toodarkmark wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Biased journalism at its worst. Just more clickbait, to sell adds, to promote a certain brand of Knicks hate. We were a lock for 27!

Guess we might have to do something ridiculous like make the playoffs to stop the constant Knicks hate.

And when they don't make the playoffs in 20, 21, 22, will it still be "biased journalism?"

I thought we would be living like "The Jetsons" by 20, 21, 22. Seeing how things turned out, as Charlie Rich sang, I try to "Roll with the Flow". Dont come here to obsess on the worst case scenario. Dont sugarcoat the bad, and dont bury the good, to push a narrative.

Knicks arent capped out long term, lots of 1st and what look to be high second round picks. Some quality prospects to develop, evaluate. Until Perry/Mills have the chance to show what they can do with the assets they've amassed, Im good, absent flying cars.

toodarkmark wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Biased journalism at its worst. Just more clickbait, to sell adds, to promote a certain brand of Knicks hate. We were a lock for 27!

Guess we might have to do something ridiculous like make the playoffs to stop the constant Knicks hate.

And when they don't make the playoffs in 20, 21, 22, will it still be "biased journalism?"

And if we make the playoffs and lose in the first round, will you be posting the inevitable poll asking "Who of the deluded amongst you enjoyed wasting your time watching first round flameouts?"

Are you related is some way to Charles Barkley? Just wondering...

I just think with our signings - and development- assuming no wholesale injuries - we have to be looking at a 10 game improvement at least - 28-30. Bare minimum.

SO say after this off season that this team will only win a few more games than last year - is completely stupid.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/group/league

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

toodarkmark wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Biased journalism at its worst. Just more clickbait, to sell adds, to promote a certain brand of Knicks hate. We were a lock for 27!

Guess we might have to do something ridiculous like make the playoffs to stop the constant Knicks hate.

And when they don't make the playoffs in 20, 21, 22, will it still be "biased journalism?"

I thought we would be living like "The Jetsons" by 20, 21, 22. Seeing how things turned out, as Charlie Rich sang, I try to "Roll with the Flow". Dont come here to obsess on the worst case scenario. Dont sugarcoat the bad, and dont bury the good, to push a narrative.

Knicks arent capped out long term, lots of 1st and what look to be high second round picks. Some quality prospects to develop, evaluate. Until Perry/Mills have the chance to show what they can do with the assets they've amassed, Im good, absent flying cars.

Guess thats before IBM sold part of their business to what became Lenovo. Maybe they would of had better luck if they built some mfing flying cars!!! And where is the %&@#% HOJO in space we were promised???

None of the oddsmakers envision the Knicks reaching 30 victories.

Many of the Over/Under victory lines are trickling in for the 2019-20 season, and the Knicks aren’t viewed as playoff material.

Westgate SuperBook will release its figures Sunday and will have the Knicks’ Over/Under for wins at 28.5.

Three different online betting sites had the Knicks between 27.5 and 29.5 wins. Caesars has the Knicks opening at 27 wins..

https://nypost.com/2019/07/28/las-vegas-oddsmakers-dont-think-knicks-will-reach-30-wins/

franco12 wrote:28th is where cleveland finished last year- so I want to call BS on this - so looking back, the best finish in the last 10 years or so for the 28th team was 26 wins.

I just think with our signings - and development- assuming no wholesale injuries - we have to be looking at a 10 game improvement at least - 28-30. Bare minimum.

SO say after this off season that this team will only win a few more games than last year - is completely stupid.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/group/league

As Knicks fans, we hope for the best. We hope for the ideal situation.

Can the Knicks win 10 more games this year?

They'll need luck and help. As you mentioned, they'll need unprecedented health. Big men tend to have more injury problems than any other kind of player, so this can be a problem as the Knicks signed a bunch of bigs. They'll need a major breakout by Randle. They'll need injuries and attrition by other Eastern teams.

They'll need to overcome issues with defense and floor spacing. They'll need a reliable secondary scorer after Randle. They'll need to excel in transition and convert at an unprecedented rate with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock.

Payton and Randle having some previous rapport will help some. Morris is going to cost the Knicks a lot of ref calls. Gibson is going to run this team in the locker room and it remains to be seen if he can keep guys like Trier and DSJr in line. ( Actually get them to pass the damn ball...)

You can get "space" so you must try to get "pace" They are going to have to try to run the other teams off the floor.

A lot will ride on Randle being the primary scorer and his ability to be consistent even with other teams bracketing him defensively in their game plans.

To get those 10 games, the Knicks will need like 15 individual things that are unlikely to go their way. It's not impossible, but it's resting more on hope than anything else.

TripleThreat wrote:

franco12 wrote:28th is where cleveland finished last year- so I want to call BS on this - so looking back, the best finish in the last 10 years or so for the 28th team was 26 wins.

I just think with our signings - and development- assuming no wholesale injuries - we have to be looking at a 10 game improvement at least - 28-30. Bare minimum.

SO say after this off season that this team will only win a few more games than last year - is completely stupid.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/group/league

As Knicks fans, we hope for the best. We hope for the ideal situation.

Can the Knicks win 10 more games this year?

They'll need luck and help. As you mentioned, they'll need unprecedented health. Big men tend to have more injury problems than any other kind of player, so this can be a problem as the Knicks signed a bunch of bigs. They'll need a major breakout by Randle. They'll need injuries and attrition by other Eastern teams.

They'll need to overcome issues with defense and floor spacing. They'll need a reliable secondary scorer after Randle. They'll need to excel in transition and convert at an unprecedented rate with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock.

Payton and Randle having some previous rapport will help some. Morris is going to cost the Knicks a lot of ref calls. Gibson is going to run this team in the locker room and it remains to be seen if he can keep guys like Trier and DSJr in line. ( Actually get them to pass the damn ball...)

You can get "space" so you must try to get "pace" They are going to have to try to run the other teams off the floor.

A lot will ride on Randle being the primary scorer and his ability to be consistent even with other teams bracketing him defensively in their game plans.

To get those 10 games, the Knicks will need like 15 individual things that are unlikely to go their way. It's not impossible, but it's resting more on hope than anything else.