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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
3/21/2019 10:30 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. Frank played mostly off the ball in Europe. He missed the summer league so he already was behind. His coach reported that Frank was tired with the minutes he was getting last year in late January/early February Frank’s scouting report from draftexpress said he would benefit from time in the g league getting time playing the point. Frank got minutes his rookie year no matter what. In regards to Knox, it is a different coaching staff. The goal was never the playoffs with KP out, and Knox did have a very good summer league and won Roy of the month in December. Knox has been given his minutes no matter how he played. He might benefit from some time with the g league staff but I think his situation is different. . I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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martin
Posts: 68648 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
3/21/2019 11:04 AM
CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. No doubt that each player should be brought along individually, and what is good for one may not fit that other. Odd to me that the way the coaching staff has handled Robinson vs Knox. Almost completely opposite. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29860 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
3/21/2019 11:44 AM
GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. You believe Knox has shown enough as a prospect and Frank hasn't. I don't believe either of them have shown enough as prospects. We will also have e to agree to disagree that Knox has shown more than Frank. He has only shown more in willingness to take more shots. Even if it's ducking his head down and driving into multiple defenders without any real plan or craft to get the shot off. Knox's defense may be just as raw as Frank's offense with Frank showing more flashes offensively than Knox defensively. While Knox offense to be generous is similar level to Frank's defense in terms of effectiveness. But would be willing to give both of them their rookie deals to show enough. And if deals that make sense come along that needs us to trade either of them then so be it. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33785 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
3/21/2019 11:57 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. Agree to disagree? No way man. Knox is a shooter that shoots 36 percent. I've watched enough one dimensional shooters to know that is complete and utter trash. I think Frank's defensive abilities are overstated but I mean at least he offers that to go with 35.6% Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37533 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
3/21/2019 12:17 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. Yep. Knox has been historically bad on offense. I don't think people have realized how bad Knox shooting has been this season. The only real difference between Knox and Frank's rookie shooting percentages is that Knox keeps shooting right now. Knox and Frank suck right now. So does DSJ to a lesser extent. My point is it's too early to close the door on any of their careers. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
3/21/2019 12:51 PM
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. How so? I think if mitch wasn't foul prone, he would get just as many minutes as Knox. ES
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martin
Posts: 68648 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
3/21/2019 1:01 PM
knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. you just listed 1 item of many. Knox does get a ton of minutes versus Mitch (regardless of foul trouble, otherwise Mitch would play til he fouled out, give or take. 3.3 fouls in 20 minutes versus 2.4 in 28 minutes). One is getting a steady diet of 20 minutes, the other plays a lot more (for a rookie). One comes off the bench, one does not. One plays within himself, one seems to have the green light to do whatever. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
Posts: 68648 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
3/21/2019 1:02 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. I'm confused .. you just agreed with newyorknewyork but agreed to disagree. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
3/21/2019 1:51 PM LAST EDITED: 3/21/2019 1:53 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd.
Its been really ugly at times, no doubt. Knox's willingness to try to work through the holes in his game, at times succeeding, leads me to believe that while he is by no means a finished product. Seen enough to say that he has the makings of a starter. While Frank has taken a much more timid approach to his development. Hornacek was right, Frank needed to play as much pickup BBall as he could last summer. Sought out more familiar, if not safer surroundings. Frank has been playing it safe since he was drafted, while Knox (with Fizdale's approval) has been more aggressive, taking more chances. Defense is important of course, but its no substitute for offense in today's NBA. |
knicks1248
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3/21/2019 3:36 PM LAST EDITED: 3/21/2019 3:37 PM
martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. ok I see what your saying. That's definitely an Interesting observation, and quite baffling. I honestly think Mitch will have a better career. the way they let knox shoot at will is not good for his development, to me he's just developing bad habits..he looks for the first available shot instead of the best shot Then when you put other players around him Like Trier, THJ, DSJ, Mudiay,burke, thats too many ISO players, so he start to thinking that it's cool to play that way. ES
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Nalod
Posts: 68656 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
3/21/2019 3:58 PM
knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. Today word is bought to you by the letter "C". |
arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
3/21/2019 6:42 PM LAST EDITED: 3/21/2019 6:42 PM
Nalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:knicks1248 wrote:martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. Knox is Melo-clone player. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33785 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
3/22/2019 7:14 AM
martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Not surprised when rookies have trouble draining jumpers, like Frank and Dotson. They've played for big crowds before, but not like the ones they saw as rookies. Not to mention playing in the Garden can be intimidating. Takes time for some players to tune out the crowd. I'm trying to tell him to stand up for what he believes in. I think Knox likely ends up better but he he has had a ****ty ****ing year Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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