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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
7/10/2019 12:32 PM
martin wrote:Vmart wrote:misterearl wrote:Vmart wrote:The stem of the problem is not the young players but your coach and NYK developmental staff. The players really need to get wise if they want to succeed in the NBA. You absolutely should avoid the NYK development staff.
Knox went from Rookie of the month in december, to only making the rookie all star game by default in feb and didn't make a single NBA rookie team by april. Is that consider progress? ES
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martin
Posts: 68542 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
7/10/2019 12:36 PM
knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:misterearl wrote:Vmart wrote:The stem of the problem is not the young players but your coach and NYK developmental staff. The players really need to get wise if they want to succeed in the NBA. You absolutely should avoid the NYK development staff. You are trying to convince me that KP regressed? Dude, there is a low IQ limit for these here parts and you are streaking right towards it. May have passed it a long time ago cause I really don't pay too much attention to your blather. Come on bro, walk back to reality Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/10/2019 12:38 PM
Vmart wrote:I don't agree with any of this but I am going to push back on alienation of anything that is not theirs. Guys left from Phil's reign of terror are Dot, Frank and possibly Lance. Dot spent most of his first year developing in Westchester and last year was a rotation player that showed mid to low end 3 and d potential despite playing the year with a torn labrum. Second round pick developed in g league becomes rotation player. That just doesn't fit your narrative. Lance was the team captain last year despite having limited abilities and reports are out there that the Knicks will bring him back if they have a roster spot. I don't see anyway Lance gets minutes on this year's team but management still would like to bring him back. Again this doesn't fit with your narrative. Perry came in after Frank was drafted. My guess is Frank would not have been his pick. However, Perry brought in a mentor point guard in Jack and Frank received 21 minutes a night playing the point no matter what. Frank did not play well and reports were out there that he had become tired from the minutes he was playing late in January. At some point during Frank's struggles, management realized he was not going to be a starting caliber point guard in the nba in the near future if ever. Mudiay and Burke were brought in to try to fill the need for a young, starting caliber point. The next year Frank was moved off the ball and labeled a versatile guy that could play multiple positions. Injuries and poor play made last season pretty disappointing. But injuries and poor play don't equal management alienating a player. Frank has not been very good in the nba. He has not come close to producing what the 8th pick in a draft should. If I talk nba with any of my friends that are not Knick fans they consider Frank a bust. I don't think the front office is there yet but Frank needs to show something. Alienating a player would not include having him workout with Mike Miller over the summer.misterearl wrote:Vmart wrote:The stem of the problem is not the young players but your coach and NYK developmental staff. The players really need to get wise if they want to succeed in the NBA. You absolutely should avoid the NYK development staff. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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fishmike
Posts: 53117 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/10/2019 12:40 PM
martin wrote:Vmart wrote:misterearl wrote:Vmart wrote:The stem of the problem is not the young players but your coach and NYK developmental staff. The players really need to get wise if they want to succeed in the NBA. You absolutely should avoid the NYK development staff. Its VMart... he's recycling his last couple decades of misery. Knicks have big problems. IS the FO addressing them? We are devoid of high end talent. So they tanked last year for a high pick. I mean we can cry about Mill's role in all of this. Perry has replaced Phil. What did he inherit? What is the plan? What has he said? Has he followed through on what he's said? Vmart didnt think we should sign Randle for $20mm+ when Luke Kornet is out there for 1/10th of the price. I guess you either give the new guy a couple years or you dont and decide to hold him accountable for the last guy how sat at the desk. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
7/10/2019 12:42 PM
martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:Vmart wrote:misterearl wrote:Vmart wrote:The stem of the problem is not the young players but your coach and NYK developmental staff. The players really need to get wise if they want to succeed in the NBA. You absolutely should avoid the NYK development staff. I didn't make it up, I looked at his numbers, his shooting pct took a NOSE dive his last season with us, obviously his points when up, but he took hella more shots... We all said he couldn't make it through a season without gasping for air by december every yr he was here, and his assist #s were brutal.. Where did you see progress? ES
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