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Allanfan20
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5/24/2019 12:19 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Real good analysis on RJ by a former NBA scout. This guy thinks Culver is a better prospect, an opinion I don't share. But he points out a lot strengths and weaknesses in Barrett's game. Good video. If he can correct some of those footwork flaws, he’ll be fine. Him being bad with his right is concerning though. If he dedicates this whole Summer to working on his left and obviously his shot mechanics, he’ll be in decent shape. He has a ton of potential. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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smackeddog
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5/24/2019 4:04 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Real good analysis on RJ by a former NBA scout. This guy thinks Culver is a better prospect, an opinion I don't share. But he points out a lot strengths and weaknesses in Barrett's game. I agree. Look at how Trier developed using his off hand as the season went on- a lot of RJ critics act like he's a five year vet, he's 18 with a great work ethic, and I don't think any of his flaws aren't fixable with work. |
Uptown
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5/24/2019 8:10 AM
smackeddog wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Real good analysis on RJ by a former NBA scout. This guy thinks Culver is a better prospect, an opinion I don't share. But he points out a lot strengths and weaknesses in Barrett's game. I find it funny how most scouts emphasize the fact most lefty's struggle going right, and hardly ever point out how most righty's struggle going left! Like you said, he's young, plenty of time to develop his right....I'm in the ATL and caught some Hawks games and Trae Young is ALL Right and put up crazy numbers the second half of the year! James Harden is all left as well (he's improved his right hand some over the years) and was the MVP last year....With proper training, RJ will be all right |
technomaster
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5/24/2019 9:36 AM
I suppose what needs to be pointed out with the Culver comparisons is that Culver is ~1.5 years older than Barrett and just finished his sophomore year.
Culver was more polished at some specific things THIS SEASON, but an NBA talent evaluator for the draft would think - geez, look at how much guys like Culver and Morant improved over the course of 1 summer and really nailed it in their sophomore years. You'd project that Barrett would spend this summer working on his game. With his "life" pedigree and noted work ethic, you'd expect him to be better. If he returned for year 2 at Duke, you'd expect more efficiency and higher scoring, improved FT%, refined attack skills, more polished right hand, improved 3pt range. I would also say that while RJ Barrett was a high usage player, he handled it pretty well. His game was on full display. There's no hiding when you get the ball in your hands that much. No benefit of the doubt (ie like Nassir Little or Cam Reddish). Most freshmen can't do what he did. Anyway, the only reason not to get excited about Barrett is the looming idea that the Knicks would trade him right away. So... I'm not going to get too vested in him as a Knick. “That was two, two from the heart.” - John Starks
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SupremeCommander
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5/24/2019 9:55 AM
if the Knicks take ****ing Culver over RJ I will explode. I know Culver looked great, especially in the tourney... but I mean I read that that dude would rather Culver? STFU man. That dude was an NBA scout? I won't watch the video but how did he defend the FACT that Culver looked like a 3 star recruit the further into the tourney he got?
UVA - 22.7 FG%, 0 3P% yeah he played great against Michigan and before that. But I mean I see a guy that will get dominated by the size and strength and speed of the NBA. I think that YouTube scout is a former NBA scout for a reason. Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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TheGame
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5/24/2019 10:33 AM
I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end.
Trust the Process
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smackeddog
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5/24/2019 11:51 AM
TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. My only worry is that the three of them together- DSJ, Knox and RJ- are all pretty inefficient players and not great shooters. Hopefully they all improve over summer |
Knixkik
Posts: 34890 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
5/24/2019 12:32 PM
smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. Knox will improve just with a role change. He should be more of a spot up shooter. He will improve. I wouldn't count on Smith improving much as a shooter though. He would need a complete reinvention of his jumper. |
GodSaveTheKnicks
Posts: 23950 Alba Posts: 21 Joined: 11/21/2006 Member: #1207 USA |
5/24/2019 1:30 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:jskinny35 wrote:I get that he struggled with his outside shooting percentage his Freshman year at Duke but... is there something else I'm missing about his game and/or flaws? He seems fluid/smooth, polished and appears mature/coachable. Also,he did step up a bit when Zion was out. I've heard comps to Derozan (although not as athletic) and he seems to have an NBA-ready body. Please let me know why we don't have a potential NBA stud that just needs a year or two to find his way... There is a chance (however tiny) that in 5 years, RJ is a better pro than Zion. I think it all really depends on whether they continue to improve their jumpers. If Zion never learns to shoot and RJ becomes a stepback assassin... Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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NYKBocker
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5/24/2019 2:25 PM
Knixkik wrote:smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. I agree about Knox. His shot will get better and I think this is all connected to his strength and conditioning. DSJr is a little tougher. Actually though, I want Frank to get his shot more consistent. His defensive presence is the perfect compliment for RJ and Mitch. Imagine those 3 creating havoc? Now add KD and Knox....that is a long lineup. |
SupremeCommander
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5/24/2019 2:29 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Knixkik wrote:smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. I think DSJ is pretty straight forward. He's clearly gotten to this point relying on athleticism. That isn't as much of an advantage in the NBA. Either he develops his fundamentals or he doesn't. I think it's that simple Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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Knixkik
Posts: 34890 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
5/24/2019 2:41 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Knixkik wrote:smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. DSjr is tough i agree. I think he's better suited for a 6th man role down the line. we need a better shooter/facilitator at PG. If Barrett eventually develops into a lead playmaker, you need more of a Patrick Beverley at the PG. That's if you don't get a Kyrie/Kemba of course. Either way, Smith needs the ball in his hands and needs to be let loose. Guys like Schroder, Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson, D Rose, etc are better suited for 6th man roles and i think Smith fits that mold. |
BigDaddyG
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5/24/2019 2:57 PM
Knixkik wrote:NYKBocker wrote:Knixkik wrote:smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. One of the strengths of RJ listed in the video I posted is his passing out of the pick and roll. I'm not sure he can be a full-time initiator, but I think he can do it for stretches. The junpshot needs to improve. He also needs to develop counter moves with his right hand. Defenses are too sophisticated for him to be so left hand dominant. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
5/24/2019 3:12 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:NYKBocker wrote:Knixkik wrote:smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. Hard to find players who dont have some part of their game that needs work early on. Its about how much work is needed. Here is an article from this season in Dallas. Before his back problems kicked in, I guess. Smith hasnt played like Rose did in NY, stat padding, freezing out players. Has floor general qualities which sometimes seem to be overwhelmed by a lack of maturity. Guessing DSJr knows his career is at a crossroads. Enough incentive for him to come back ready to ball. https://fansided.com/2019/01/18/dennis-smith-jr-trade-improvement/amp/ Actually, Smith’s been having a pretty good season. One big area of improvement for him has been his accuracy from beyond the arc; at this point his 3-point percentage has improved by about six percentage points compared to last season, making his game much more versatile. |
CrushAlot
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5/24/2019 10:27 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Good find. Always surprised how quick some are to give up on DSJ but are so patient with Frank despite his struggles to learn the point. Smith may be sent out in a deal for AD, Beal etc. but I would love to see him healthy and with a training camp under his belt playing for the Knicks.SupremeCommander wrote:NYKBocker wrote:Knixkik wrote:smackeddog wrote:TheGame wrote:I am very excited about Barrett. I would have been happy with any of the top 3, but Barrett will provide us with a SG who can drive and pass, which takes pressure off of Smith to have to run the offense all the time. If Smith can improve his outside shooting (Barrett needs to improve to), we would have pretty potent backcourt from the stand point of being super athletic with strong scoring instincts. Barrett is going to instantly be the best player on our team at the offensive end. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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