Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:PresIke wrote:I don't see anyone signing KD being a smart idea. It's like flipping a coin to me. Willing to bet hundreds of millions on that? NBA teams like us are because the superstar value is so insane.That's why the Lakers gave up the farm and the front porch. Miami/Riley obliterated everyone years ago to create a super team in one summer.
The outlook is much bleaker now for us. It's pretty much Lebron's decision part 2 right now, IMHO.
Last time we went for Amare. This time...different, I expect, but still a blow that might lead to success later, but might not as I don't see any clear superstars coming now.
Agree. This summer is going to be a test of wether or not Mills walks it like he talks it. In too many interviews to count, he has tried to portray himself as an innocent bystsnder as the Knicks make one costly mistake after another. Like signing Amar'e knowing he couldnt even get insurance.
If Mills pushes for signing KD, knowing his age and the severity of his injury. He will have a real hard time saying that again. One of the most important things I believe Perry has brought to this franchise is patience. As long as the Knicks continue to show it, I believe it will pay off. Boston might not be there yet, but they're still in the hunt because they're patient.
Let me play devil's advocate....The Celtics were further along than the Raptors, but the Raptors gambled and it paid off. They jumped over the celts and won a chip.
The celtics had an opportunity to trade for Kawhi but patient Ainge refused, and perhaps lost out on a chip. His best player is about to walk for nothing in return..a player he gave up a pick for that turned into Sexton, a pg they desperately need right now. Ainge used his cap space on a healthy Hayward who had a horrible injury that perhaps altered his career. Signing anyone, healthy or not, is a gamble.
Cap space is only as good as the players you use it on. So, if we dont sign KD, do we use our space to over pay Kemba and Tobias Harris and fight for 7 and 8 seeds over the next 3 yrs? Do we hold onto it and just sign another batch of retreads to a series of 1 yr deals and wait for Giannis to turn us down? That's a gamble too.
Perry and Mills have some interesting decisions to make but we cant keep spinning our wheels. 2 more years of having the worse record in the league and picking 3rd or 4th will cost people their jobs. Remember, this is also a business. Not signing KD is a gamble because what if he signs with the nets and he returns to form or at least very close to it like Wilkins did? Imagine the headlines in NY?! Its a gamble either way, we just have to hope we roll 7s
Believe you have articulated the Knicks philosophy in the Dolan era. We absolutely have to make a deal ASAP. Thats what has kept the Knicks in the cellar. You never did really say who you are talking about.
KD? In a year or so? When he is 32 and hope he is close to the player be used to be? Kyrie, who has shown he is not a leader and will put himself above his teammates?
Before McDyess was brought to NY, he was recovering from a serious knee injury. Sometimes you can see bad deals a mile away, sometimes deals dont work out because of unforseen circumstances. Doesnt mean you dont think twice about deals that look bad from a mile away. Kyrie, after his last playoff run (his injury history), KD after a catastrophic injury looks like a bad idea from a mile away. Its still safer to gamble on healthy players, than injured ones.
As for Boston. They have been patiently stockpiling draft picks, you havent seen them empty the team of draft picks, young talent, for stars past their prime. Have they been pitch perfect? Of course not. By not making the same mistakes the Knicks have, by being patient, they can still field a competitive team without big stars, and have the room to sign them when the time comes.
They can afford to miss with that strategy. Your suggesting we go all in on players who are a big risk of either chemistry problems (Kyrie) or never returning to peak performance (KD) A strategy like that has very little margin for error.
Perry/Mills have no reason to max out players for fear of missing out. Thats what is going to send us back to the days when we're all counting down when these contracts expire.
Ujiri wanted to trade Lowry well before they won a ring. If he had, things might have been different. If he had made a trade for another star, instead of Kawhi, would it have worked? Doubt it.
Ujiri didnt see a deal he for Lowry he liked, after the one in place with the Knicks fell apart. He was patient. We sign Kyrie/KD at this stage in their careers, knowing what we do now. Perry would be making the mistake IMO that Ujiri didnt. Its smart to be bold sometimes. Going by the current state of the FA market, that time isnt now.
6/16/2019 2:32 PM