get paid more?

these are the current salaries on the knicks... https://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york_knicks/
our prized rookies is getting paid more than what he's getting paid even before he plays a single nba season game.

look at the deals being given out there and then wonder if the reggie bullock signing is stupid

something tells me that knicks1248 = playa2 or knicks1248 = the "writer" who posted the "article" to begin with (terms used loosely)

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8/12/2019  10:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2019  10:17 PM
Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

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8/13/2019  12:20 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

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8/13/2019  1:50 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

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8/13/2019  9:28 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

who cares. We are ruining his development
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GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

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8/13/2019  9:53 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2019  6:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Culture change is a prerequisite, not a symptom.

You don't lose weight unless you change your eating habits.
You don't get cardio benefits unless you exercise.
You don't get a degree in school unless you study and go to class.

If something is not working you make changes. The results are often incremental.
On subject.......

for those that can't understand........

Kevin Durant is being paid 35mm to sit a year. Then will continue his career at that pay scale. He has earned this contract as he was a top 5 player at the time he was hurt. Nets see value in this. Agree or not, its debatable. Klay got paid too. KP only a season and a half, would have been off the court for 20 months and wanted a full max deal. Knicks balked at that.

Reggie Bullock if healthy was signed to a two year deal worth 21mm.

"in 2017-18, n 62 games (52 starts), the 6'7" wing scored a career-high 11.3 points on 48.9 percent shooting. He was also scorching hot from deep thanks to a 44.5 percent three-point rate."

"If Healthy".........What have we learned? Reggie had issues and had hard time with hit this season. Reggies agent and Reggie think he is fine. He gets a deal, and he is not fine.. To the small minded fan who believe in mummy curses the knicks are just being super nice guys and fools. Knicks and Reggie then decide Reggie gets surgery and if so there is a big big chance he returns to form. He is not KD and does not get 10mm to sit. We pay 2mm or there abouts for a player we think if good is a 10mm player. Second year Im going to guess is a team option? Thus we have a player now locked up for less than 5mm instead of 21mm. If he had been avoiding surgery because of the time out that has now been taken care of. Knicks while desperate to win now also put in place a future asset at a minimum investment. Smart? time will tell. Hindsight offer clarity when so available.
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8/13/2019  12:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2019  12:42 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

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8/13/2019  1:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2019  1:27 PM
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

It starts with Dolan

Fire mills, Promote perry to president and fiz to gm(since he such a great sales guy)then hire a real experience coach.

David Griffin pulling his name out of consideration for the Knicks job isn’t of itself a disaster of epic proportions. He would have been a very good hire with his past experience as an executive in the NBA, but his tenure as general manager of the Cavaliers was not flawless and was also certainly affected by the presence of LeBron James. He isn’t Pat Riley.

Griffin removed himself from consideration because the Knicks are a Chernobyl-level disaster. Thanks to great reporting by Adrian Wojnarowski, Ian Begley, Ramona Shelbourne, Dave McMenamin, Stefan Bondy and other Knicks beat reporters, we know Griffin turned down the Knicks job because he wouldn’t actually be in charge. According to these reports, Griffin was not confident he would have autonomy to make basketball decisions. He would also not be allowed to bring in his own people to replace executives already in the Knicks’ front office, such as assistant general manager Allan Houston.

Any basketball exec worth his salt would request the ability to have control over basketball decisions and bring in some of his own people to help run the team. They are not big asks. It is business as usual in the NBA. No one worthy of the job is going to come and work for the Knicks because of the restrictions placed upon him. Jackson was convinced by $60 million over five seasons, and he wasn’t even allowed to make the changes he wanted.

The Knicks aren’t going to have a real basketball person come in and change the culture because they won’t be allowed to by the people already in the building that owner James Dolan wants to keep in place. It’s a problem at Madison Square Garden that isn’t going to change. The Daily News’ Frank Isola correctly hammers this point home again and again, but Knicks fans too often don’t want to hear it because it sucks away whatever hope they might have for the future. The Garden is a shark tank that chews up and spits out anyone that jumps in. It won’t change because Dolan keeps the sharks in the tank. He wants them there. It is the culture he has created. Mills might be the biggest one in the tank.

In retrospect, anyone who thought this Steve Mills-led search would end with anyone winding up in charge not named Steve Mills was fooling themselves. Mills was the sports business president of Madison Square Garden during Isiah Thomas’ regime. He was forced out of the job in 2009 after being embroiled in the Anucha Browne Sanders sexual harassment trial. She testified that Mills threatened her to stay quiet about some of the things she objected to that were happening inside the Garden. Mills and the Garden denied the accusations.

Mills’ hiatus, however, was a short one. He returned in 2013 and eventually replaced Glen Grunwald as the Knicks’ general manager. He was the man in charge of the basketball side of things until Jackson was hired as team president. Why would Mills want to hire anyone who would usurp his own power? Put simply: He wouldn’t. The fact that Dolan brought Mills back at all after the accusations leveled against him during the Browne Sanders trial shows his affinity for Mills. In most other companies around the world, charges and testimony like that would make someone impossible to retain or rehire in the same organization they had their issues. That person would be radioactive.

