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Nalod
Posts: 68631 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
2/24/2019 12:51 PM
Triple also played pro football and the NBA?
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33785 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
2/24/2019 4:21 PM
VCoug wrote:TripleThreat wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:TripleThreat wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I can't belive anyone would say no to Zion... this is the single most absurd draft stance I've heard since Briggs said Beasley over Rose. You people cannot be serious. I know it's a 'flawed' statistic, but Zion has a 42.3 PER and had the most beautiful block i have ever seen in my life. I am so glad that anti-Zion contingent isn't in charge of our draft. +1 Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
2/25/2019 6:25 AM
I heard somewhere that Ainge’s son played on the same AAU team as Fultz and that this had essentially allowed Ainge to scout Fuktz when other nba personnel were not allowed to scout. E knew Fultz’s game very well and was always going to take Tatum.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
2/25/2019 11:19 AM
misterearl wrote:RJ Barrett had 30 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds and shot 70 per cent from the floor. Yeah, but apparently that don't mean sheehit because he's playing in college. Oh wait, Barrett's not a fat ****ing landwhale, is he? When is Fiz finally going to start Ron Baker? |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27186 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/25/2019 4:15 PM LAST EDITED: 2/25/2019 6:56 PM
TripleThreat wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I heard somewhere that Ainge’s son played on the same AAU team as Fultz and that this had essentially allowed Ainge to scout Fuktz when other nba personnel were not allowed to scout. E knew Fultz’s game very well and was always going to take Tatum. Go Fuck yourself! Triple using his 300 weight problem in high school to tranfer concerns onto Zion. LMAO Fact is, not ONE front office guy will pass on Zion. (Does not include Knicks of course, we know the history) But ok, keep giving all your Fultz examples yet casually leave out the fact that there has been NO ONE with this kind of physical frame and athletic ability in the history of the draft. Oh, and I am sure the "Front office guys" like you are ignoring the performance at the college level as well. But yeah, lets compare him to every other skinny hype coming out of college at 19, that Triple can think of. Fact is, Zion is not the type of player Front Offices are looking to get value out of and pass on. Said on another post, this is no Trae Young, Luca Doncic, Barrett, etc etc. This kid is a physical freak with an endless motor. Question. Do you really think some Prez/GM is going to take the chance at being the one that passed on a guy that can possibly be the next LBJ? Keep in mind they have just a little more to lose than being wrong, yet again, on the UK forum. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 37499 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
2/25/2019 4:50 PM LAST EDITED: 2/25/2019 4:52 PM
jrodmc wrote:misterearl wrote:RJ Barrett had 30 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds and shot 70 per cent from the floor. Well, Barrett is a sub 70% shooter from free throw line and 33% shooter from 3 for the season. The questions I have about Barrett aren't about shot creation. I expect him to get better at that. He's not really efficient on the college level. Will that improve in the NBA? Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
2/25/2019 4:58 PM
TripleThreat wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I heard somewhere that Ainge’s son played on the same AAU team as Fultz and that this had essentially allowed Ainge to scout Fuktz when other nba personnel were not allowed to scout. E knew Fultz’s game very well and was always going to take Tatum. Stop, for just a second, take a breath, and PLEASE TELL ME WHERE OUR STARTING FRONT PG IS PLAYING NOW??? Just stop the ****ing "I know how real NBA front offices work" because you're posting on a FUCKING KNICKS SPORTS BOARD LIKE THE REST OF US IDIOT FANS ARE DOING. "TripleThreat -- What needs to happen now is we need to start Ron Baker at PG" <-- Why aren't competent front offices all over the league jumping all over this brilliant piece of dispassionate player/roster evaluation? Do you know why? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A PIECE OF SHIT, OR A FUCKING ASSHOLE, YOU'RE JUST AN ASSHOLE FULL OF SHIT. Like most of the rest of us. Except maybe BRIGGS. You played in the NBA. You played in the NFL. You have doctorates in ****less topics like "core resource management principles" versus "current market forces". We are talking about a 6'7" (and don't forget, Oh wizard of the way all things competent actually are, you've given us dissertation-length posts on how SMALL THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT). He scores. He plays both sides of the ball, and he manages to make even ballhogs better. He's not just another iso-brained bucket machine. And the mother can jump right out of the gym AND NOW PIVOTS HIMSELF OUT OF HIS FUCKING SHOES. Is he going to take whatever team gets him to chipland in his rookie year? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened in this league. They draft people out of college, mostly. Division 1 basketball. I'm guessing we can't read about how you managed to kick everyone's ass in the NCAA when you were there, but maybe you can share that in your next missive. Try and show your true diversified genius and work in some hockey references. |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27186 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
