Nalod wrote:Nice year over year development by this kid and our staff.
Mudiay also.
If the Knicks missed on Frank, we got Dotson, Mitch and trier as back filling value.
Whats different in the current scenario? Knicks in two years giving lots of young guys time on the court.
Opportunity. Some will thrived, some did not.
crazy as it sounds but Mario from the start of the season to the end has made progress on off the ball play.
Not sure I want to pay him but if his free agent value goes up and he leaves its a good look for the knicks.
Games are bloody awful to watch. The Toronto game was abysmal. Laker game not so.
Trier and Dotson are good values for on court or trade. Frank puts up some good play we can add him.
Its going to be an interesting summer.

For me, Mario has had a good game or 2 this whole season.

Dotson has been in and out of the rotation since becoming a Knick. Im surprised he has been able to put together so many good games in spite of 2 coaches and many different teammates.

As for Frank, I never got the feeling that he understood the need for a sense of urgency. Believe it played a big part in how things turned out for him in NY.

The good news is that NY has another French import...... The French Taco!!! Read an article about them. If you look at one, might have a Seinfeld reaction. "Whats the deal with French Tacos? Tortillas arent French, and it isnt a Taco!" Any French Knicks fans have one of these?

Opened one in Brooklyn about a year ago.

http://brooklyn.news12.com/story/36771703/fuhgeddaboudit-food-otacos-brooklyn

smackeddog wrote:I like him, and I like his cheap contract even more- his and Mitch's contracts are crucial this offseason as they help fill out the roster if we max out 2 players.

I like dot too, he’s pretty streaky but he’s got all the tools. He reminds me of Allen Houston before he came to the Knicks, and really took his game to the next level. I think dot has that ability esp with better players around him.

Having guys like Durant and kyrie on the floor will make the game so easy for Dotson. His open shot selection will sky rocket. With two max contracts our team instantly becomes a contender in the east.my guess is dot really comes into his own next year.

D Jordan, Mitch,kornet
Durant,vonleh,ellenson
Number1,Knox, 2nd round pick
Dotson,trier,Frank
Kyrie,DSJR, Allen

Wow

martin wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I like him, and I like his cheap contract even more- his and Mitch's contracts are crucial this offseason as they help fill out the roster if we max out 2 players.

I like dot too, he’s pretty streaky but he’s got all the tools. He reminds me of Allen Houston before he came to the Knicks, and really took his game to the next level. I think dot has that ability esp with better players around him.

Having guys like Durant and kyrie on the floor will make the game so easy for Dotson. His open shot selection will sky rocket. With two max contracts our team instantly becomes a contender in the east.my guess is dot really comes into his own next year.

D Jordan, Mitch,kornet
Durant,vonleh,ellenson
Number1,Knox, 2nd round pick
Dotson,trier,Frank
Kyrie,DSJR, Allen

Wow

Would be hard pressed to sign DJordan to a contract with Durant/Kyrie. Realistically, in the very least, you would need to trade 2 of 3 of DSJr, Frank, Trier.

True, and man I’ve been super impressed with d Jordan we are basically running our offense through him... he’d be a real weapon and great mentor for this team long term.

I’d hate to see him go.

I could see him taking less to stay if Durant and kyrie come, but I’m not holding my breath. D jordan could still get a big pay day and rightfully so, he’s still a top center in this league.

The only disappointing aspect for me is that I thought he’d be more of an force on defense.

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Nice year over year development by this kid and our staff.
Mudiay also.
If the Knicks missed on Frank, we got Dotson, Mitch and trier as back filling value.
Whats different in the current scenario? Knicks in two years giving lots of young guys time on the court.
Opportunity. Some will thrived, some did not.
crazy as it sounds but Mario from the start of the season to the end has made progress on off the ball play.
Not sure I want to pay him but if his free agent value goes up and he leaves its a good look for the knicks.
Games are bloody awful to watch. The Toronto game was abysmal. Laker game not so.
Trier and Dotson are good values for on court or trade. Frank puts up some good play we can add him.
Its going to be an interesting summer.

For me, Mario has had a good game or 2 this whole season.

Off the ball progress is hard to quantify. If you block Lebrons shot at the buzzer, that's pretty obvious. Im just seeing less bone head blank defense staring in to space.
I said less, not eliminated!