Not for Mills. He is running the Knicks. The man who has been in the building for all but four years since 2003 and has had the most consistent power of anyone in the Knicks’ organization other than Dolan is going to be guiding the Knicks into the future. He has Dolan’s trust. A person who has been in the building to oversee all of the losing, dysfunction and incompetence is now in charge with few, if any, checks on his power.

I’m a Knicks season ticket-holder, so it pains me to say this, but Knicks fans shouldn’t be optimistic. At this point, hope would be blind. Sure, there are good, young players on the roster who could grow together into a good team. Kristaps Porzingis could develop into a perennial All-Star. But there is absolutely no reason to believe the Knicks will be managed well enough to put the right pieces around him to challenge for a championship in the future.

What has happened in the past 15 years to make anyone think that Mills has the basketball mind and savvy to be creative enough to get the Knicks where they need to go? He already overpaid for an improving player in Tim Hardaway Jr. who could have been had for less (or a similar player) if he would have just exercised some patience and prudence. But when have the Knicks exercised either of those things?

this article is from 2017..and is says it all

What company on Gods green earth is going to rehire a man that was in the middle of a sexual Harassment case that all parties we convicted of..THAT'S YOUR CULTURE CHANGE.

THE KNICKS WONT GET STARS UNTIL MILLS IS GONE, and that won't happen until the NBA commissioner steps in and demands it.

Some of you are so fooled into thinking Perry as autonomy, yeah to bring one or 2 players like Payton and Mario

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8/13/2019  2:13 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

It starts with Dolan

Fire mills, Promote perry to president and fiz to gm(since he such a great sales guy)then hire a real experience coach.

David Griffin pulling his name out of consideration for the Knicks job isn’t of itself a disaster of epic proportions. He would have been a very good hire with his past experience as an executive in the NBA, but his tenure as general manager of the Cavaliers was not flawless and was also certainly affected by the presence of LeBron James. He isn’t Pat Riley.

Griffin removed himself from consideration because the Knicks are a Chernobyl-level disaster. Thanks to great reporting by Adrian Wojnarowski, Ian Begley, Ramona Shelbourne, Dave McMenamin, Stefan Bondy and other Knicks beat reporters, we know Griffin turned down the Knicks job because he wouldn’t actually be in charge. According to these reports, Griffin was not confident he would have autonomy to make basketball decisions. He would also not be allowed to bring in his own people to replace executives already in the Knicks’ front office, such as assistant general manager Allan Houston.

Any basketball exec worth his salt would request the ability to have control over basketball decisions and bring in some of his own people to help run the team. They are not big asks. It is business as usual in the NBA. No one worthy of the job is going to come and work for the Knicks because of the restrictions placed upon him. Jackson was convinced by $60 million over five seasons, and he wasn’t even allowed to make the changes he wanted.

The Knicks aren’t going to have a real basketball person come in and change the culture because they won’t be allowed to by the people already in the building that owner James Dolan wants to keep in place. It’s a problem at Madison Square Garden that isn’t going to change. The Daily News’ Frank Isola correctly hammers this point home again and again, but Knicks fans too often don’t want to hear it because it sucks away whatever hope they might have for the future. The Garden is a shark tank that chews up and spits out anyone that jumps in. It won’t change because Dolan keeps the sharks in the tank. He wants them there. It is the culture he has created. Mills might be the biggest one in the tank.

In retrospect, anyone who thought this Steve Mills-led search would end with anyone winding up in charge not named Steve Mills was fooling themselves. Mills was the sports business president of Madison Square Garden during Isiah Thomas’ regime. He was forced out of the job in 2009 after being embroiled in the Anucha Browne Sanders sexual harassment trial. She testified that Mills threatened her to stay quiet about some of the things she objected to that were happening inside the Garden. Mills and the Garden denied the accusations.

Mills’ hiatus, however, was a short one. He returned in 2013 and eventually replaced Glen Grunwald as the Knicks’ general manager. He was the man in charge of the basketball side of things until Jackson was hired as team president. Why would Mills want to hire anyone who would usurp his own power? Put simply: He wouldn’t. The fact that Dolan brought Mills back at all after the accusations leveled against him during the Browne Sanders trial shows his affinity for Mills. In most other companies around the world, charges and testimony like that would make someone impossible to retain or rehire in the same organization they had their issues. That person would be radioactive.

Not for Mills. He is running the Knicks. The man who has been in the building for all but four years since 2003 and has had the most consistent power of anyone in the Knicks’ organization other than Dolan is going to be guiding the Knicks into the future. He has Dolan’s trust. A person who has been in the building to oversee all of the losing, dysfunction and incompetence is now in charge with few, if any, checks on his power.

