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Nalod
Posts: 68614 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/10/2019 12:31 PM
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. We not only saw the movie, we have to sit with you in the movie theatre. Over and over saying the same thing about why you don't like the movie, and telling all around you why they bother? If we are 10-20 for the season, you think the team should stand pat for stability sake? Or fire everyone which means start over? |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27186 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
10/10/2019 12:42 PM
Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. First step is always DENIAL. Reason why Ewingglass's analogy is so on. So many continue to stick their heads in the sand and claim its never the Knicks dysfunctional leadership but rather everyone else sucks or is malcontent. I guess everyone that comes out and states the organization is dysfunctional is crazy. That's cool. The facts are that NO ONE has want to come here despite cap flexibility and the Knicks illustrious history. Why? Fact is we were the laughing stock of the league for the last 15 years? Why? Look I get the whole lets **** on KP and hope he breaks a leg so we feel better about losing a franchise draft pick we could have built around, but to me, that is just childish and ignorant. Think the true Knick will always root for their team but they also realize that this will never turn itself around without the right leadership. And we have not had that in quite some time. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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HofstraBBall
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10/10/2019 12:42 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote: You wanna bet? 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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Marv
Posts: 35540 Alba Posts: 69 Joined: 9/2/2002 Member: #315 |
10/10/2019 12:47 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. it's funny to me that guys are saying this stuff NOW when we're doing an actual rebuild with fiscal sanity, holding onto draft picks, bringing in good young players and resisting the star-P fools gold. |
HofstraBBall
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10/10/2019 12:49 PM LAST EDITED: 10/10/2019 4:52 PM
Marv wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. Does the Universe you live in think the Knicks organization has done a good job prior to last year? Or that they have not been dysfunctional for many years now? I keep saying things are getting better but anyone that keeps ignoring that the entire NBA, basketball community, FA players have been hinting the Knicks are a **** show, have their heads in the sand and are the the ones living in an alternate universes. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
10/10/2019 12:51 PM
Marv wrote:Good Post. Knicks are doing things the right way despite what the critics sayHofstraBBall wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. |
jskinny35
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10/10/2019 12:51 PM
It didn't work out... regardless of our poor history with star players, it just didn't. Whether our past played a part or not - it doesn't change that we need to focus on ourselves and getting the team better. Maybe KP is a jerk or maybe he wasn't, or maybe a combination involving our FO. Either way, if we focus on KP and his future, we aren't giving our team 100% and we clearly need that. I hope the FO continues to answer questions by saying, "we wish KP the best and are focused on rebuilding the Knicks."
Spurs organization historically tries to avoid drama, usually takes the high road and is regarded as a mature and stable organization that many want to play for. The Knicks in contrast are avoided, joked about and disregarded by the great players. Maybe we need to grow up and it starts with us fans showing some maturity. I get it stings but we have a loser, cynical mentality that may have been well-deserved through the years - the FO is trying to change and present a new image - we can't stay stuck in the past/old image or change will take longer... |
knicks1248
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10/10/2019 12:53 PM
Nalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. I keep repeating the same thing..smdh..lol I'm sorry is this the first time we had a fck KP thread..again, and again, and again.. same thing with melo, frank, Amare.. You want me say nice things about our F/O..tell you how much I support the tanking and losing..smh I wish KP all the luck in the world and much success..do ya thing big bro ES
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37494 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
10/10/2019 12:56 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote: That's not an outlandish take. I think the Warriors, Spurs, Trailblazers, Mavs and Kings will push for those final playoff spots. Plus, KP is inury prone. I think the Mavs just want to jell and build this year. I think the playoffs should be gravy for them. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27186 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
10/10/2019 12:56 PM
Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. Thought we were debating KP and the bad leadership in the past? I like what is going on thus far. Think we still have some time before the damage done in the last 10 years gets shaken out. Don't have any expectations that Mills and Dolan can do it though. But hoping, as always, that I get pleasantly surprised. Not as bleak or negative as Knicks1234 but definately not sticking my head in the sand as to what needs to take place before we can become great again. And IMO its the leadership that always seems to be the issue no matter how many fans want to make it about a player or two. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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newyorknewyork
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10/10/2019 12:59 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote: Sure With the roster they currently have constructed they don't have enough in the West. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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StarksEwing1
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10/10/2019 1:00 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:ThisHofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote: |
knicks1248
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10/10/2019 1:10 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:ThisHofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote: Laker After that the door is open for the 2 spots and maybe they dump THJ, Lee, and another contract for CP3.. ES
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Chandler
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10/10/2019 1:30 PM
One thing to keep in mind: Yes KP was getting tired and injured, but we also knew he was a toothpick and needed to build core strength and fitness. He not the first young player to have this issue
A good organization would have been patient, nurtured the relationship, developed his game, and realized his potential to be a top 5 player who plays on both sides of the court (no guarantees that will happen but better odds than most). Instead we wanted an instant savior. Understandable given our history of losing and his tantalizing potential. Unfortunately these things take time. Even LBJ and Giannis needed time. Harden was a 6th man... (Shaq is probably the last to simply explode on the scene day one -- but haven't checked the stats) Things went horribly bad and IMO both sides had some very questionable moves. KP relying on his brothers guidance, and thinking Melo was a mentor (yes the guy who both the Thunder and Rockets dumped, apparently because he is selfish, cancerous). Our FO for really mishandling the relationship, not knowing his status, taking his love of NY for granted etc., not even attempting to play a winning style of basketball, zig-zagging on team philosophy In any event, time will tell. The end of this season or next actual performance will tell whether KP or our FO/CS is the Bozo! (5)(5)
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BigDaddyG
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10/10/2019 1:46 PM
That cap flexibility don't seems so bad now.
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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jskinny35
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10/10/2019 2:02 PM
Chandler wrote:One thing to keep in mind: Yes KP was getting tired and injured, but we also knew he was a toothpick and needed to build core strength and fitness. He not the first young player to have this issue We have to start fresh so our expectations don't create unneeded pressure to the organization to make crazy trades and not show patience with young players. We need to ask ourselves why can other markets do it but not us? It seems all self-imposed pressure to me, but curious if others see it differently? |
Nalod
Posts: 68614 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/10/2019 2:25 PM
knicks1248 wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:ThisHofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote:
Out west I go: Rockets Blazers should be on this list. |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27186 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
10/10/2019 2:27 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Gudris wrote: Possibly. I see a potential for them replacing the Thunder, Spurs or Utah from last year. That is, if KP stays healthy. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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Knixkik
Posts: 34890 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
10/10/2019 2:44 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Marv wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Feels like we are dissing our ex-girlfriends. Kristy got me pretty excited, but she was always hobbling everywhere. I could have been happy with Kristy, but she was looking for something more permanent and I didn't want to commit. I am sure someone will make her very happy. Her sister Janis did nothing for me. Kind of showed up saying stupid stuff. Was clear she was in over her head. But Kristy was always listening to her. Remember that time Kristy left for two months and didn't say goodbye? Pretty sure that was Janis' idea. You don't treat people like that. But, you can't make a girl leave her sister. Sure, she looks happy with Mark right now. Just wait until Janis starts whispering in Kristy's ear again. I believe the main reason KP wanted out is because the Knicks did not want involvement in his sexual assault allegations. The accuser reached out to have the Knicks intervene and the knicks referred her to KP's personal representation. Around that time KP distanced himself from the team (but well before the story came out) and it became apparent that the Knicks were not going to support KP and began seeing him as more trouble than he's worth. The trust was broken on both sides, and that was the end. |