Mario would look awesome if we had KD & some other big name.

But, not if he is looking to get paid $8m, because he hasn't been that good - I like him but the best I can say is he's been decent to below average with very few flashes of better than blah.

To me, there is value in continuity - keeping Mario, Mudiay and adding a top 3 pick and KD would be a great off season and give me something to look forward to next season.

martin wrote:I was disappointed in Dotson last year, just felt like he missed way too much for someone who was supposed to be a shooter, like when he was COMPLETELY wide open and missed, and was just all out of sorts on the court.

Seems to have made progress, and as a starter on a very bad team. Still can't believe how bad his off ball defense is, too many lapses, and I still can't figure out why he misses some wide open shots, feel like he should be automatic. Don't know how much his ball handling will improve but he may be a solid guy off the bench. Year 3 will be huge for him.

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I like him and think he's a nice piece in between someone like Irving and KD. Ideal 3&D SG as a role player alongside stars. I agree about his off-ball defense though. He could have Danny Green type upside though.

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Nice year over year development by this kid and our staff.
Mudiay also.
If the Knicks missed on Frank, we got Dotson, Mitch and trier as back filling value.
Whats different in the current scenario? Knicks in two years giving lots of young guys time on the court.
Opportunity. Some will thrived, some did not.
crazy as it sounds but Mario from the start of the season to the end has made progress on off the ball play.
Not sure I want to pay him but if his free agent value goes up and he leaves its a good look for the knicks.
Games are bloody awful to watch. The Toronto game was abysmal. Laker game not so.
Trier and Dotson are good values for on court or trade. Frank puts up some good play we can add him.
Its going to be an interesting summer.

For me, Mario has had a good game or 2 this whole season.

Off the ball progress is hard to quantify. If you block Lebrons shot at the buzzer, that's pretty obvious. Im just seeing less bone head blank defense staring in to space.
I said less, not eliminated!

Mario would look awesome if we had KD & some other big name.

But, not if he is looking to get paid $8m, because he hasn't been that good - I like him but the best I can say is he's been decent to below average with very few flashes of better than blah.

To me, there is value in continuity - keeping Mario, Mudiay and adding a top 3 pick and KD would be a great off season and give me something to look forward to next season.

what do you like about Mario? I can't find 1 thing about him that he does well or points to doing well.

That end-year run must have been pretty good last season for him to be getting looks at $6+M per last summer.

Can't shoot or score consistently, defense looks awful.

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Nice year over year development by this kid and our staff.
Mudiay also.
If the Knicks missed on Frank, we got Dotson, Mitch and trier as back filling value.
Whats different in the current scenario? Knicks in two years giving lots of young guys time on the court.
Opportunity. Some will thrived, some did not.
crazy as it sounds but Mario from the start of the season to the end has made progress on off the ball play.
Not sure I want to pay him but if his free agent value goes up and he leaves its a good look for the knicks.
Games are bloody awful to watch. The Toronto game was abysmal. Laker game not so.
Trier and Dotson are good values for on court or trade. Frank puts up some good play we can add him.
Its going to be an interesting summer.

For me, Mario has had a good game or 2 this whole season.

Off the ball progress is hard to quantify. If you block Lebrons shot at the buzzer, that's pretty obvious. Im just seeing less bone head blank defense staring in to space.
I said less, not eliminated!

Mario would look awesome if we had KD & some other big name.

But, not if he is looking to get paid $8m, because he hasn't been that good - I like him but the best I can say is he's been decent to below average with very few flashes of better than blah.

To me, there is value in continuity - keeping Mario, Mudiay and adding a top 3 pick and KD would be a great off season and give me something to look forward to next season.

what do you like about Mario? I can't find 1 thing about him that he does well or points to doing well.

That end-year run must have been pretty good last season for him to be getting looks at $6+M per last summer.

Can't shoot or score consistently, defense looks awful.

I'd bring Mario back on a vet's minimum for this play alone. Does he suck? Yeah, no doubt. But the man is responsible for two of the biggest highlight plays of this season. That's enough for an end of the bench role in my honest opinion.

I don't think he sucks, he definitely has talent, I just think he needs to play around High IQ players, who play winning basketball.

Agreed