I’m a Knicks season ticket-holder, so it pains me to say this, but Knicks fans shouldn’t be optimistic. At this point, hope would be blind. Sure, there are good, young players on the roster who could grow together into a good team. Kristaps Porzingis could develop into a perennial All-Star. But there is absolutely no reason to believe the Knicks will be managed well enough to put the right pieces around him to challenge for a championship in the future.

What has happened in the past 15 years to make anyone think that Mills has the basketball mind and savvy to be creative enough to get the Knicks where they need to go? He already overpaid for an improving player in Tim Hardaway Jr. who could have been had for less (or a similar player) if he would have just exercised some patience and prudence. But when have the Knicks exercised either of those things?

this article is from 2017..and is says it all

What company on Gods green earth is going to rehire a man that was in the middle of a sexual Harassment case that all parties we convicted of..THAT'S YOUR CULTURE CHANGE.

THE KNICKS WONT GET STARS UNTIL MILLS IS GONE, and that won't happen until the NBA commissioner steps in and demands it.

Some of you are so fooled into thinking Perry as autonomy, yeah to bring one or 2 players like Payton and Mario

Do continue, you've got Fiz as GM despite him having zero experience of being a GM- what free agents are you signing?

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8/13/2019  2:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/13/2019  2:59 PM
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

It starts with Dolan

Fire mills, Promote perry to president and fiz to gm(since he such a great sales guy)then hire a real experience coach.

David Griffin pulling his name out of consideration for the Knicks job isn’t of itself a disaster of epic proportions. He would have been a very good hire with his past experience as an executive in the NBA, but his tenure as general manager of the Cavaliers was not flawless and was also certainly affected by the presence of LeBron James. He isn’t Pat Riley.

Griffin removed himself from consideration because the Knicks are a Chernobyl-level disaster. Thanks to great reporting by Adrian Wojnarowski, Ian Begley, Ramona Shelbourne, Dave McMenamin, Stefan Bondy and other Knicks beat reporters, we know Griffin turned down the Knicks job because he wouldn’t actually be in charge. According to these reports, Griffin was not confident he would have autonomy to make basketball decisions. He would also not be allowed to bring in his own people to replace executives already in the Knicks’ front office, such as assistant general manager Allan Houston.

Any basketball exec worth his salt would request the ability to have control over basketball decisions and bring in some of his own people to help run the team. They are not big asks. It is business as usual in the NBA. No one worthy of the job is going to come and work for the Knicks because of the restrictions placed upon him. Jackson was convinced by $60 million over five seasons, and he wasn’t even allowed to make the changes he wanted.

The Knicks aren’t going to have a real basketball person come in and change the culture because they won’t be allowed to by the people already in the building that owner James Dolan wants to keep in place. It’s a problem at Madison Square Garden that isn’t going to change. The Daily News’ Frank Isola correctly hammers this point home again and again, but Knicks fans too often don’t want to hear it because it sucks away whatever hope they might have for the future. The Garden is a shark tank that chews up and spits out anyone that jumps in. It won’t change because Dolan keeps the sharks in the tank. He wants them there. It is the culture he has created. Mills might be the biggest one in the tank.

In retrospect, anyone who thought this Steve Mills-led search would end with anyone winding up in charge not named Steve Mills was fooling themselves. Mills was the sports business president of Madison Square Garden during Isiah Thomas’ regime. He was forced out of the job in 2009 after being embroiled in the Anucha Browne Sanders sexual harassment trial. She testified that Mills threatened her to stay quiet about some of the things she objected to that were happening inside the Garden. Mills and the Garden denied the accusations.

Mills’ hiatus, however, was a short one. He returned in 2013 and eventually replaced Glen Grunwald as the Knicks’ general manager. He was the man in charge of the basketball side of things until Jackson was hired as team president. Why would Mills want to hire anyone who would usurp his own power? Put simply: He wouldn’t. The fact that Dolan brought Mills back at all after the accusations leveled against him during the Browne Sanders trial shows his affinity for Mills. In most other companies around the world, charges and testimony like that would make someone impossible to retain or rehire in the same organization they had their issues. That person would be radioactive.

Not for Mills. He is running the Knicks. The man who has been in the building for all but four years since 2003 and has had the most consistent power of anyone in the Knicks’ organization other than Dolan is going to be guiding the Knicks into the future. He has Dolan’s trust. A person who has been in the building to oversee all of the losing, dysfunction and incompetence is now in charge with few, if any, checks on his power.

I’m a Knicks season ticket-holder, so it pains me to say this, but Knicks fans shouldn’t be optimistic. At this point, hope would be blind. Sure, there are good, young players on the roster who could grow together into a good team. Kristaps Porzingis could develop into a perennial All-Star. But there is absolutely no reason to believe the Knicks will be managed well enough to put the right pieces around him to challenge for a championship in the future.