2/27/2019 7:54 AM LAST EDITED: 2/27/2019 7:58 AM
TripleThreat wrote:jrodmc wrote:We are talking about a 6'7" (and don't forget, Oh wizard of the way all things competent actually are, you've given us dissertation-length posts on how SMALL THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT). He scores. He plays both sides of the ball, and he manages to make even ballhogs better. He's not just another iso-brained bucket machine. And the mother can jump right out of the gym AND NOW PIVOTS HIMSELF OUT OF HIS FUCKING SHOES. Is he going to take whatever team gets him to chipland in his rookie year? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened in this league. Yeah JROD! How are you not seeing the obvious? Why are you not posting 500 word dissertations that say absolutely nothing? I mean look at Triple, he posts this long wordy masterpiece that shows, peasants like us, the real **** no one else knows. I feel like I was just a part of a real behind the scenes NBA meeting. Who would have guessed (cue dramatic music) that front offices have questions about draft picks, including Zion. Genious. He is right, you will never have this type of insight on how the NBA actually operates. You can only hope to have that type of thinking, some day where you stop focusing on stupid things like how Zion is 275, running over people in college and has a 40 plus vertical. I honestly can't wait for his next "behind the scenes" informational novel. Serious question, which has more pages and is more full of B.S? Book of Mormon or Triples last 20 posts? (We know Triples are easily over 531 pages) Fyi. Curious that a 300lb guy on the computer describes your anger as delicious. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
2/27/2019 3:10 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:TripleThreat wrote:jrodmc wrote:We are talking about a 6'7" (and don't forget, Oh wizard of the way all things competent actually are, you've given us dissertation-length posts on how SMALL THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT). He scores. He plays both sides of the ball, and he manages to make even ballhogs better. He's not just another iso-brained bucket machine. And the mother can jump right out of the gym AND NOW PIVOTS HIMSELF OUT OF HIS FUCKING SHOES. Is he going to take whatever team gets him to chipland in his rookie year? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened in this league. Can he spin the ball on his fingertips? Can he compensate for playing at higher altitudes? Can he fit into an NBA jersey? Can he sport different hair styles? Can he handle hotel food? [Wait, don't answer that one] TripleThreat wrote:Your anger is delicious. Okay, to quote someone who lives in DisneyWorld like you do Triple... I'm officially freaked out now... Wow. I'm picturing him in a cell, with the restraints on... |
jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
2/27/2019 3:36 PM
TripleThreat wrote:jrodmc wrote:We are talking about a 6'7" (and don't forget, Oh wizard of the way all things competent actually are, you've given us dissertation-length posts on how SMALL THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT). He scores. He plays both sides of the ball, and he manages to make even ballhogs better. He's not just another iso-brained bucket machine. And the mother can jump right out of the gym AND NOW PIVOTS HIMSELF OUT OF HIS FUCKING SHOES. Is he going to take whatever team gets him to chipland in his rookie year? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened in this league. Curious that someone as erudite and professionally adept as you, Triple, cannot answer or even attempt to address a simple question. Ron Baker. Starting at PG. Triple, seriously, if you would just cut the self-aggrandizing BS and just post your thoughts, it would actually be more educational to sots like me who lack your incredible talent at constantly employing never ending, run-on sentences. Or maybe it would not. Stand alone in your contrarian ignorance, while you valiantly wait for Ron Baker to vindicate your incredible grasp of resource management. I applaud you. I'm actually starting to think you're just an algorithm martin and Andrew are using to keep site traffic up during this pathetic waste of a season. |
VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
2/27/2019 6:49 PM
TripleThreat wrote:jrodmc wrote:We are talking about a 6'7" (and don't forget, Oh wizard of the way all things competent actually are, you've given us dissertation-length posts on how SMALL THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT). He scores. He plays both sides of the ball, and he manages to make even ballhogs better. He's not just another iso-brained bucket machine. And the mother can jump right out of the gym AND NOW PIVOTS HIMSELF OUT OF HIS FUCKING SHOES. Is he going to take whatever team gets him to chipland in his rookie year? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened in this league. Lol, half these questions are relevant to anyone coming to the NBA! Here's a question. Who's your preferred player in the draft? Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
