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CrushAlot
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7/2/2019 11:09 AM
Article on Payton from last year. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thebirdwrites.com/platform/amp/2019/1/11/18177337/elfrid-payton-new-orleans-pelicans-anthony-davis-jrue-holiday-best-nba-lineup-rajon-rondo
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Knicksfan
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7/2/2019 11:16 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Saw this in an article about Peyton yesterday.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Intriguing. He might be the purest PG we have right now. I'm still rooting for Smith Jr. to earn the starting nod because this guy has all the potential to be a star, but we'll see if at the end of the day we prove to be better with a guy like him starting. The benefit of the role players signed is that they will all push the expected starters to either put up or shut up. Knicks_Fan
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33767 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
7/2/2019 11:21 AM
Knicksfan wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Saw this in an article about Peyton yesterday.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I think he is the least exciting yet most exciting PG (wtf does that even mean) we have. I am more excited about the ceilings of DSJ and Frank, but I don't think either will get there. I think Peyton will end up being the most complete of the three and I'll settle for that. Right now we need to hope this year's and last year's picks can hit their shots and everyone else needs to facilitate that. So, I am more interested in Payton than I am in DSJ, and way more interested than Frank Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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Chandler
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7/2/2019 11:26 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:Knicksfan wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Saw this in an article about Peyton yesterday.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Sheesh NOLA must be so stupid to let him walk for 8MM per on a 2 year deal. (5)(5)
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CrushAlot
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7/2/2019 11:29 AM
Chandler wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Knicksfan wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Saw this in an article about Peyton yesterday.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Not sure but I think they might be changing some things up there. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Chandler
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7/2/2019 11:33 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Chandler wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Knicksfan wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Saw this in an article about Peyton yesterday.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: meaning they didn't like the 88% win rate? Hey I'm glad he cut his hair but it won't be long before we see the teams sagging off of him and we'll be screaming (5)(5)
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33767 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
7/2/2019 12:13 PM
Chandler wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Knicksfan wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Saw this in an article about Peyton yesterday.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm not saying that... what I am really saying is Frank sucks at the point and can't shoot, and DSJ was pretty disappointing. I think NOLA definitely made the right choice considering they have Ball, Alexander-Walker, and Jrue Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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Allanfan20
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7/2/2019 12:15 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Defensive player of the year in college......... I have said a million times that is problem and not some awesome thing. As of now, he sucks. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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knicks1248
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7/2/2019 1:03 PM
Vmart wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Defensive player of the year in college......... The key word is SYSTEM, something FIZDALE does not have and will never have. Fizdale cares about playing fast, playing free, shooting 3's and moving the ball. That is 100% not the way Frank was taught to play the game by any stretch. ES
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smackeddog
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7/2/2019 1:06 PM
I do like this signing- always seen him as a potential Rondo, so wasn't surprised at him wracking up the triple doubles last season. I like how both he and RJ are good rebounders for guards, don't like that they can't shoot. DSJ makes more sense off the bench to me.
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CleaverGreene
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7/2/2019 1:24 PM
Vmart wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Defensive player of the year in college......... Always amazes me that people don't understand the role confidence plays in how a player performs, especially when the players are in the NBA at 18 & 19 years old. I think we have at least 3 people this year who have to be monitored- Frank, Smith, and now Knox. Smith and Knox have to wonder where the Knicks are going. I assume Payton was brought in to start, and the Knicks have a bunch of players who can fill in at SF, and Knox is now shut out from playing PF, where I think he belongs, because of Randle and Portis. I have no idea how Fizdale deals with young players. I know you posted an article about how he dealt with guys in Memphis (Mark Gasol now has his U.S. title, along with his European ones, by the way- wonder if MG shoves that in his face when he sees him next.) Can Fizdale develop young players and put them in a position to succeed? I'm really interested to see what kind of offensive "system" Fizdale attempts to install. I thought Knox was lost last year at times, and I blame Fiz for that. We will see if "positionless" really means "no system, do what you want," or will we see some kind of organization on the court? Maybe we will get a taste of what he might want from what we see in SL. I just hope it isn't another iso-summer like last year. There are three classes of men; lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of gain. (Plato)
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CrushAlot
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7/2/2019 2:29 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Lets pretend he killed it when he played for Jeff. Probably the only guy that made me want to see Jarrett Jack on the court. He’s not a point guard. He can’t be the best guard on the team if he has no offens and puts no pressure on the defense. He was picked too high by a guy that shouldn’t have mad the pick.Vmart wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:Defensive player of the year in college......... I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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PresIke
Posts: 27640 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
7/3/2019 2:11 PM LAST EDITED: 7/3/2019 2:22 PM
One thing that MIGHT help is that Peyton and Randle appear to play well together, at least from highlights.
Curious what the data says...just seeing some on 82games now... So, for NO their best 5 man unit included Peyton and Randle and 3 of their best 5 man unit included Peyton and Randle together. This may mean little as a big variable is AD was in all of them, and but Holiday was not included in one of those 3. Peyton also has a negative net rating, but his passing rating stands out (17.3) even higher than Holiday's (15.1) and is more than 6 points higher than our best player, DJS (11.7), which sounds woefully low (Mudiay's was 7.7, for perspective on our oft starting PG, and our "great vision" hero Frank, 8.5). He could be the biggest sleeper of those that we've signed based on all of this and should be an improvement as we were a team full of black holes. Randle also moves the ball well and can handle it for a big which should in theory help. Vonleh could handle the rock, sure but was not a passer at all. I think he has a great chance of starting. His shooting is the biggest concern, but Ellington gives us some improvement there, and clearly that's why we've signed him. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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PresIke
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7/3/2019 2:13 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Article on Payton from last year. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thebirdwrites.com/platform/amp/2019/1/11/18177337/elfrid-payton-new-orleans-pelicans-anthony-davis-jrue-holiday-best-nba-lineup-rajon-rondo Interesting find! I was by chance just looking into that as I was curious bc of what I saw in some of his highlights with Randle. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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smackeddog
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7/4/2019 4:01 AM LAST EDITED: 7/4/2019 4:12 AM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Unfortunately for the New York Knicks, this offseason hasn’t gone exactly as planned. They failed to win the Zion Williamson sweepstakes and missed on big-name free agents including Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, who signed with the Knicks’ crosstown rivals (adding insult to injury). |
Knicksfan
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7/4/2019 6:57 AM
smackeddog wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: That was a very interesting read. Thanks! I love that part about embodying the city as a group of grinders and hard workers. I think we fans miss that from the Ewing days up to the Spree, Houston and Camby period. And that is something that, albeit a little contained, but gives me hope about this team. The talent is there on the youth and the veterans. The hunger is there on our young players and the experience to help them is there on the veterans. It would be very exciting to have this bunch of grinders pull off a playoff berth and I’ll be rooting for that. Knicks_Fan
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Chandler
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7/4/2019 8:01 AM
^ nice quotes
Now that he’s on the team I’ll root for him Still very skeptical about his shot and his fit. Fizz prove me wrong (5)(5)
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