What has happened in the past 15 years to make anyone think that Mills has the basketball mind and savvy to be creative enough to get the Knicks where they need to go? He already overpaid for an improving player in Tim Hardaway Jr. who could have been had for less (or a similar player) if he would have just exercised some patience and prudence. But when have the Knicks exercised either of those things?

this article is from 2017..and is says it all

What company on Gods green earth is going to rehire a man that was in the middle of a sexual Harassment case that all parties we convicted of..THAT'S YOUR CULTURE CHANGE.

THE KNICKS WONT GET STARS UNTIL MILLS IS GONE, and that won't happen until the NBA commissioner steps in and demands it.

Some of you are so fooled into thinking Perry as autonomy, yeah to bring one or 2 players like Payton and Mario

Do continue, you've got Fiz as GM despite him having zero experience of being a GM- what free agents are you signing?


Players like perry and Fiz(especially fiz) he has a solid reputation with a lot of players around the league, and they respect him and believe in him.

But Dolan and Mills are one in the same, and players, media and agents know this. How many owners do you see out here getting into beefs with fans and media?

Perry is the GM and he can't even speak to the media without permission from mills and dolan, fiz already went public with that

All That shts embarrassing

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knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

It starts with Dolan

Fire mills, Promote perry to president and fiz to gm(since he such a great sales guy)then hire a real experience coach.

David Griffin pulling his name out of consideration for the Knicks job isn’t of itself a disaster of epic proportions. He would have been a very good hire with his past experience as an executive in the NBA, but his tenure as general manager of the Cavaliers was not flawless and was also certainly affected by the presence of LeBron James. He isn’t Pat Riley.

Griffin removed himself from consideration because the Knicks are a Chernobyl-level disaster. Thanks to great reporting by Adrian Wojnarowski, Ian Begley, Ramona Shelbourne, Dave McMenamin, Stefan Bondy and other Knicks beat reporters, we know Griffin turned down the Knicks job because he wouldn’t actually be in charge. According to these reports, Griffin was not confident he would have autonomy to make basketball decisions. He would also not be allowed to bring in his own people to replace executives already in the Knicks’ front office, such as assistant general manager Allan Houston.

Any basketball exec worth his salt would request the ability to have control over basketball decisions and bring in some of his own people to help run the team. They are not big asks. It is business as usual in the NBA. No one worthy of the job is going to come and work for the Knicks because of the restrictions placed upon him. Jackson was convinced by $60 million over five seasons, and he wasn’t even allowed to make the changes he wanted.

The Knicks aren’t going to have a real basketball person come in and change the culture because they won’t be allowed to by the people already in the building that owner James Dolan wants to keep in place. It’s a problem at Madison Square Garden that isn’t going to change. The Daily News’ Frank Isola correctly hammers this point home again and again, but Knicks fans too often don’t want to hear it because it sucks away whatever hope they might have for the future. The Garden is a shark tank that chews up and spits out anyone that jumps in. It won’t change because Dolan keeps the sharks in the tank. He wants them there. It is the culture he has created. Mills might be the biggest one in the tank.

In retrospect, anyone who thought this Steve Mills-led search would end with anyone winding up in charge not named Steve Mills was fooling themselves. Mills was the sports business president of Madison Square Garden during Isiah Thomas’ regime. He was forced out of the job in 2009 after being embroiled in the Anucha Browne Sanders sexual harassment trial. She testified that Mills threatened her to stay quiet about some of the things she objected to that were happening inside the Garden. Mills and the Garden denied the accusations.

Mills’ hiatus, however, was a short one. He returned in 2013 and eventually replaced Glen Grunwald as the Knicks’ general manager. He was the man in charge of the basketball side of things until Jackson was hired as team president. Why would Mills want to hire anyone who would usurp his own power? Put simply: He wouldn’t. The fact that Dolan brought Mills back at all after the accusations leveled against him during the Browne Sanders trial shows his affinity for Mills. In most other companies around the world, charges and testimony like that would make someone impossible to retain or rehire in the same organization they had their issues. That person would be radioactive.

Not for Mills. He is running the Knicks. The man who has been in the building for all but four years since 2003 and has had the most consistent power of anyone in the Knicks’ organization other than Dolan is going to be guiding the Knicks into the future. He has Dolan’s trust. A person who has been in the building to oversee all of the losing, dysfunction and incompetence is now in charge with few, if any, checks on his power.

I’m a Knicks season ticket-holder, so it pains me to say this, but Knicks fans shouldn’t be optimistic. At this point, hope would be blind. Sure, there are good, young players on the roster who could grow together into a good team. Kristaps Porzingis could develop into a perennial All-Star. But there is absolutely no reason to believe the Knicks will be managed well enough to put the right pieces around him to challenge for a championship in the future.