2/27/2019 10:54 PM LAST EDITED: 2/27/2019 10:55 PM
TripleThreat wrote:VCoug wrote:TripleThreat wrote:jrodmc wrote:We are talking about a 6'7" (and don't forget, Oh wizard of the way all things competent actually are, you've given us dissertation-length posts on how SMALL THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT). He scores. He plays both sides of the ball, and he manages to make even ballhogs better. He's not just another iso-brained bucket machine. And the mother can jump right out of the gym AND NOW PIVOTS HIMSELF OUT OF HIS FUCKING SHOES. Is he going to take whatever team gets him to chipland in his rookie year? Maybe not, but stranger things have happened in this league. These: Can he develop his right hand? Can Zion run an NBA grade offense consistently? How will Zion adjust/counteradjust to the full NBA regular season grind compared to his college slate of games? How will Zion react to playing against a higher grade of competition in the NBA? How will Zion adjust/counter adjust when, like most rookies, he won't get many or any calls in his favor by the refs? are relevant to every single players who has ever entered the NBA draft. But I'll go ahead and try to answer them. 1. Can Zion defend the rim? I think he's going to be a very good to great help defender but I don't expect him to be a rim defender in the vein of Gobert or Mitch. Putting up 2.2 steals and 1.8 blocks/game is really damned impressive and, from what I can tell, has only been done by one other freshman in history, Nerles Noel. 2. Can Zion play the wing? This is an odd question considering the first one you asked. Why would a wing need to defend the rim? I think he can on occasion but I'm expecting him to play mostly the 4 and the 5 in small-ball lineups. 3. What position will he play? Mostly the 4 and 5 in small-ball lineups. Not that it really matters, we're seeing more and more of positionless basketball in the NBA. What position does Giannis play? Or Lebron? Or Ben Simmons? 4. What will he look like as an undersized pivot that lacks the length to compensate? Didn't you just ask if he was playing the wing? Why is he now an undersized pivot? Let me answer your question with a question of my own. If Zion is going to mostly play the 4, how many 4s in the league would be able to take advantage of his size? 5. Can he fix his shot mechanics? How will he fix them? Hopefully since a consistent outside shot will only make him more dangerous on the court. He'd fix it by getting a shooting coach and practicing. 6. Can he develop his right hand? Maybe? How many players can go both right and left? Isn't the fact that he's a lefty a bonus since opposing players aren't used to that? 7. Can Zion run an NBA grade offense consistently? Wait, wasn't he just a pivot? Is he a PG now or is he Jokic? His playmaking/passing compares very favorably to other playmaking bigs in college. His AST% is just a tick below Blake Griffin's at Oklahoma, 16.7 and 16.3 in Blake's two years 16.5 for Zion this year. AST% isn't available for Webber but he put up 2.8 and 3.1 assists/40min compared to Zion's 3.1/40min. 8. How will Zion adjust/counteradjust to the full NBA regular season grind compared to his college slate of games? I have no idea. How will any rookie do this? 9. How will Zion react to playing against a higher grade of competition in the NBA? I think he'll be able to compensate. By all accounts he's an incredibly hard worker. How will any rookie react? 10. How will Zion adjust/counter adjust when, like most rookies, he won't get many or any calls in his favor by the refs? No idea. How will any rookie adjust? 11. He pivots out of his shoes and injured his knee. How will that impact how teams look at him now? Who cares how other teams look at him? I only care about how we look at him. And it's not like he was doing anything crazy when his shoes broke. It was just a freak accident due to crappy sneaker construction. Now some questions for you. You didn't really answer my question about who your preferred pick is but you implied it was RJ Barrett. 1. Is Barrett going to be a good shooter in the pros? He's only shooting 32% on 3s and 68% on FTs (compared to 29% and 66% for Zion). 2. FT shooting is very predictive for shooting ability in general. How effective will Barrett be in the pros if he's a mediocre to bad shooter? 3. Can RJ become a playmaker? He's playing next to two of the top HS recruits in the country and one of the most dominant offensive players in recent NCAA history. Despite this, he takes 50% more shots than anyone else on the team. Does he know the difference between a good shot and a bad shot? 4. What position is RJ going to defend? How good is his man and help defense? 5. If we do draft RJ but then sign one or more of the max free agents available, how will he adjust to having to play off the ball? He currently has a 32.1 USG% which is higher than any Kyrie season and all but 1 Durant season. In fact, the last Knick to have a USG% that high was Melo 4 years ago. 7. Can he develop his 8. Can Rj run an NBA grade offense consistently? 9. How will RJ adjust/counteradjust to the full NBA regular season grind compared to his college slate of games? 10. How will RJ react to playing against a higher grade of competition in the NBA? 11. How will RJ adjust/counter adjust when, like most rookies, he won't get many or any calls in his favor by the refs? Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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