BigDaddyG wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/knicks-shot-doctor-is-trying-to-save-dennis-smith-jr/

between this and the Summer League interview...this is music to my ears. Acknowledging and working on the problem are 2 big steps. Now to see it in game.

Wonder why Carlisle and company didn't address this sooner?

He probably. It's up to the player at the end of the day.

Correct. It also doesn’t mean much until game-day because you can revert back to old habits at the snap of the thumb.

Glad he is putting in the work though. I hope he breaks out.

Cartman718 wrote:https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/knicks-shot-doctor-is-trying-to-save-dennis-smith-jr/

between this and the Summer League interview...this is music to my ears. Acknowledging and working on the problem are 2 big steps. Now to see it in game.

Wonder why Carlisle and company didn't address this sooner?

Most NBA players can hit an alarming rate of shots in an empty gym and not at NBA "game speed"

When you are tired, hurt, mentally drained and frustrated, also with the immense pressures involved, then you are asked to do it at top level speed against world class athletes, this is a different story.

Changing something you've done TENS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES already is just very difficult to do.

A real competitor would have ID'ed and started to work on this stuff before you even get drafted. This is why Jimmy Butler is such a good player. Even before he was in the NBA, he outworked everyone.

Carlisle is one of the best coaches in the current NBA. But you can't make someone care enough to bleed everything they've got to relentlessly get better.

DSJr wants a new contract. His rookie deal and his primary developmental window are closing. Sure he's gonna start realizing he needs to work harder to get that money. How about working hard before you get to that point?

How is it the coaches fault that the player just doesn't care enough about his own game to develop it relentlessly?

Acknowledging the problem means jack ****. You put in the work and you execute. That's all that matters. Can you get it done? This is the same **** I've talked about before, giving credit to NBA players for SHIT THEY SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY TO JUST BE A BASELINE PROFESSIONAL.

He's such a good teammate!

You want a mother****ing cookie? It's your JOB to be a good teammate.

He's shown up in shape!

You want a gold star? It's your ****ing JOB to show up in elite condition.

So many fans set the bar so ****ing low it's sad.

If DSJr was actually doing his job to be the best player he could be from the time he was drafted, he wouldn't be in this situation now. ( Dumped to a losing team trying to salvage his career)

I'm not giving him credit for realizing he has a duty to do his ****ing job in the first place. If he wants a cookie, he can get one from you instead.

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why is frank not joining him, who's actually a worse shooter?

maybe because he has bigger problems! And he knows his time here is limited.

Weird..

I have the slightest clue what the want to do with that kid. Looks like they are putting most of their focus on DSJ, and Payton is a Perry guy, we have 3 sg that are ahead of frank @ that position.

I recall Ainge saying that when he played for Celts guys would shoot like 80% in warmups and drills (he was including Bird et al.)

Game situation is a different beast. I am hoping that between our three pgs at least one of them improves enough so the defense won't sag off -- I'm not expecting them to morph into steph curry any time soon

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why is frank not joining him, who's actually a worse shooter?

maybe because he has bigger problems! And he knows his time here is limited.

CrushAlot wrote:

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why is frank not joining him, who's actually a worse shooter?

maybe because he has bigger problems! And he knows his time here is limited.

Frank was working out with Miller and Kadeem Allen. I don't think the Knicks are neglecting him.

He's obviously not a pure PG, and with DSJ, Payton, Trier, dotson, RJ, bullock, all better than him, where do you see him getting minutes, other than token minutes.

If Fiz comes to camp with the same silly erratic rotations, benching guys every other wk, expect the results to be the same

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why is frank not joining him, who's actually a worse shooter?

maybe because he has bigger problems! And he knows his time here is limited.

Frank was working out with Miller and Kadeem Allen. I don't think the Knicks are neglecting him.

Why do they continue to bring in point guard after point guard since he's been here?

He's obviously not a pure PG, and with DSJ, Payton, Trier, dotson, RJ, bullock, all better than him, where do you see him getting minutes, other than token minutes.

If Fiz comes to camp with the same silly erratic rotations, benching guys every other wk, expect the results to be the same

I am not sure what the plan is for Frank. I think if the Knicks got a trade offer they liked he would be moved. Not getting KD may keep Frank on the Knicks longer. I don't think the Knicks would have picked up his option for 20-21 if KD and another star were brought in. It doesn't appear that the Knicks will be competing for a championship in 20-21 so maybe they keep Frank a little longer. I do wonder if Frank or Dot are moved before camp. There are a lot of back court players. Dot would be the guy that is easy to move because of his salary and competent play.

there is no plan for Frank. He's kinda like a lotto ticket at this point. They didn't want to take a second for him or whatever but they should have. So now they're just gonna hope and pray that he gets his **** together or they'll just decline his PO. I said it when he got drafted, and got a lot of blow back from the usual rose colored glasses crowd, but he got drafted because eh measured well at the combine and people fell in love with his projections. He played about half the minuted of a NCAA prospect in France and he has never accomplished anything of note

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

franco12 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:why is frank not joining him, who's actually a worse shooter?

maybe because he has bigger problems! And he knows his time here is limited.

Frank was working out with Miller and Kadeem Allen. I don't think the Knicks are neglecting him.

Why do they continue to bring in point guard after point guard since he's been here?

He's obviously not a pure PG, and with DSJ, Payton, Trier, dotson, RJ, bullock, all better than him, where do you see him getting minutes, other than token minutes.

If Fiz comes to camp with the same silly erratic rotations, benching guys every other wk, expect the results to be the same

I am not sure what the plan is for Frank. I think if the Knicks got a trade offer they liked he would be moved. Not getting KD may keep Frank on the Knicks longer. I don't think the Knicks would have picked up his option for 20-21 if KD and another star were brought in. It doesn't appear that the Knicks will be competing for a championship in 20-21 so maybe they keep Frank a little longer. I do wonder if Frank or Dot are moved before camp. There are a lot of back court players. Dot would be the guy that is easy to move because of his salary and competent play.

From everything I have read over the last 6 months, Half of the front office/organization wants him gone, and the other half is on the fence. I can't understand why the hell they picked up his option of 5 mill other than to use in a possible off season trade for AD or some other star.