What has happened in the past 15 years to make anyone think that Mills has the basketball mind and savvy to be creative enough to get the Knicks where they need to go? He already overpaid for an improving player in Tim Hardaway Jr. who could have been had for less (or a similar player) if he would have just exercised some patience and prudence. But when have the Knicks exercised either of those things?

this article is from 2017..and is says it all

What company on Gods green earth is going to rehire a man that was in the middle of a sexual Harassment case that all parties we convicted of..THAT'S YOUR CULTURE CHANGE.

THE KNICKS WONT GET STARS UNTIL MILLS IS GONE, and that won't happen until the NBA commissioner steps in and demands it.

Some of you are so fooled into thinking Perry as autonomy, yeah to bring one or 2 players like Payton and Mario

Do continue, you've got Fiz as GM despite him having zero experience of being a GM- what free agents are you signing?


Players like perry and Fiz(especially fiz) he has a solid reputation with a lot of players around the league, and they respect him and believe in him.

But Dolan and Mills are one in the same, and players, media and agents know this. How many owners do you see out here getting into beefs with fans and media?

Perry is the GM and he can't even speak to the media without permission from mills and dolan, fiz already went public with that

All That shts embarrassing

So what players are you signing?

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8/13/2019  3:19 PM
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

It starts with Dolan

Fire mills, Promote perry to president and fiz to gm(since he such a great sales guy)then hire a real experience coach.

David Griffin pulling his name out of consideration for the Knicks job isn’t of itself a disaster of epic proportions. He would have been a very good hire with his past experience as an executive in the NBA, but his tenure as general manager of the Cavaliers was not flawless and was also certainly affected by the presence of LeBron James. He isn’t Pat Riley.

Griffin removed himself from consideration because the Knicks are a Chernobyl-level disaster. Thanks to great reporting by Adrian Wojnarowski, Ian Begley, Ramona Shelbourne, Dave McMenamin, Stefan Bondy and other Knicks beat reporters, we know Griffin turned down the Knicks job because he wouldn’t actually be in charge. According to these reports, Griffin was not confident he would have autonomy to make basketball decisions. He would also not be allowed to bring in his own people to replace executives already in the Knicks’ front office, such as assistant general manager Allan Houston.

Any basketball exec worth his salt would request the ability to have control over basketball decisions and bring in some of his own people to help run the team. They are not big asks. It is business as usual in the NBA. No one worthy of the job is going to come and work for the Knicks because of the restrictions placed upon him. Jackson was convinced by $60 million over five seasons, and he wasn’t even allowed to make the changes he wanted.

The Knicks aren’t going to have a real basketball person come in and change the culture because they won’t be allowed to by the people already in the building that owner James Dolan wants to keep in place. It’s a problem at Madison Square Garden that isn’t going to change. The Daily News’ Frank Isola correctly hammers this point home again and again, but Knicks fans too often don’t want to hear it because it sucks away whatever hope they might have for the future. The Garden is a shark tank that chews up and spits out anyone that jumps in. It won’t change because Dolan keeps the sharks in the tank. He wants them there. It is the culture he has created. Mills might be the biggest one in the tank.

In retrospect, anyone who thought this Steve Mills-led search would end with anyone winding up in charge not named Steve Mills was fooling themselves. Mills was the sports business president of Madison Square Garden during Isiah Thomas’ regime. He was forced out of the job in 2009 after being embroiled in the Anucha Browne Sanders sexual harassment trial. She testified that Mills threatened her to stay quiet about some of the things she objected to that were happening inside the Garden. Mills and the Garden denied the accusations.

Mills’ hiatus, however, was a short one. He returned in 2013 and eventually replaced Glen Grunwald as the Knicks’ general manager. He was the man in charge of the basketball side of things until Jackson was hired as team president. Why would Mills want to hire anyone who would usurp his own power? Put simply: He wouldn’t. The fact that Dolan brought Mills back at all after the accusations leveled against him during the Browne Sanders trial shows his affinity for Mills. In most other companies around the world, charges and testimony like that would make someone impossible to retain or rehire in the same organization they had their issues. That person would be radioactive.

Not for Mills. He is running the Knicks. The man who has been in the building for all but four years since 2003 and has had the most consistent power of anyone in the Knicks’ organization other than Dolan is going to be guiding the Knicks into the future. He has Dolan’s trust. A person who has been in the building to oversee all of the losing, dysfunction and incompetence is now in charge with few, if any, checks on his power.

I’m a Knicks season ticket-holder, so it pains me to say this, but Knicks fans shouldn’t be optimistic. At this point, hope would be blind. Sure, there are good, young players on the roster who could grow together into a good team. Kristaps Porzingis could develop into a perennial All-Star. But there is absolutely no reason to believe the Knicks will be managed well enough to put the right pieces around him to challenge for a championship in the future.

