knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:This is actual yr 3, Frank was drafted 2 yrs ago when THJ was signed, willy was coming into his 2nd yr, and Mills took over..
Over these 2-3 years have added Frank, Dotson, Knox, Robinson, Trier, Smith, Barrett, Randle, Portis. Will have 5 picks over the next 7 yrs. Will have 50mil in cap again just next offseason. Some players will stick, some players will be moved. A core will be formed, pieces will be added and upgraded steadily. With flexibility to make a splash when one presents itself.
and every season we are signing or drafting the same position because the one we had awas not cutting it..
we have been trying to find a replacement for frank since he got here, and RJ & trier play the same position as dotson..
Bringing in young talent looking for gems and low risk guys to who have a shot at putting it together is the normal process of a team that's rebuilding. RJ Barrett was the best talent available for our pick who also wanted to be here. They didn't draft him specifically because they felt they needed to replace Dotson and Trier who were 2nd round draft pick and an UDFA who have out performed the value given to get them. The superior talent will win out, that's the business. Sad I even have to explain that.
GSW had Monta Ellis as one of their better players. They then proceeded to draft Curry and Klay then eventually traded Ellis for Bogut. They had Biedrins when they traded for Bogut who they packaged his expiring with future draft picks for Iggy in a 4 team deal.
Knicks will keep looking for young upgrades that make sense any way they can get it with the flexibility they have until a core is formed and they have enough talent in place to compete.
Can't depend on the shortcuts. Have to depend on the grind.
He doesn't believe in drafting or youth unless we trade them for veterans lol. He rather go back to the previous regimes who wouldjust throw way every asset for bloated contracts who did nothing. I know some bring up the 50 win season which was fun BUT lets be honest that team was very old and dead by the end of the regular season. We nearly blew a 3-0 series leads against a old and injury depleted Boston them then Indiana kicked our ass. We are finally doing things the right way. We are keeping our assets, developing our kids, bringing in some solid pieces on short etrm deal who will help but also we wont be stuck with 3-4 years down the road.
You keep saying that to make what kind of a point?
I never ever ever said that, so let me make this clear for the very last time..You can't solely build through the draft, you can't only rely on youth to change your culture..
That will give you 17 wins, disgruntled players, and constant change...are you paying attn or are you in denial
You hope to build something like san an or GSW, the difference is, san had 1 lottery pick(duncan) in the last 20+ yrs, and the GSW had 2, and they didn't need to wait 8 yrs after to win it.
we have had 4 lottery pick in 5 yrs and are no closer to a championship then we were without them..lol..after that sinks in..take a look at the last 10 NBA championships and tell me how many of the key players on those roster were drafted by that team..
You speak in broad terms, and in a vacuum. You have to speak towards the Knicks specific situation.
Our franchise player tore his ACL. Knicks look at the coming season differently if KP was healthy playing at his all star form. Knicks tanked hoping to secure a generatonal talent in Zion with KP out for the season going in. Because generational talents are the ones winning the championships. With KP out, was the best way to attempt to land another generational guy to pair with him. Knicks adapted to the situation knowing that KP was gonna be out for the season. Knicks then again adapted once KP decided he wanted to be traded.
Knicks also were looking to preserve cap before they had to pay KP an extention so they can put some high end talent together with him. So they were limited in what they could do the season before in terms of adding salaries.
Knicks have collected enough prospects to fall back on in Smith, Barrett, Knox, Mitch, Trier, Dotson, Frank that they can make moves without sacrificing the future. They have enough cap flexibility to make moves to improve the roster if anything presents itself. They have enough future first to make moves without sacrificing the future.
Knicks have put themselves in position to be aggressive when something becomes available. They have adapted to the circumstances of their specific situation. And when they are able to add these pieces it will be due to the ground work they built which you have been complaining about all this time.
Just remember
Step one: They built through the draft
Step two: They added FA like 21-8-4 Randle
Step three: They use some of the assets they collected to package for a priemer talent
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