What has happened in the past 15 years to make anyone think that Mills has the basketball mind and savvy to be creative enough to get the Knicks where they need to go? He already overpaid for an improving player in Tim Hardaway Jr. who could have been had for less (or a similar player) if he would have just exercised some patience and prudence. But when have the Knicks exercised either of those things?

this article is from 2017..and is says it all

What company on Gods green earth is going to rehire a man that was in the middle of a sexual Harassment case that all parties we convicted of..THAT'S YOUR CULTURE CHANGE.

THE KNICKS WONT GET STARS UNTIL MILLS IS GONE, and that won't happen until the NBA commissioner steps in and demands it.

Some of you are so fooled into thinking Perry as autonomy, yeah to bring one or 2 players like Payton and Mario

Do continue, you've got Fiz as GM despite him having zero experience of being a GM- what free agents are you signing?


Players like perry and Fiz(especially fiz) he has a solid reputation with a lot of players around the league, and they respect him and believe in him.

But Dolan and Mills are one in the same, and players, media and agents know this. How many owners do you see out here getting into beefs with fans and media?

Perry is the GM and he can't even speak to the media without permission from mills and dolan, fiz already went public with that

All That shts embarrassing

So what players are you signing?

hahaha. it's like u're a bored kid on a summer afternoon and u're amusing yourself by pulling the legs off a spider . . .

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8/13/2019  3:29 PM
Marv wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Do please detail what you would have done with the cap space

It starts with Dolan

Fire mills, Promote perry to president and fiz to gm(since he such a great sales guy)then hire a real experience coach.

David Griffin pulling his name out of consideration for the Knicks job isn’t of itself a disaster of epic proportions. He would have been a very good hire with his past experience as an executive in the NBA, but his tenure as general manager of the Cavaliers was not flawless and was also certainly affected by the presence of LeBron James. He isn’t Pat Riley.

Griffin removed himself from consideration because the Knicks are a Chernobyl-level disaster. Thanks to great reporting by Adrian Wojnarowski, Ian Begley, Ramona Shelbourne, Dave McMenamin, Stefan Bondy and other Knicks beat reporters, we know Griffin turned down the Knicks job because he wouldn’t actually be in charge. According to these reports, Griffin was not confident he would have autonomy to make basketball decisions. He would also not be allowed to bring in his own people to replace executives already in the Knicks’ front office, such as assistant general manager Allan Houston.

Any basketball exec worth his salt would request the ability to have control over basketball decisions and bring in some of his own people to help run the team. They are not big asks. It is business as usual in the NBA. No one worthy of the job is going to come and work for the Knicks because of the restrictions placed upon him. Jackson was convinced by $60 million over five seasons, and he wasn’t even allowed to make the changes he wanted.

The Knicks aren’t going to have a real basketball person come in and change the culture because they won’t be allowed to by the people already in the building that owner James Dolan wants to keep in place. It’s a problem at Madison Square Garden that isn’t going to change. The Daily News’ Frank Isola correctly hammers this point home again and again, but Knicks fans too often don’t want to hear it because it sucks away whatever hope they might have for the future. The Garden is a shark tank that chews up and spits out anyone that jumps in. It won’t change because Dolan keeps the sharks in the tank. He wants them there. It is the culture he has created. Mills might be the biggest one in the tank.

In retrospect, anyone who thought this Steve Mills-led search would end with anyone winding up in charge not named Steve Mills was fooling themselves. Mills was the sports business president of Madison Square Garden during Isiah Thomas’ regime. He was forced out of the job in 2009 after being embroiled in the Anucha Browne Sanders sexual harassment trial. She testified that Mills threatened her to stay quiet about some of the things she objected to that were happening inside the Garden. Mills and the Garden denied the accusations.

Mills’ hiatus, however, was a short one. He returned in 2013 and eventually replaced Glen Grunwald as the Knicks’ general manager. He was the man in charge of the basketball side of things until Jackson was hired as team president. Why would Mills want to hire anyone who would usurp his own power? Put simply: He wouldn’t. The fact that Dolan brought Mills back at all after the accusations leveled against him during the Browne Sanders trial shows his affinity for Mills. In most other companies around the world, charges and testimony like that would make someone impossible to retain or rehire in the same organization they had their issues. That person would be radioactive.

Not for Mills. He is running the Knicks. The man who has been in the building for all but four years since 2003 and has had the most consistent power of anyone in the Knicks’ organization other than Dolan is going to be guiding the Knicks into the future. He has Dolan’s trust. A person who has been in the building to oversee all of the losing, dysfunction and incompetence is now in charge with few, if any, checks on his power.

I’m a Knicks season ticket-holder, so it pains me to say this, but Knicks fans shouldn’t be optimistic. At this point, hope would be blind. Sure, there are good, young players on the roster who could grow together into a good team. Kristaps Porzingis could develop into a perennial All-Star. But there is absolutely no reason to believe the Knicks will be managed well enough to put the right pieces around him to challenge for a championship in the future.

What has happened in the past 15 years to make anyone think that Mills has the basketball mind and savvy to be creative enough to get the Knicks where they need to go? He already overpaid for an improving player in Tim Hardaway Jr. who could have been had for less (or a similar player) if he would have just exercised some patience and prudence. But when have the Knicks exercised either of those things?

this article is from 2017..and is says it all

What company on Gods green earth is going to rehire a man that was in the middle of a sexual Harassment case that all parties we convicted of..THAT'S YOUR CULTURE CHANGE.

THE KNICKS WONT GET STARS UNTIL MILLS IS GONE, and that won't happen until the NBA commissioner steps in and demands it.

Some of you are so fooled into thinking Perry as autonomy, yeah to bring one or 2 players like Payton and Mario

Do continue, you've got Fiz as GM despite him having zero experience of being a GM- what free agents are you signing?


Players like perry and Fiz(especially fiz) he has a solid reputation with a lot of players around the league, and they respect him and believe in him.

But Dolan and Mills are one in the same, and players, media and agents know this. How many owners do you see out here getting into beefs with fans and media?

Perry is the GM and he can't even speak to the media without permission from mills and dolan, fiz already went public with that

All That shts embarrassing

So what players are you signing?

hahaha. it's like u're a bored kid on a summer afternoon and u're amusing yourself by pulling the legs off a spider . . .

you guys are both stupid. Also he answered the question! He would have used the cap space to fire Mills.

Duh

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8/13/2019  6:18 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Im sorry 1248, but you sound like a kid who didnt get the toys he wants for Xmas. Most of the top FA candidates where either hurt or a bad fit (Irving). The classic Knicks way would be to sign any all-star, at any stage in their career for max dollars. Instead mgmt decided not to make any long term commitments, while fielding a squad who should be a step up from what we've seen the last few years, too many years.

Not getting what were you expecting, given the health of the top FAs who were available? I get the frustration with all the losing, the mismanagement. But you've seen so much losing that you are reflexively dissing every move the team makes. Cant blame you 1248, but it doesnt make for great conversation.

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8/13/2019  6:21 PM
RAINMAN finds a blog that he then calls it an article to support his opinion.
Nobody said the Rainman can't have opinions. But to use a blog with no link is really bad dude.

The article you posted is from John Schmeelk. He is a freelance journalist. not credentialed (Good word to look up) He might be a fine guy, maybe wants a job.
This is him:

Cover Giants for @giants.com, host of Bank Shot Knicks Pod, blog NYK for @wfan660, @mikeson videos, PBP/Sideline for @necsports. Likes/retweets not endorsements

Got that from https://muckrack.com/john-schmeelk
The blog contribution comes from: https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/10/steve-mills-in-charge-knicks/

It is imbecilic to take that and call it an "article" as if someone researched. .
You are using this as some type validation. It validates your a fraud.
Your word vomit attempts to defend your opinion when challenged dilutes the integrity of the UK. You typically try to find an "article" that agrees with the point you made.

Credible sources are people who have a reputation of getting information first hand. Credentialed writers have access to the players and some front office employees whose job description it is to communicate with the Media. Dolan is a piece of shyt. We know this. If you want to debate Mills it would serve you well to understand his previous job titles and a time line that is accurate. Unless you can verify what where his actual decisions were and when it was pertinent then your making shyt up.

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8/14/2019  9:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/14/2019  9:10 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Im sorry 1248, but you sound like a kid who didnt get the toys he wants for Xmas. Most of the top FA candidates where either hurt or a bad fit (Irving). The classic Knicks way would be to sign any all-star, at any stage in their career for max dollars. Instead mgmt decided not to make any long term commitments, while fielding a squad who should be a step up from what we've seen the last few years, too many years.

Not getting what were you expecting, given the health of the top FAs who were available? I get the frustration with all the losing, the mismanagement. But you've seen so much losing that you are reflexively dissing every move the team makes. Cant blame you 1248, but it doesnt make for great conversation.



There's only one thing that needs to be done, and it starts with Mills, nothing good has happened since he's been here..That is where my frustration starts and ends.

The team has been dysfunctional since he's been a part of it..and we have had the worst record in the NBA since he's gotten here to prove it... Every single yr we either revamp the coaching staff, FO, or roster, some of ya'll don't think that's normal..lol

It's funny how most of the stars didn't sign max out long term contracts with any of their new teams team...sooo why couldn't Mills manage that..

right now I'm just hoping we are a good team this yr, because if we are not, your looking at major changes again next yr....

As far as who I would have sign, without mills I would have options..

And Nolad, your questioning a guys credentials because he doesn't write for the WSJ or NYT.

That's like saying Rich Paul needs a degree to be a Agent...Gtfoh..facts..

You knew mills was smack dead involved in the DRAMA at MSG with I T..you don't need a degree to report that..but your sucking him off because he didn't commit to long term contracts..lol..short sighted thinking

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8/14/2019  10:36 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Im sorry 1248, but you sound like a kid who didnt get the toys he wants for Xmas. Most of the top FA candidates where either hurt or a bad fit (Irving). The classic Knicks way would be to sign any all-star, at any stage in their career for max dollars. Instead mgmt decided not to make any long term commitments, while fielding a squad who should be a step up from what we've seen the last few years, too many years.

Not getting what were you expecting, given the health of the top FAs who were available? I get the frustration with all the losing, the mismanagement. But you've seen so much losing that you are reflexively dissing every move the team makes. Cant blame you 1248, but it doesnt make for great conversation.



There's only one thing that needs to be done, and it starts with Mills, nothing good has happened since he's been here..That is where my frustration starts and ends.

The team has been dysfunctional since he's been a part of it..and we have had the worst record in the NBA since he's gotten here to prove it... Every single yr we either revamp the coaching staff, FO, or roster, some of ya'll don't think that's normal..lol

It's funny how most of the stars didn't sign max out long term contracts with any of their new teams team...sooo why couldn't Mills manage that..

right now I'm just hoping we are a good team this yr, because if we are not, your looking at major changes again next yr....

As far as who I would have sign, without mills I would have options..

And Nolad, your questioning a guys credentials because he doesn't write for the WSJ or NYT.

That's like saying Rich Paul needs a degree to be a Agent...Gtfoh..facts..

You knew mills was smack dead involved in the DRAMA at MSG with I T..you don't need a degree to report that..but your sucking him off because he didn't commit to long term contracts..lol..short sighted thinking

Couple of things. First, you want to talk like that to another poster, quote them, not me.

Second, The Knicks waving a big pile a cash doesnt make them instantly the most desirable landing spot in the league. Going to take time to show the league that the Knicks arent being run according to Dolan's mood swings anymore.

Dont need to tell me how bad Mills has been. No one (including you) has spent more time on this board talking about how bad Mills has been historically. You arent even a close second. Thats why you should stop trying to explain how bad its been. I know, we know.

I also know since Perry was hired the Knicks have looked like a much more forward thinking and stable frsnchise. I give credit to Mills for seeing he needed more than a "yes man" and I give credit to Perry for not maxing out plan B or C stars.

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8/14/2019  10:42 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Havent seen enough of Bullock (at least I can remember) to be for or against this deal. But as others have pointed out, cant hurt the Knicks to show the league that they can be "stand up guys" when new information changes the negotiation process. Knicks arent exactly known as being a "player friendly" org. these days.

Believe Perry/Mills are doing a good job of showing a different side to this franchise. Will take time to change the team's image. Every bit helps.

This is still a sign of inept management..no research just sign here

Dude is taking up a roster spot some other healthy talented player could occupy.

Culture won't change until this team is over 500.

I hope we didn't take 74 million dollars to invest in the lottery

Doesnt take much effort to see every transaction as an inherently bad move. Still mad we drafted Mitch?

Would you consider this a successful off season..

I mean After the season we had, and the cap space we had available. In fact can't remember any Knick president who had this much funds available, can you?

Im sorry 1248, but you sound like a kid who didnt get the toys he wants for Xmas. Most of the top FA candidates where either hurt or a bad fit (Irving). The classic Knicks way would be to sign any all-star, at any stage in their career for max dollars. Instead mgmt decided not to make any long term commitments, while fielding a squad who should be a step up from what we've seen the last few years, too many years.

Not getting what were you expecting, given the health of the top FAs who were available? I get the frustration with all the losing, the mismanagement. But you've seen so much losing that you are reflexively dissing every move the team makes. Cant blame you 1248, but it doesnt make for great conversation.



There's only one thing that needs to be done, and it starts with Mills, nothing good has happened since he's been here..That is where my frustration starts and ends.

The team has been dysfunctional since he's been a part of it..and we have had the worst record in the NBA since he's gotten here to prove it... Every single yr we either revamp the coaching staff, FO, or roster, some of ya'll don't think that's normal..lol

It's funny how most of the stars didn't sign max out long term contracts with any of their new teams team...sooo why couldn't Mills manage that..

right now I'm just hoping we are a good team this yr, because if we are not, your looking at major changes again next yr....

As far as who I would have sign, without mills I would have options..

And Nolad, your questioning a guys credentials because he doesn't write for the WSJ or NYT.

That's like saying Rich Paul needs a degree to be a Agent...Gtfoh..facts..

You knew mills was smack dead involved in the DRAMA at MSG with I T..you don't need a degree to report that..but your sucking him off because he didn't commit to long term contracts..lol..short sighted thinking


Since I'm a simple guy, let me try to understand and simplify the points you are trying to make......

You think Mills had a terrible offseason running the Knicks because the Knicks did not fire Mills.

You want the Knicks to have a good season to avoid major changes such as turning over the entire coaching staff yet again......but also want the Knicks to fire Mills, Switch Perry, Switch Fiz and change out the coaching staff.

Seriously Why did we sign Reggie Bullock

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